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msongs

(67,459 posts)
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:42 PM May 2015

berniesanders.com has no content really...

data mining email addresses and a pitch for money. no issue information, bio, media contact. thought there might be some nice graphics to make a bernie shirt (like there was for Howard Dean). well they got the email address

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berniesanders.com has no content really... (Original Post) msongs May 2015 OP
Try his senate page Koinos May 2015 #1
okthks.was at a dem convention yesterday and wanted to make a shirt with official looking stuff msongs May 2015 #2
I find a lot of content on there... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #3
did you give money already then? those are NOT available after giving email address which leads to msongs May 2015 #5
yep Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #14
That's a good web strategy alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #17
Unnecessary. joshcryer May 2015 #21
I think they disabled it on purpose temporarily to reduce the traffic Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #22
It looks like the footer on the main page is broken. joshcryer May 2015 #15
On a hunch, I found some content there by adding "/issues" to the url. greyl May 2015 #4
There IS content...it's just not linked to the home page... brooklynite May 2015 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Bjorn Against May 2015 #7
It's likely an oversight. joshcryer May 2015 #16
But why should they expect people would contribute before acquainting themselves pnwmom May 2015 #24
I've never been to a political site that didn't spam that. joshcryer May 2015 #25
You can get into Hillary's site by giving an email address, and see content pnwmom May 2015 #28
You don't even need to give an email. joshcryer May 2015 #30
You can see her content, but there is no substance there. morningfog May 2015 #40
He has a Senate site also Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #27
What a hypocritical thing to say. morningfog May 2015 #39
I had this discussion with others in another thread. TM99 May 2015 #8
it doesn't work for me. This morning it was domain suspended and now it's a 403 error. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #9
It is up currently. TM99 May 2015 #10
Third time's a charm - now it's working lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #11
Glad you got in. TM99 May 2015 #12
For what it's worth they do have "coming 5.26.2015" on there. joshcryer May 2015 #18
True. TM99 May 2015 #23
Um, the home page says "Bernie Sanders for President | Coming 5.26.15 phleshdef May 2015 #13
Hopefully, they have the Bernie White House.gov site up on inauguration day alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #19
Heh, saw that before I saw your post. joshcryer May 2015 #20
It's like that on purpose. They know it's like that. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #26
Link? joshcryer May 2015 #29
It seems fine to me... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #31
Can you post the email? joshcryer May 2015 #32
No thanks. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #33
Please don't think that way. joshcryer May 2015 #34
'Fixing it would be a one line piece of code' Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #35
It's like ten pages. joshcryer May 2015 #36
It's not a matter of 'how many pages', it's a matter of how many people are hitting it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #37
Sure. joshcryer May 2015 #38
I know, right? MadrasT May 2015 #41

msongs

(67,459 posts)
2. okthks.was at a dem convention yesterday and wanted to make a shirt with official looking stuff
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:50 PM
May 2015

on it

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
3. I find a lot of content on there...
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:51 PM
May 2015

Bernie Sanders For President
https://berniesanders.com/
The official campaign website for the presidential campaign of United States Senator Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders on the Issues
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
The American people must make a fundamental decision. Do we continue the 40-year decline of our middle class and the growing gap between the very rich ...

Bernie Sanders - Legislative Record
https://berniesanders.com/record/
In 1990, Bernie became the first independent elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 40 years. He has caucused with the Democratic Party ever since.

Blog Archives - Bernie Sanders
https://berniesanders.com/blog/
Senator Bernie Sanders was on the road during the first week of the Senate spring recess. His message: that we need to end the obscene level of income and ...

Video Archives - Bernie Sanders
https://berniesanders.com/video/
Sen. Bernie Sanders stresses the need for equal pay in the workforce and taking on the billionaire class on MSNBC's Morning Joe. Watch video ...

Volunteer - Bernie Sanders
https://berniesanders.com/volunteer/
Thank you for your interest in volunteering for my campaign. Please use the form to let us know how you would like to help out. If you have questions, please feel ...

