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TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:22 PM May 2015

I'm going to be homeless

Thank you to those people that donated for me. I don't have any way to identify anyone that did through paypal since paypal has no way to do that like gofundme does. In any case, I couldn't come anywhere close to the money I have to pay the court tomorrow, and with both me and my case worker begging again for my family to even loan me the money they won't budge.

I'm only going to have ten days starting tomorrow before I'm physically removed from here. I'm going to have to turn off my internet service by then so I won't be continually billed for something I can't use anyway. I'm going to also lose my beloved dog and I can't even find a decent place for him in time. I can't even bear thinking of that. My family won't even store my things for me, and I don't even see how it's possible for me to hold a job when living on the street anyway.

I never got a job because my family was hammering at me to go through these utterly useless social services and get a case worker. I love my case worker and she's frustrated as hell that they won't help me to avoid all this and for her to get me into another place with my dog and my things so I even have a chance at having a life. So I do everything they say and get a case worker and my family won't bloody listen to her, so now I don't even know what that was all for. Had I just ignored them and gotten a job like I wanted to do instead of wasting all my time on this social services rubbish I'd be able to pay the court and buy this time myself. I thought they wanted to help me, and all they did was screw me. My own family. And just now I got the most ugly email from my brother that makes me feel like a piece of dirt.

I've never been so low, and I know it's going to get a million times worse.

