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For all Obama and Hillary supporters, don't complain that Bernie is running (Original Post) AZ Progressive Apr 2015 OP
Oh boy treestar Apr 2015 #1
really who really cares except for 10 or 12 people? beachbum bob Apr 2015 #2
this should lead to many productive discussions foo_bar Apr 2015 #3
Sigh, More FUD Strawmen... this is boring... 1o3i4n more months of this too... damn uponit7771 Apr 2015 #4
IBTL Mika Apr 2015 #5
That's hardly Bernie's attitude. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #6
I'm sure Bernie felt compelled to run given how much the Democratic Party has sold out AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #9
He gave a nice talk in Richmond, CA last year. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #12
Also, TPP is a focus of Bernie AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #14
I'm aware of Bernie's position on that. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #19
Bernie respects the President.. too freaking bad for those who don't. and, I'm glad he's running.. Cha Apr 2015 #24
I adore all three of the people you named in your headline. Lyric Apr 2015 #7
Show a link where that happened. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #8
Oh look another shit stirring OP coming from a Sanders supporter... giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #10
Most of us are Bernie supporters. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #20
I NEED RECS TO SATISFY MY EGO! JaneyVee Apr 2015 #23
I don't see this crap making the greatest page. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #25
maybe if they had told us to "shut the fuck up" it would. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #65
pretty much JI7 Apr 2015 #33
And the point is what? There have been countless negative, shitty, OPs giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #32
No, the nasty childish stuff helps no one's cause geek tragedy Apr 2015 #39
My point exactly... giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #41
Yeah, like Bernie doesn't need the President's supporters if he wants to win.. not just on DU. Cha Apr 2015 #40
Oh yeah, if you read some of the posts around here giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #50
Exactly, I'm so sick of them and their pumping up their egos at Bernie's expense. The divisive shit Cha Apr 2015 #63
You got it.. the OP's "ego". Cha Apr 2015 #37
You mean someone who's been appalled at how much of a sellout Obama has become AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #47
You're adorable. can I pinch your cheeks? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #52
And more whining about the DU from you! nt Logical Apr 2015 #62
Ha that it not whining but merely pointing out the obvious. giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #66
I like Obama. I like Hillary. I like Bernie. Terra Alta Apr 2015 #11
Not with a smug misinformation spreader like the OP. Cha Apr 2015 #18
You mean like the Democrat that waves the white flag to the Republicans? AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #48
Unrec cyberswede Apr 2015 #13
Bullshit.. that's not what Bernie is saying. I'm glad he's running. Cha Apr 2015 #15
Yawn. Enjoy your superiority dance, oh pure one. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #16
The Democratic Party of the mid 20th century wouldn't have let the big corporations ruin this country AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #49
Yawn. Your nostalgia for the party of Jim Crow is tedious. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #59
Who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law? AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #61
Classy. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #17
We can refuse to start a DNC Clown Car, I think the GOP has that one wrapped up. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #21
WAHHHH! The persecution industrial complex strikes again! JaneyVee Apr 2015 #22
too many meta posts joshcryer Apr 2015 #26
you guys are sad and turning me off grouping with you. there has been incredible support of sanders seabeyond Apr 2015 #27
that is the problem isnt it? not enough attack so now some are trying to manufacture reasons for it seabeyond Apr 2015 #31
DU might require a new group ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #28
+1. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #38
That or Andy823 Apr 2015 #55
+1 treestar Apr 2015 #58
Lamest trumped up bullshit you hate/fear Bernie OP yet BeyondGeography Apr 2015 #29
Thank you for alerting us to an issue that doesn't exist...nt joeybee12 Apr 2015 #30
Ok, this is fucking strawman bullshit. onehandle Apr 2015 #34
Can't wait til he needs a few mil for a media buy. ucrdem Apr 2015 #35
Thanks for the directive. I hope ... 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #36
... spanone Apr 2015 #42
Do you actually support Bernie Sanders? KMOD Apr 2015 #43
looks like some are upset Bernie is running JI7 Apr 2015 #44
Actually, I am truly happy for you all. liberal N proud Apr 2015 #45
Oh FFS - nobody is complaining about Bernie running MaggieD Apr 2015 #46
I am laughing, not complaining. tritsofme Apr 2015 #51
BTW everyone, where is the transformative presidency that Obama promised? AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #53
you are hijacking your own OP. why? cause it was a fail? nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #60
I don't believe that is the motivation for Bernie to be running. FarPoint Apr 2015 #54
I'll wait while you show me any link to anyone complaining that Bernie is running.... brooklynite Apr 2015 #56
Jeeze. bravenak Apr 2015 #57
lol wat? Drunken Irishman Apr 2015 #64
This is helpful... BklnDem75 Apr 2015 #67

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
12. He gave a nice talk in Richmond, CA last year.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

He ended it with complimentary things to say about the election of President Obama and also hoped that the trajectory of more women in office would continue. http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/30/sanders-richmond-speech/

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
14. Also, TPP is a focus of Bernie
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:10 PM
Apr 2015

of which wouldn't be if Obama didn't decide to sellout and try to pass a trade agreement that gives up American sovereignty.

http://digital.vpr.net/post/bernie-sanders-announce-presidential-run

"His opposition to a proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal (T.P.P.) shows how he plans to frame this key issue of his campaign."

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-obama-sounds-like-bush-and-clinton-117717922196.html

"Sanders also accused President Barack Obama of having embraced the same “disastrous and unfair” free-trade agenda championed by George W. Bush and Bill Clinton."

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
19. I'm aware of Bernie's position on that.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:12 PM
Apr 2015

I'm sure he's counting on running as giving him a wider audience to make the case to the public that TPP must be opposed. It's a good strategy.