About Bernie Sanders
https://berniesanders.com/about/
About Bernie. Bernie Sanders was elected to the Senate in 2006 after 16 years serving Vermont as its sole Congressman in the House of Representatives.

Contribute to the Bernie Sanders Campaign
https://berniesanders.com/donate/
Make a financial contribution to the Bernie Sanders campaign.

Sign Up for the Bernie Sanders Campaign
https://berniesanders.com/get-updates/
Sign up to receive important email updates from the campaign.

msongs

(67,459 posts)
5. did you give money already then? those are NOT available after giving email address which leads to
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:25 AM
May 2015

the act blue money page. berniesanders.com -> fill in email/zip - >act blue money page. thats the end

I do not see all those extra pages nor will any other person going there as I did.

but thanks for the extra pages access

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
17. That's a good web strategy
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:05 AM
May 2015

Hide all the content pages, which are not linkable from the home page, but are possibly findable through Google.

You guys should do great!

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
15. It looks like the footer on the main page is broken.
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:02 AM
May 2015

So it's not showing those links. I'll send them a tweet.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
4. On a hunch, I found some content there by adding "/issues" to the url.
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:51 PM
May 2015

Take a look at https://berniesanders.com/issues/

edit: better yet, take a look at reply #3.

brooklynite

(94,776 posts)
6. There IS content...it's just not linked to the home page...
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:31 AM
May 2015

Try:

www.berniesanders.com/about
www.berniesanders.com/record
www.berniesanders.com/issues

That might be a suggestion that the Sanders campaign team isn't fully on the job, but I'll leave that for someone else to decide.

Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
16. It's likely an oversight.
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:05 AM
May 2015

They very likely want the contribute pop-up to be the primary feature one sees when they go there, but once you click off of it you should see the footer like on other sites.

All sites should have a sitemap, though.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
24. But why should they expect people would contribute before acquainting themselves
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:26 AM
May 2015

with his policies and bio? Not everyone is a Vermont resident or a DUer.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
25. I've never been to a political site that didn't spam that.
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:35 AM
May 2015

It's annoying as hell but you can go to any political website and get a donate / support button.

http://www.democrats.org/

http://elizabethwarren.com/

https://www.gop.com/

OK I found the Libertarian Party site, apparently they don't do it: http://www.lp.org/

So that's a first.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
28. You can get into Hillary's site by giving an email address, and see content
Mon May 4, 2015, 02:37 AM
May 2015

without having to donate first.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
30. You don't even need to give an email.
Mon May 4, 2015, 03:58 AM
May 2015

Just click "continue to hillaryclinton.com."

It's that way on most sites.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
27. He has a Senate site also
Mon May 4, 2015, 02:17 AM
May 2015

Alot of his bio and policies are on there. This would be right near the top in a normal web search, so people can learn everything about him.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/


This in addition to other news and info sources.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
39. What a hypocritical thing to say.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:21 AM
May 2015

Hillary has not one link anywhere on her site to issues or positions. Nothing.

I'd say Hillary's campaign team isn't up to the job.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
8. I had this discussion with others in another thread.
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:39 AM
May 2015

Turn of adblock, flashblock, and allow javascripting in your browser. Also make sure you browser is up-to-date.

All of those things are in fact there and visible but some are having browser issues, and they are unable to view them unless they go directly to the links given in post #3.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
9. it doesn't work for me. This morning it was domain suspended and now it's a 403 error. n/t
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:41 AM
May 2015

... although the google cached page does work.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
10. It is up currently.
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:47 AM
May 2015

I am actually going to write their webmaster because I have seen quite a few complaints now here at DU that links are not visible, the page is not loading, etc.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
11. Third time's a charm - now it's working
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:48 AM
May 2015

From the cached google page, I clicked donate, then backed my way up to the index page. Fixed!