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I'm going to be homeless (Original Post) TorchTheWitch May 2015 OP
This will be hard, but don't give up. You are worth more than that. Agschmid May 2015 #1
Is there a Red Cross near you? shenmue May 2015 #2
I have no idea actually TorchTheWitch May 2015 #6
Try calling the phone operator shenmue May 2015 #8
I have a possible rental for you...with dog...in Philly. msanthrope May 2015 #3
TorchtheWitch, Sissyk May 2015 #12
Bless you for your kindness.... Hekate May 2015 #18
A misanthropic person I am. An asshole I try not to be. nt msanthrope May 2015 #20
Aw, I won't tell anybody else Hekate May 2015 #21
I don't know why but I didn't get a PM from you TorchTheWitch May 2015 #26
maybe your box is full ? JI7 May 2015 #35
does that happen? TorchTheWitch May 2015 #50
just ask msanthrope to resend , send her a pm yourself JI7 May 2015 #51
ok sending her a pm would be better TorchTheWitch May 2015 #53
Is Moshi a Shiba? There's a rescue group near by.... bettyellen May 2015 #98
Resent. nt msanthrope May 2015 #84
You can also check CraigsList for rooms for rent- some allow pets, just have to go through them snooper2 May 2015 #117
That is what I like about you. Aerows May 2015 #65
Crabby is a polite term for what I am. Thank you, though. ... nt. msanthrope May 2015 #85
Curious cwydro May 2015 #108
It's not me she needs to contact, although I did include my number. msanthrope May 2015 #109
don't give up! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #4
Bingo! missingthebigdog May 2015 #16
Yup. Agschmid May 2015 #27
So sorry, this must be scary for you. You probably have these contacts through your case worker Jefferson23 May 2015 #5
I don't live in Philly TorchTheWitch May 2015 #9
I misunderstood. If your county is full, and you're homeless, try and go where there are Jefferson23 May 2015 #11
my case worker is from this county also TorchTheWitch May 2015 #37
The up side of that is you apparently get personal attention from your social services case worker daredtowork May 2015 #63
*crosses fingers about msanthrope's PM* nt steve2470 May 2015 #7
I don't get it *nt TorchTheWitch May 2015 #23
Post #3 above...nt SidDithers May 2015 #24
In your original thread I linked to TWO Akita rescue groups in PA KittyWampus May 2015 #10
Very good info! They will help you keep Yoshi!!! Pls contact them right away!!! bettyellen May 2015 #15
this is great since you don't have to give up your pet JI7 May 2015 #48
TWW- Texasgal May 2015 #13
OH NO, Torch!!! I am heartsick about this!! Moosepoop May 2015 #14
I'm so sorry A Little Weird May 2015 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #19
The results are in for #19 post. I was the really diplomatic one. Katashi_itto May 2015 #22
How in the world does your family hammering at you SheilaT May 2015 #25
time TorchTheWitch May 2015 #28
So dealing with social services takes up all day every day SheilaT May 2015 #30
Yeah, she probably doesn't need your condescension right now. Offer help or keep your thoughts to Ed Suspicious May 2015 #31
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on with her. SheilaT May 2015 #34
I guess I don't know the specifics of this particular case. I was shocked at how pointed your post Ed Suspicious May 2015 #36
don't worry about TorchTheWitch May 2015 #41
You must mean something other than having pintobean May 2015 #101
T.T.W has a "history" of asking DUers for money Quantess May 2015 #146
Actually... pipi_k May 2015 #149
You should be ashamed of yourself mylye2222 May 2015 #39
She has started two threads already about her impending homelessness. SheilaT May 2015 #43
Very sad, and sadly true. Yet I remain genuinely touched by the offers of help from others. Hekate May 2015 #59
+1 nt Quackers May 2015 #95
+2 snooper2 May 2015 #96
The poster said nothing untrue. phil89 May 2015 #129
Jury results zappaman May 2015 #40
Lulz. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #44
Jinx! zappaman May 2015 #45
Obvious is obvious. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #46
Could I propose something before you jump to that conclusion? daredtowork May 2015 #68
Good comment +1 Jesus Malverde May 2015 #69
Thanks for considering that possibility :) daredtowork May 2015 #70
Living in SF you get a thick skin. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #71
This makes pipi_k May 2015 #91
If you would do that, I'd have to admire your incredible resilience. crim son May 2015 #115
Good post. cwydro May 2015 #122
Very insightful post. Unfortunately, SheilaT May 2015 #97
Consider this daredtowork May 2015 #142
One of the best posts yet. nt Hekate May 2015 #132
Thank you for the viewpoint of one who understands. Moosepoop May 2015 #140
Juror 5 ... sunnystarr May 2015 #135
Jury Results. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #42
What is wrong with you? Where is your empathy? akbacchus_BC May 2015 #62
You're skeptical because you've never gone through this kind of crap. Yes, it DOES take all day to underahedgerow May 2015 #76
You just rang so far a bell in me. mylye2222 May 2015 #77
I can understand this side of the equation. My daughter has been out of work for CTyankee May 2015 #94
Not Yoshi! OnyxCollie May 2015 #29
I haven't had any luck at all finding a temporary place for him TorchTheWitch May 2015 #49
Providing support for Akita owners: http://www.bigeastakitarescue.net/about.html bettyellen May 2015 #52
post 10 in this thread provides help for this JI7 May 2015 #55
I'm really sorry I son't know how to help you, but google the breed of yur dog and napi21 May 2015 #32
I have already posted direct links in two of TTW's threads for akita rescue in her area. KittyWampus May 2015 #80
Yup. cwydro May 2015 #82
How do you you know she didnt try? mylye2222 May 2015 #83
Good point, but seriously, are you on her ignore list? closeupready May 2015 #99
That's what I wondered too... pipi_k May 2015 #102
SheilaT can't be on her ignore list. pintobean May 2015 #106
So sorry. Look for a rescue place. roody May 2015 #33
Check on that PM... mylye2222 May 2015 #38
I'm sorry to read this post. Trillo May 2015 #47
I need to go to bed TorchTheWitch May 2015 #54
Get a rzst and then please keeps us updated. mylye2222 May 2015 #56
get some rest gwheezie May 2015 #57
I've been there and back (it was hell) but you can recover and start over. I had to give up my dog underahedgerow May 2015 #58
Very uplifting post. You have what it takes. I'm presuming life is No Vested Interest May 2015 #64
You're very kind. underahedgerow May 2015 #67
God bless you! sunnystarr May 2015 #137
I'm so sorry to hear this. TDale313 May 2015 #60
I am so sorry, I thought that the donations akbacchus_BC May 2015 #61
I don't know you that well as a newb. romanic May 2015 #66
To the good people of DU ThingsGottaChange May 2015 #72
Think A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #73
Keep it to yourself. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. The people on this underahedgerow May 2015 #74
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #78
Thing is, this is General Discussion. KittyWampus May 2015 #81
We all make bad decisions sometimes... zappaman May 2015 #121
I got pilloried for cwydro May 2015 #123
you seem to be saying that everyone is intelligent and can make their own decisions CreekDog May 2015 #86
I know, right? cwydro May 2015 #92
Another pointing and judging response. mylye2222 May 2015 #75
Wow. Just when you think you've seen everything, this one comes along. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #87
Judging is so easy ..... polly7 May 2015 #88
Staying in that home was a waste of money, to say the least. Quantess May 2015 #148
Same thing pipi_k May 2015 #153
Probably the most helpful post to the op. NCTraveler May 2015 #90
Seriously? Did I wander into a Republican board? CharlotteVale May 2015 #93
Helping vs enabling Bonx May 2015 #118
JURY: A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #119
YOU think about it daredtowork May 2015 #143
Are you a veteran? man4allcats May 2015 #79
nope, not a veteran TorchTheWitch May 2015 #116
Google campgrounds. cwydro May 2015 #120
You said you have ten days. NCTraveler May 2015 #89
Yes, and? TorchTheWitch May 2015 #110
Lots of links cwydro May 2015 #111
TTW.. Dont spare your energy with this. mylye2222 May 2015 #112
So that means phil89 May 2015 #130
Don't spare your energy with...... NCTraveler May 2015 #151
I've always enjoyed your contributions here on DU and closeupready May 2015 #100
I don't think I'm on your ignore list, so here are two resources for you closeupready May 2015 #103
It might be good advice to have her clear her ignore list so she can see all the advice snooper2 May 2015 #104
Except some who are being ignored are simply black holes, closeupready May 2015 #105
There have been times in my life where help sounded a lot like disapproval. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #107
they're temporary? TorchTheWitch May 2015 #113
You are very welcome, and again, I really hope you find a way closeupready May 2015 #114
You are running out of time! Contact all of them today please! bettyellen May 2015 #124
Just dont give up calling places for help Marrah_G May 2015 #188
Do you have to stay in Phili? Corgigal May 2015 #125
The generosity of people is astounding. A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #126
That is so kind of you. Boudica the Lyoness May 2015 #127
It's not the jump, it's the offer. A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #128
God, I've always wanted to live there in my old age! TorchTheWitch May 2015 #133
You do know Charleston has bars and needs bartenders right? riderinthestorm May 2015 #154
I know, right? cwydro May 2015 #158
rent free??? TorchTheWitch May 2015 #185
What a terrific thing to do. Marrah_G May 2015 #189
Glory Hallelujah! My friend in San Diego came through for me! TorchTheWitch May 2015 #131
Wohoo!!! Good news! mylye2222 May 2015 #134
A good Deus Ex Machina is always good to find seveneyes May 2015 #136
WOW! (nt) sunnystarr May 2015 #138
AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!! :-) Moosepoop May 2015 #139
I had forgotten about him, too! TorchTheWitch May 2015 #141
You got a job? B2G May 2015 #152
not yet TorchTheWitch May 2015 #171
Well good luck on the job. nt B2G May 2015 #173
So happy to hear this! Texasgal May 2015 #161
Glad to read this mariuma May 2015 #144
I agree ... sunnystarr May 2015 #145
This is like a continuing soap opera. cwydro May 2015 #155
Yep, they've been working on this conspiracy for a decade. JTFrog May 2015 #157
It's typical around here anymore. Texasgal May 2015 #167
She is the real deal. Texasgal May 2015 #162
What's odd is B2G May 2015 #163
There is, actually... pipi_k May 2015 #165
Some people don't like to Texasgal May 2015 #166
I guess it's possible she's not using her real name. nt B2G May 2015 #168
she is using her real name. Texasgal May 2015 #172
OK, thanks for the confirmation B2G May 2015 #174
I know someone who was scammed in this way too. cwydro May 2015 #176
Well then, you have to choice to Texasgal May 2015 #178
I'm not the only one in these threads with comments. cwydro May 2015 #179
Never said you couldn't Texasgal May 2015 #180
I was whining? cwydro May 2015 #182
I never use my real name online PasadenaTrudy May 2015 #177
You won't find my mother anywhere online, nor two of my brothers either. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #170
So then she can't possibly exist? Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #169
From Where I Sit RobinA May 2015 #175
These court records... pipi_k May 2015 #150
Yes, cwydro May 2015 #156
Facebook page is now setup! B2G May 2015 #160
wait, so what happened? foo_bar May 2015 #147
Jeez, forgot about that as well. TTW hasn't mentioned that at all in her latest update riderinthestorm May 2015 #159
it's a little complicated how the court counts the days TorchTheWitch May 2015 #181
Have you found a lawyer to help answer it? tammywammy May 2015 #184
not so far TorchTheWitch May 2015 #186
OK so we have money for uniform B2G May 2015 #190
Very relieved for you! closeupready May 2015 #164
thank you so much! TorchTheWitch May 2015 #193
Oh, such a beautiful area of PA, along the river. closeupready May 2015 #194
this is awesome good news! steve2470 May 2015 #195
I don't post here much Stillwater May 2015 #183
thank you so much! TorchTheWitch May 2015 #187
kick Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #191
K & R !!! WillyT May 2015 #192