Cha

(297,532 posts)
24. Bernie respects the President.. too freaking bad for those who don't. and, I'm glad he's running..
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:19 PM
Apr 2015

and to win he'll need the President's supporters, too.

Your OP is divisive shit.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
8. Show a link where that happened.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:01 PM
Apr 2015

seriously, otherwise you are making presenting a false debate. It is your opinion that they are sellouts and as thus, you are creating flame bate.

I am glad that both Clinton and Sanders are in the primary.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. Most of us are Bernie supporters.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:12 PM
Apr 2015

The obnoxious purity prance on display in the OP is all about the poster's ego, not what Bernie Sanders.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
32. And the point is what? There have been countless negative, shitty, OPs
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:23 PM
Apr 2015

in the name of Bernie Sanders today & to serve what purpose? The nasty bullshit rhetoric around over these politicians is nuts & definitely not helping their cause. Not any of them, I laugh at the die hard HRC supporters that are flipping out bc Sanders is an Independent yet now we have this bullshit going on. It's dumb, childish & stupid.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
50. Oh yeah, if you read some of the posts around here
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:02 PM
Apr 2015

they think it's already a lock just based on their Facebook friends. If they only knew that trashing us younger minorities that are truly on the fence is not the way to go about it. 2016 will be the first yr my son is eligible to vote & rhetoric like this from either side isn't going to help. Especially as a young black/latino male.

Cha

(297,532 posts)
63. Exactly, I'm so sick of them and their pumping up their egos at Bernie's expense. The divisive shit
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:57 AM
Apr 2015

is not who Sen Sanders is but those on DU don't have a freaking clue.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
48. You mean like the Democrat that waves the white flag to the Republicans?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:58 PM
Apr 2015

Sometimes someone has to say the unpopular thing.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
49. The Democratic Party of the mid 20th century wouldn't have let the big corporations ruin this country
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:00 PM
Apr 2015

While Hillary and Obama are in bed with them...

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
61. Who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:07 PM
Apr 2015

Who desegregated the military?

Who first banned hiring discrimination on the basis of race, in the federal government and companies that contract with it?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. We can refuse to start a DNC Clown Car, I think the GOP has that one wrapped up.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:14 PM
Apr 2015

We need a primary, now that Bernie is announcing them we can have a primary. Hopefully Hillary will be able to pull Bernie further to the right.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. you guys are sad and turning me off grouping with you. there has been incredible support of sanders
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:21 PM
Apr 2015

and all i am hearing is people trying to work up a battle. one thread had a couple posters declaring it was right to be mean. mean works. gotta get mean

wtf... ever

sanders is well liked on du, and it shows the respect he has gotten stepping into this race.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
31. that is the problem isnt it? not enough attack so now some are trying to manufacture reasons for it
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:23 PM
Apr 2015

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
28. DU might require a new group ...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:21 PM
Apr 2015

The Strawman Creators Forum.

I would nominate you as a host - this kind of talent shouldn't go to waste.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
55. That or
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:13 PM
Apr 2015

The Shit Stirrers Board. A place where every shit stirrer can't compete for the most rec's, and may the best stirrer win!

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
34. Ok, this is fucking strawman bullshit.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:24 PM
Apr 2015

Are you guys meeting in a special room to post this crap every hour on the hour.

NOBODY IS COMPLAINING ABOUT BERNIE.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
36. Thanks for the directive. I hope ...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:25 PM
Apr 2015

your feelings aren't hurt when someone suggests that you take your command, fold it five ways, and shove it squarely up your ass.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
43. Do you actually support Bernie Sanders?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:33 PM
Apr 2015

It seems like you a trying to create a divide where none exists.

If you actually are a Bernie Sanders supporter, and at the moment I kind of doubt that, wouldn't it be more productive to post an OP on why you are supporting him?

JI7

(89,262 posts)
44. looks like some are upset Bernie is running
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:35 PM
Apr 2015

Takes away from their conspiracy shit about powerful evil forces in the party preventing anyone from running.

To actually campaign for a candidate is too boring.

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
45. Actually, I am truly happy for you all.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:43 PM
Apr 2015

For all the Hillary haters, now have someone in your column. I was afraid that if Hillary was the only candidate that some of the haters would short circuit or something.

So now the haters can no longer complain that Hillary is the only candidate in the race.


Hope that now you have a candidate, that should said candidate not succeed in obtaining the nomination, will you vote for Hillary?

We all have been asked the opposite today a couple of times.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
46. Oh FFS - nobody is complaining about Bernie running
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:47 PM
Apr 2015

I really hope we don't have to deal with this imaginary stuff for the next 18 months. It's starting to seem a bit deranged.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
53. BTW everyone, where is the transformative presidency that Obama promised?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015

“Washington is broken. My whole campaign has been premised from the start on the idea that we have to fundamentally change how Washington works.”

"we've been warned against offering the people of this nation false hope. But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope. For when we have faced down impossible odds; when we've been told we're not ready, or that we shouldn't try, or that we can't, generations of Americans have responded with a simple creed that sums up the spirit of a people: Yes we can."

"I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to. It belongs to you. It belongs to you.
I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington. It began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston. It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give $5 and $10 and $20 to the cause.
It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep.
It drew strength from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on doors of perfect strangers, and from the millions of Americans who volunteered and organized and proved that more than two centuries later a government of the people, by the people, and for the people has not perished from the Earth."

Nah, instead we got Bill Clinton 2.0 with more social progressivism.

FarPoint

(12,430 posts)
54. I don't believe that is the motivation for Bernie to be running.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015

If he does....then the Democratic Party will abandon him.

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
67. This is helpful...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:54 AM
Apr 2015

It's posts like these that makes me want to get behind your cause. Please tell me more...

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