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
12. Glad you got in.
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:55 AM
May 2015

I just emailed them to let them know of this issue that I have seen now crop up all day here at DU.

Hopefully it will be address so such work-arounds are not necessary.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
18. For what it's worth they do have "coming 5.26.2015" on there.
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:08 AM
May 2015

That may be when they roll out a better site overhaul.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
23. True.
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:21 AM
May 2015

But the issues thus far are common ones when a site has not been fully tested against multiple browsers. It should be fully functioning in whatever state it starts in for all who want to view it on any of the major desktop or mobile browsers.

That's what I emailed them about.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
13. Um, the home page says "Bernie Sanders for President | Coming 5.26.15
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:56 AM
May 2015

Today is the 4th, do the math. They are making it painfully obvious that the site is still undergoing work.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
31. It seems fine to me...
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:19 AM
May 2015

It accepts volunteers, donations, you can sign up for email updates.

That's what it's supposed to be right now. They have a launch date for new content sometime in May.

People who have links to older content that is no longer linked from the homepage may still visit those pages, but they are not accessible through the homepage right now. I emailed them and that's what they told me.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
33. No thanks.
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:32 AM
May 2015

My guess is they removed the footer links from the home page to reduce traffic because they were overwhelmed by an unexpected flood of interest when he first announced, so they had reduce the page requests.

At first I was trying to help the OP access content because it seemed like he was truly interested. But now I think most of the posts are about criticizing the website, or perceiving website flaws and using that to paint my candidate in a bad light. So I'm dropping out of the thread. Adios

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
34. Please don't think that way.
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:59 AM
May 2015

There are some in this thread who are using it as a talking point, but it's a significant website design issue, fixing it would be literally a one line piece of code.

I tweeted them but did not send an email because I didn't think it merited it. With your comments I don't feel like sending an email since they'll officially launch the website in a few weeks. Fixing the footer in the intrim should not hurt nor should a suggestion to do so be seen as criticism. Though apparently it is a "criticism" and "painting the candidate in a bad light."

It's not a big damn deal.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
35. 'Fixing it would be a one line piece of code'
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:51 AM
May 2015

unless, of course, as everyone keeps suggesting, it was deliberately turned off because the traffic is overwhelming the site. In which case fixing it simply takes you right back to the site acting like it is getting hit with a DOS attack because it's getting too many clicks, more than it can accommodate. They real problem may well be that they need a load-balanced server farm and they've been hosting on a single server.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
37. It's not a matter of 'how many pages', it's a matter of how many people are hitting it.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:09 AM
May 2015

If you're already getting too many people hitting the site for the load you can handle, you don't want them to stay on the site hitting more pages.

10 people hitting 1 page, 10 clicks minimum. 10 people hitting 10 pages, 100 clicks minimum. Now add a bunch of zeroes onto that to get what's probably happening. Of course, the worst of the problem is only going to happen in spurts, and right at site open is the worst time, since that's when everybody wants to see what's there. We had the same sort of problem every time the New York Film Festival opened using our website, because they insisted on telling the public exactly what time tickets went on sale rather than just a date, and everybody and their brother was trying to buy tickets for films at exactly the same minute.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
38. Sure.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:15 AM
May 2015

Assuming people take the interest to scroll down to the footer, click a footer link, and load the page. The dynamic email pages and donation pages are a lot harder to serve than static about pages and issues pages.

I think we're over analyzing this. I call it an innocent oversight. Everyone else calls it everything from intentional due to old pages, to preventing DOS. C'mon, Occams razor please? The "old pages" argument is actually the most logical, it's just unfortunate they use the same CSS and styling and footer on most of those pages. Just throw the footer on the main page. It's really not that big of a deal, because 90% of people aren't going to click footer links.

It's not that big of a deal especially because of the coming soon thing, the real site launches the 26th when the campaign truly kicks off.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
41. I know, right?
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

It is blatantly obvious they don't intend it to have content yet.

And they have announced when it will.

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