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
6. I have no idea actually
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

How does one even find this out? Still, it does nothing to save my dog or my stuff. Everything I care about and worked all my life for. I can't even find a decent place for Yoshi even if I could cope with his leaving me.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
50. does that happen?
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:04 AM
May 2015

I got one from Omaha Steve, but I think I'm also missing a couple of others as well. I'll delete some stuff and see if that helps.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
98. Is Moshi a Shiba? There's a rescue group near by....
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:38 AM
May 2015

Will let you know how they respond to my request for temporary fostering. Good luck!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
65. That is what I like about you.
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:02 AM
May 2015

You don't fool around, you might get crabby, but you do step up to the plate.

You rock!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
109. It's not me she needs to contact, although I did include my number.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:56 PM
May 2015

I wish her the best, and hope she can help herself.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
4. don't give up!
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

OK?
You got the lesson, listen to yourself instead of your family. (helluva way to have to get it, but....)

Won't be easy, but just get through the next step, then another....

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
16. Bingo!
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:52 PM
May 2015

One step at a time. Try to focus on a way forward and don't get bogged down in your feelings about your family right now. You can process those later, from a safer place.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. So sorry, this must be scary for you. You probably have these contacts through your case worker
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

but just in case:


Covenant House
www.covenanthousepa.org

31 E Armat St
Philadelphia, PA
(215) 951-5411
Victory House of Lehigh Valley
www.victoryhouselv.org

314 Fillmore St
Bethlehem, PA
(610) 691-3373
Agape Family Shelter
www.lebanonrescuemission.org

139 S 9th St
Lebanon, PA
(717) 272-6573
Homeless Advocacy Project
www.homelessadvocacyproject.org

1429 WALNUT STREET, 15TH FLOOR
Philadelphia, PA
(215) 523-9595
Good Samaritan Shelter
www.goodsamshelter.org

141 High St
Phoenixville, PA
(610) 933-9305
CHS Homeless Assistance Programs
www.chscorp.org

1945 Fifth Ave
Pittsburgh, PA
(412) 246-1640
Next Step Center Inc
www.nextstepcenter.org

406 Stoystown Rd
Somerset, PA
(814) 444-8588

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
9. I don't live in Philly
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:07 PM
May 2015

I have to go to the place that my county has and it's full. I just don't have the strength for this anymore. I've been so beaten up by my family I just feel like a total piece of dirt they always wanted to scrape off their shoes anyway. I haven't even seen them in seven years, I never tell them anything about me and they're just so sure that they knew all along that I was just a fruitcake to stupid to hold down a job yet they also know that I've worked my whole life. Far longer than they did since they had the chance to go to school past high school and I never did. Yet it's a knife in my heart all the same.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. I misunderstood. If your county is full, and you're homeless, try and go where there are
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:16 PM
May 2015

openings? Your case worker could help maybe, and please look into msanthropes post.
She may have a possible place for you.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
37. my case worker is from this county also
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:39 AM
May 2015

What really sucks about this is that each county has it's own social services and you're just stuck working with the county social services that you have. It goes by where you're a resident. Had I not been stuck living in a wealthy county that never felt the need for much in the way of social services I'd be better off. For example, if I was a resident of Philly then I'd go through Philadelphia County's social services which are actually a whole lot better than my county. My county has next to nothing for shelter. One buidling that only houses 50 people in total at any given time, and there's a very long waiting list. Plus, other sorts of people get bumped ahead of me in line: people with young kids, pregnant women, alcoholics/drug addicts, people with AIDS and seniors, etc. My case worker already told me last week when she was here for hours that the shelter is not anywhere she wants me to go because of how bad it is. She should know, she has other clients in there all the time.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
63. The up side of that is you apparently get personal attention from your social services case worker
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:58 AM
May 2015

As I mentioned in my PM to you, that's unheard of in my area of California, where social services case workers have 900 clients and only process paperwork for a small handful of government programs. They won't even point you to local programs that could help you. You're much better off calling 211 if you need a list of resources.

Anyway, don't underestimate that one major bit of luck you had in getting a social worker who seems to care about you personally!!!

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
10. In your original thread I linked to TWO Akita rescue groups in PA
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:12 PM
May 2015

TWO.

And as for Yoshi here is the website for an Akita rescue group. They will help you find a temporary foster home for Yoshi until you have another place to live and job:

http://www.bigeastakitarescue.net/

http://akita.rescueshelter.com/Pennsylvania


I also suggested you find your nearest library and figure out how to get on the internet using their computer.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
48. this is great since you don't have to give up your pet
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:59 AM
May 2015

and will free you up to look around for different jobs and places to stay.

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
14. OH NO, Torch!!! I am heartsick about this!!
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:45 PM
May 2015

I was so hoping that something would pan out for you! I wish I had the means to help!! Please update me as you can!!

Response to TorchTheWitch (Original post)

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
22. The results are in for #19 post. I was the really diplomatic one.
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:16 PM
May 2015

On Mon May 4, 2015, 08:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

So you didn't try getting a job?
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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
25. How in the world does your family hammering at you
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:59 PM
May 2015

to go through utterly useless social services keep you from going out and applying for jobs on your own?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
30. So dealing with social services takes up all day every day
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:17 AM
May 2015

and totally precludes job hunting? And has for the year or so you've been out of work? Really? Why am I skeptical?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
31. Yeah, she probably doesn't need your condescension right now. Offer help or keep your thoughts to
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:25 AM
May 2015

yourself is my advice. I don't appreciate you dressing down someone in a tough place in front of god and everyone.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
34. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on with her.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:31 AM
May 2015

She's been crying here on DU for about three months now, never quite manages to accomplish any of the genuinely helpful suggestions that have been posted for her. She claims to have stayed for about ten years in substandard housing, blames her landlady on her losing her job, thinks it's okay if her dog attacks people who come on her property. I don't think that's condescension. I think that's trying to hold her accountable for her own choices.

Plus, in all this time never have made any effort to get a job? The last thing I believe she was doing was bartending. If she's a competent bartender why hasn't she gotten another such job? Oh, yeah, that's right. She also says that working nights at that job meant she couldn't have any friends. Well, most of my life I've worked an evening shift and I never had any trouble keeping friends.

Maybe that's also condescending, except that I'm stating my own particular experience.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
36. I guess I don't know the specifics of this particular case. I was shocked at how pointed your post
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:39 AM
May 2015

was, but I guess if you have a history with this poster, I'll admit that I should probably keep my nose out of it.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
101. You must mean something other than having
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:19 AM
May 2015

that person (no quotes) on ignore. If you were actually ignoring her, you wouldn't have been able to see any of the replies to her. You replied to a reply to her.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
146. T.T.W has a "history" of asking DUers for money
Wed May 6, 2015, 05:50 AM
May 2015

Twice this year, and it looks like she's building up to the third time.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
39. You should be ashamed of yourself
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:45 AM
May 2015

For showing such soulessness and insensibility.

Kind of post like this should not belong there.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
43. She has started two threads already about her impending homelessness.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:49 AM
May 2015

It's instructive to read through them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026221474

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026442802

The most interesting thing about these is how she rarely responds to actual useful advice, then disappears and a month later is back.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
59. Very sad, and sadly true. Yet I remain genuinely touched by the offers of help from others.
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:35 AM
May 2015

They at least are quite genuine, and I hope someday they will see results for their kindness.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
40. Jury results
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:48 AM
May 2015

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I'm just trying to figure out what's going on with her.
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daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
68. Could I propose something before you jump to that conclusion?
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:29 AM
May 2015

A lot of Torch's harassed experience and inability to get things done ring true to me from my own experience.

I'd like to suggest why she keeps dancing away when people get too pushy is not because she's trying to pull some sort of "fast one" but because she's afraid if someone comes in and starts laying down "tough love" they will demand that she make changes she is trying to avoid making (like giving up the dog) or they will start impinging on her autonomy in various ways. The woman who wrote the famous "why poor people make bad decisions" article buys cigarettes and smokes and seems to feel that's an important choice and "break" she needs to have. But if any outsider swooped in to "judge", those cigs would be the first thing taken away.

This is why elderly people are often afraid of their own children when they get to be a certain age (they might "get sent to a home&quot . A neighbor of mine was telling me about having to move a friend of theirs out of a place "she couldn't afford" which meant forcing her to "give up a lot of her books". Having heard that, I'm not about to trust her with my own housing problems! There are certain choices that involve home and identity that we don't want to make unless absolutely, absolutely forced to do it.

If this is the reason, Torch the Witch did lose vital credibility through avoidance. (And before anyone piles on me, I'm saying that because I'm concerned TtW couldn't raise as much GoFundMe money as she could have because her disappearances raised those questions. I've strongly suggested to her to bite the bullet and *request* a Third Party from DU to come visit her and vouch for her situation as a third party. Preferably an older member with some credibility.

I would really like to know if this plan is in process.

In the meantime, *please* don't make assumptions about how many crappy little things people in these sorts of situations have to get done each day. My organized looks like I'm being scheduled by the Helicopter Mom From Hell. Even if TtW was applying for jobs, do you think she'd be in any condition to appeal to an employer? If you don't want to help her - fine. But leave some benefit of the doubt that you may not be able to comprehend the scale of fragmentation imposed by situations of imminent homelessness, unemployment, and depression over lack of prospects.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
70. Thanks for considering that possibility :)
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:42 AM
May 2015

And my mind is open to the other ones, too.

I continue to encourage TtW to get a "credibility witness" (and possibly some outside help pulling her stuff together).

My own situation got so ridiculous I actually needed something like a "life coach" to help keep me on top of my calendar. Luckily I live in an area where that was among the resources available to me. Perhaps not so much in the suburbs of Philadelphia...

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
71. Living in SF you get a thick skin.
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:45 AM
May 2015

Your post was full of perspective and it's always best to think positive.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
91. This makes
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:18 AM
May 2015

so much sense it's ridiculous...


If this is the reason, Torch the Witch did lose vital credibility through avoidance. (And before anyone piles on me, I'm saying that because I'm concerned TtW couldn't raise as much GoFundMe money as she could have because her disappearances raised those questions. I've strongly suggested to her to bite the bullet and *request* a Third Party from DU to come visit her and vouch for her situation as a third party. Preferably an older member with some credibility.



and speaking from my own feelings, if I were in a similar situation, on the verge of homelessness, about to lose my pet, etc., and if people didn't believe me, I would JUMP at the chance to prove my case to a third party.

Come visit me. See my living situation. You wanna see all the court papers and documents? Here they are!


If TTW did that, then hell, I would donate, and probably so would a few others who have expressed skepticism.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
115. If you would do that, I'd have to admire your incredible resilience.
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:29 PM
May 2015

I don't know TTW but given my personal experience with bad luck mixed with clinical depression that I haven't always been able to adequately treat, I know that all it can take is a year or two of having crap thrown ceaselessly at you before you lose the will to get out of bed and face that crap head-on. And I'm proud: the last thing I'd do is post pictures of my horrible living conditions and my eviction notice in the hope that somebody will take pity on me, even though I'm asking for help. It isn't always logical, how people respond to tragedy and we all have our limits. Just my two cents'.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
97. Very insightful post. Unfortunately,
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:31 AM
May 2015

people lose patience rather quickly with someone who begs for help, is offered genuinely useful and helpful advice which is ignored. Then comes back later needing help for the exact same problems. And still won't act on that advice.

From this distance, meaning on DU, none of us can do very much to give her meaningful assistance.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
142. Consider this
Wed May 6, 2015, 03:00 AM
May 2015

It's possible she might be following up on advice she can use, but just not getting around to informing people of the results. Or she's discounting advice she can't use yet - and again, not getting around to informing people of the particular results. Part of this might be because she's overwhelmed: part of this may be because she's afraid of the response if she doesn't lock step with the supposed "friendly" advice. For instance, while it's good to have the places for the dog to go, perhaps she wasn't ready to let the dog go at the time the suggestions were made, and she was still desperately working on just not getting evicted.

Moving is about the most stressful thing there is: all TtW's resources are probably going into trying to stay where she's at. This may be unrealistic, which is why the vanishing acts occur: she doesn't want people telling her that, and it's very depressing and exhausting to think about. TtW may not be making perfectly "rational" decisions, but who among us does? There are a lot of human factors that go into each of our decisions. But when you are poor, and you've been asking other people for money, you're every move is suddenly under a lot of scrutiny. That magnifies the stress a hundred fold. It's paralyzing.

The two most unhelpful things you can do in this situation is insinuate they are running a scam (discouraging other people from helping) and nitpick them for not finding a job yet (increasing their sense of self-criticism, fatigue, depression - and exacerbating the situation that's preventing them from getting a job). If you are SURE they are running some sort of scam, regularly pretending to be out of rent and desperate every month on multiple Internet forums, then they should be outed. But if you just "suspect" them, it might be your own biases that are setting off your sniff test.

You are correct in that TtW needs more help that can be provided from the distance of DU - and I'm not at all confident that what she actually needs (complex case management that includes housing services, mental health services, employment services, perhaps something like "life coaching"...) is available where she lives. The biggest problem is that dealing with the sort of problems she has usually takes a lot longer than the timeline she's looking at for holding on to her apartment. I'm not sure what the endgame of that will be since it sounds like her chances of getting, much less holding onto a job, are nil - but it's cruel to snap her back for trying.

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
140. Thank you for the viewpoint of one who understands.
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:38 PM
May 2015

I've been through that mill, too -- and it's just like you describe.

I'm very late with this reply, now that the immediate crisis has been averted, but I would like to respond to your invitation for a Third Party to vouch for TTW's situation. I've been on DU for many years, I just don't post much (I hardly ever even sign in, I just read), so my post count is comparatively low and therefore I don't know how much "credibility" I have.

But I can tell you that I know TTW's real name, I have her address, I have her phone number, and we have had some very lengthy online and phone discussions about all this.

I have seen all the court summaries and documents involved, via the court's online access to its cases.

All of it -- the timelines, the dollar amounts, the varying names used by the landlady, the district court decision against TTW, the appeal, the case against the landlady by the city (for not being licensed to rent) and the disposition on that, the latest Complaint filed against TTW by the landlady, and even the initial property inspection report (which appeared as an attachment to the latest Complaint) -- ALL of it matched up and validated what TTW had been saying all along. I did not doubt her in the least, but many did, and I regret not jumping to her defense at the time. When not at work, I was very busy with researching avenues for her to try to get out of this mess, and spent my time on that rather on posting in the free-for-alls that these threads became.

So, take my credibility for whatever you think it's worth, but hopefully rest assured that all of this has been completely true and very harrowing for her to try to navigate almost on her own. There have been roadblocks that she hasn't even mentioned on here, but I think that you understand better than most how that goes.

Again, thank you for putting out there just how difficult it really is to just "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" when the system and our society is the way it is.

I hope someday that will change.







sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
135. Juror 5 ...
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:48 PM
May 2015

The time I took to point out the inconsistencies after one of the last posts by the op resulted in not being able to post for a while. I wasn't unkind - I just pointed out the obvious. You just can't state the obvious.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
42. Jury Results.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:48 AM
May 2015

On Mon May 4, 2015, 09:43 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I'm just trying to figure out what's going on with her.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6622645

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Totally mocking the OPs pain and condescending. Insensitive

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 4, 2015, 09:46 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Well, I think the OP is full of shit. I've stayed out of these threads of hers because if DUers want to be gullible, it's not my business. Glad to see someone is pointing out the inconsistencies of the OPs story.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This situation is fishy and the OP has garnered questions.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: All valid points.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
62. What is wrong with you? Where is your empathy?
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:48 AM
May 2015

Sheesh, in her time of need you grilling her like the police. Are you for real? Where is your humanity?

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
76. You're skeptical because you've never gone through this kind of crap. Yes, it DOES take all day to
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:35 AM
May 2015

manage and handle social services issues, it can take months even. Calling 20 numbers, being placed on death hold while you explain your situation over and over and over and over again to those 20 different people until you finally get through to the receptionist who can make the appointment 10 days from now, and then you get cut off after you've sat there for 45 minutes, and you have to start all over again. So during those 10 days you're struggling with paperwork and more appointments, running in circles with the courts and any other administrative hoops you have to jump through. Driving to and from, finding parking, paying for parking with your last pennies. Sitting and waiting so you don't miss the appointment, while your meter is ticking down, watching that digital light board slowly click one at a time towards number C78. You arrived on time, but now they're only at C24. While all the people in front of you are explaining THEIR story for the 20th time in the hopes that this person has the right answers and the possibility of offering some help.

Job hunting? OMFG, have YOU ever hunted for a job when you feel like the mucus on the mold UNDER the pile of poo at the bottom of the cess pitt? And of course to find that job you have to spend more time on the phone, more time waiting by your computer for a reply which usually never comes. You're just ignored because you're too old, you live too far away, you have too much experience, you have too little experience, you're not the bosses niece, you're not pretty enough. The pay is shit, there's a reason why there is a vacancy because the boss is an idiot or a perv or the place is going bankrupt... More time scouring the online ads over and over and over again, sending off resume after resume and perky little cover letter over and over and over again. Driving to the place to drop off a resume and the looks you get when they just say 'oh thanks yeah, that's already been filled'. They feel sorry for you, and you feel rejected. Again. Too little, too late. As usual.

So yeah, be skeptical, but if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. You don't KNOW what it's like and I hope that you never do.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
77. You just rang so far a bell in me.
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:39 AM
May 2015

I cant find job. I am not pretty. I have not a huge network of friends. ..

My God you made me tear up. Bless your heart and emphaty

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
94. I can understand this side of the equation. My daughter has been out of work for
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:42 AM
May 2015

3 years and has been near a breakdown on several occasions. I am helping her out as is my other kids. So my donating to TTW is impossible right now. My daughter is fostering a dog now and it is a comfort to her (and they are providing money for food and veterinary visits). The dog is a great comfort. Every week she sends out her resume anywhere there is the remotest chance of her getting the job. She tailors her resume for each one.

Now there appears to be a breakthru with a job. I am cautiously optimistic. But we'll wait and see. I don't know how much more she can take.

TTW's situation is far more severe but her mental fatigue is understandable...

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
29. Not Yoshi!
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:11 AM
May 2015

There's gotta be someone who can take care of Yoshi for a while. You can't lose your dog!

(Not that it helps, but right now I'm crying over you losing your dog.)

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
49. I haven't had any luck at all finding a temporary place for him
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:59 AM
May 2015

And I don't know how I'd even survive that. I could give him back to the breeder but they'd adopt him out to another permanent home. And I CAN'T lose him! He's my whole world, and every day I need him more. Just thinking about having to have to take him somewhere and walk away has me sobbing like mad. I just don't know a sole who could take him where I know he's be treated well temporarily. My one neighbor would love to have him temporarily but her brother that lives with her and her husband is the one that owns most of the property and he won't do it. He's a jerk, but he foots most of the bills since her and her husband are both on disability. There just isn't anyone else.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
32. I'm really sorry I son't know how to help you, but google the breed of yur dog and
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:26 AM
May 2015

the word rescue, and your location. If he's not a pure bred, just choose whatever breed is closest. There are rescue groups everywhere for every breed. Contact those that are near you. They will help. I'm a volunteer for a Bichon Rescue that has reps and foster homes all over the country. We pick up the dog, get them examined by a vet & caught up on any needed shots and fix any health problems they have, then find a foster home to keep them until they find a GOOD forever home. All rescue groups I'm aware of do the same. At least that will take one worry off your shoulders.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
80. I have already posted direct links in two of TTW's threads for akita rescue in her area.
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:10 AM
May 2015

When someone has a problem and you hand them a solution and they don't take it…...

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
83. How do you you know she didnt try?
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:39 AM
May 2015

I do think she has but unfortunely social system is "unable" to serve her. Look she is notvm toping the waiting list: a singke person, not a family, she obviously doesnt fit the prérogatives. ..

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
99. Good point, but seriously, are you on her ignore list?
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

She mentions SheilaT is on her ignore list (for whatever reason), and perhaps you are as well?

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
102. That's what I wondered too...
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:20 AM
May 2015

Maybe a number of people need to post that same info so she (TTW) actually sees it and can reply.


Those of us who are pet parents would probably feel a whole lot better knowing that poor Yoshi has a safe place to go until TTW gets her life together.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
106. SheilaT can't be on her ignore list.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:42 AM
May 2015

At least she couldn't have been when that was posted. The way ignore works on DU3, TTW wouldn't have been able to post that where she did if she was ignoring SheilaT.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
38. Check on that PM...
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:41 AM
May 2015

And maube try to go to another county.

Why is social service so unserving toxards you? Over here , when I was homeless in Parid they would not serve me well because I didnt " filled the social workers expectations" Means that I xas not using drugs nor alcohol, did not got pregnant etc.

I had even considered leaving the country...

Stay strong my friend.

I wish I could help....So much.

A billion hugs from France.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
47. I'm sorry to read this post.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:53 AM
May 2015

If you could only get some national MSM TV exposure, become a "celebrity" of sorts, particularly of the hate-based variety, then you'd probably have hundreds of thousands of dollars in your account.

Families can be very disappointing, particularly in the U.S., it's best to rely only on yourself. Just "divorce" them forever.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
54. I need to go to bed
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:15 AM
May 2015

Thanks for the kind words. I've done so much crying today that I have a whopper of a headache now and I'm so exhausted from it all.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
57. get some rest
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:30 AM
May 2015

Please let your dog go if the breeder will take him back. People are going to make the decision for you and it may wind up bad for your dog.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
58. I've been there and back (it was hell) but you can recover and start over. I had to give up my dog
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:32 AM
May 2015

sell everything I had, live in my car and in the back of my friend's restaurant, leave my KID (age 16) to stay with her friends and start all over, without a penny, from scratch.

I started over as a nanny, given a room to live in, in a nice home for a single dad looking after his kids and household. I sold most of my stuff, re-homed one of my 2 little dogs, one who went to a super nice family. I got to keep one of them, thankfully, but she was on the fence too until the dad said we could give it a try, and it was fine, thankfully. I got to stay in touch with the lovely people who adopted my other one, and they were the best doggie parents ever, so that was amazing.

Thankfully my daughter was looked after by parents of her friends, but they had no room for me, especially because of the damn dog. So I stayed in the workshop of my friend's restaurant where my stuff was stored while I was selling it. I slept on a mattress on the floor with no heat, and didn't want them to know... but he figured it out and discretely gave me the key to his business so I could sleep on the couch in there and take a shower. He never told anyone, bless his heart.

There is so much more to the story, but this isn't about me today. What I want to say is you can recover, you will have to make sacrifices you never imagined and your life will never be the same, but it's not the end of the world. I don't blame anyone but myself and a very bad investment choice I made. But I did what I had to do in the aftermath, sucked up my pride and scrubbed toilets and did someone else's laundry and worked my ass off to scramble out of the deep, dark hole and slowly grab my life back one minute at a time. There were many days when throwing myself in the river seemed like the best option, but I held on just a little but longer. I wasn't brave enough for that... For the past 5 years it's been one step forward and 2 steps back and I'm still not recovered completely, but I'm grateful that I've held on and I'm doing pretty good and I have options and a relatively better life.

This is a situation many of us face at this age, nearly 55 and not in good health. I hide my physical and social problems and get in there and do a good job with a stupid smile on my face. We're considered old now, aren't we at this age? The younger ones always get the job, the man, and we're invisible sometimes. We have to sell ourselves on our wisdom, reliability and maturity and hide our mistakes, none of us are perfect. But it is possible to grab this life back and to fight back and soldier on and muster up the courage and humility to do what needs to be done to survive.

Put the pooch in foster care for now. He'll be fine and once you're back on your feet you can reclaim him. Pack up your things so they're well organized, pack for yourself only what you need and find a place for just you, and find a job, any job, even if it's cleaning toilets. This is the business of living life and if you've made it this far you can keep on doing it and pull yourself out of the hole. It won't be fine, but it will have to do for today. Listen to yourself and no one else, do for yourself and no one else. No one else has your back but you, you can't rely on anyone but yourself. Use social services in every possible way, accept any help that is offered that makes sense.

Forget about what got you here and look at what's in front of you. Don't let this stuff hold you back anymore.

You'll be ok. You're smart, creative, and strong in spite of all this and you'll pull through. It's just what we do. I can only give you my best wishes and confidence that you'll make the right decisions and get through this pile of crap. XOXOXOXO

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
64. Very uplifting post. You have what it takes. I'm presuming life is
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:00 AM
May 2015

going well for your daughter as well.
Peace.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
67. You're very kind.
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:12 AM
May 2015

All I can say is yeah, 'I have what it takes' but sometimes the burden of being so strong and independent becomes tiring and I really wish that I had someone to take some of it off me or that I win the lottery or or or something.

My daughter and I learned from this immensely, it had a huge impact on her, but it made her equally strong and a genuine force to be reckoned with. Luckily she is not burdened with social issues, and is happy, outgoing, social and totally amazing. She is, as we say 'kicking ass and taking names' in her career and has never ever blamed me for our circumstances during the dark days. I made sure she learned from it in fact, and literally have said to her 'Do NOT end up like me!' and she gets it and she won't. She's promised me my little stone cottage in the countryside and cabana boys to push my wheel chair around in my old age, bless her heart, lol.

I have another doggie now, and have a good situation that's not ideal but it's far from horrid, that's for sure. We learn what we can live with -- and without. This crap we haul around called 'stuff' becomes just a millstone around our necks. A microwave... a fork, knife and spoon, a coffee mug and a plate are sometimes enough. We can wash our clothes and dishes in the shower while the Louis Vuitton handbag sits gathering dust on the shelf.

Life goes on and it's what we choose to make of it.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
137. God bless you!
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:18 PM
May 2015

I can so relate to your two posts and they brought up memories of rough times and having to start over, brought up some tears too. It taught me to never take good times for granted and to always have a Plan B ... just in case things went south I needed a plan for what I would do next.

The first step is to forget the blame game. None of that matters. Only today matters and we can make the very best of it to make a better tomorrow. No matter how depressed I became, I would only allow myself to give into it one day a week for two hours. Then I'd bawl my eyes out.

We are so fortunate in this land of plenty. Years ago there wasn't the organization of networks that were able to assist those in need. Technology helped change that, making connections possible.

I also have a new appreciation of "bleeding heart liberals" now. In reading how so many take all cries for help to heart and are ready to open their homes and pocketbooks and are so understanding, I really feel lacking and I'm in total awe of their generosity of spirit. I was raised with the "God helps those who help themselves" philosophy and I'm really always helping people with anything in my means. I just don't see that with this op.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
60. I'm so sorry to hear this.
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:35 AM
May 2015

I hope some of the suggestions/offers made up thread help. My thoughts are with you and your dog. I hope things work out.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
61. I am so sorry, I thought that the donations
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:46 AM
May 2015

were helping out! What happened to your gofundme page? If it is still up, I can pitch in a few more dollars.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
66. I don't know you that well as a newb.
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:04 AM
May 2015

But that is sad that your family won't help u stay off the street. I hope you can find somewhere to stay and i hope your case worker can help get you some kind of employment somewhere.

ThingsGottaChange

(1,200 posts)
72. To the good people of DU
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:16 AM
May 2015

Yes, I know this will be gone very soon. Such is life, eh?

People, re-read all her posts and the replies from the great DUers that want to help. And really think about what is being said and suggested. Nothing has been done on her part to help herself. Think people. What happened to the PayPal money? Where is the 'Help Me' account or whatever it is called. How do you afford a Shiba? Why has she lived in those unbearable conditions for so long? Who's computer is she using for posting? Who pays for that? I'm not saying, throw her to the wolves. But, use your common sense. She needs to help herself. Not just post on here looking for others to do it for her. Yes, you are all awesome people for wanting to help. But, it doesn't seem she wants to help herself.

Bamboozled?

Free ride?

Mental health issues? (Yes, I know whereof I speak, here)

Do what you will with this. All I ask is that you really think about it.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
74. Keep it to yourself. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. The people on this
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:21 AM
May 2015

board are intelligent enough to make their own decisions about whom they choose to help and support. Clearly you have NOT read the saga and the chain of events or else you would fucking understand what she is going through. And clearly you have NOT been through this kind of shit or else you'd keep your mouth shut.

Just knock it off; your pointless input has no value here.

Response to underahedgerow (Reply #74)

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
81. Thing is, this is General Discussion.
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:18 AM
May 2015

In GD why are valid questions and reasonable observations squelched provided they aren't attacks?

As someone who has dealt with serious mental health issues within her family members and substance abuse in friends, just playing nice and not saying anything at all is NOT helpful. Especially when the person having issues refuses to take sound advice or exhibits an incapacity to help themselves.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
123. I got pilloried for
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:01 PM
May 2015

pointing that out previously.

But the style of posting is so different that I thought it was noteworthy.

And I gotta say, I've never used currency for ass wiping.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
86. you seem to be saying that everyone is intelligent and can make their own decisions
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:44 AM
May 2015

but only one kind of decision should be discussed.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
92. I know, right?
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:28 AM
May 2015

I love posters who tell us what we can and cannot discuss in General Discussion.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
87. Wow. Just when you think you've seen everything, this one comes along.
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:50 AM
May 2015

I suppose I should thank you for your gallant attempt to spare me from my feelings. But honestly, I am more than capable of evaluating a situation, by using a broad knowledge and experience base, to come to my own conclusions. Your valiant attempt to save the rest of us has gone duly noted, and I'm glad you are banished from this thread.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
88. Judging is so easy .....
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:22 AM
May 2015

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until you've truly walked in that person's shoes you have no idea of what she's done. You don't seem to understand what literally paralyzing fear can do to someone, and how truly exhausting and incapacitating so much stress can be. Sleepless nights with that level of anxiety, trying to think straight enough the next day to deal with the myriad of issues she's tried to ...... and all, physically, on her own - you have NO right to make the claim that she doesn't seem to want to help herself. Perhaps without the depression, anxiety, hopelessness (nothing seems truly doable when you're emotionally and physically spent - and I'm only guessing at these things, TTW - forgive me if I'm wrong) and abandonment by those family members most other people can depend on even for emotional support, and you have a recipe for exactly what this has come to.

It really pisses me off when I see people ask how a poor person pays for a computer - how does anyone even operate without one anymore when absolutely everything is online, including this thread with your so helpful advice.

TTW, I hope you can find foster care for your beloved dog and get the right kind of therapy and tools/peace/rest you need to truly make a new start for yourself and leave all this mess behind.

"The ugliest thing I have ever seen is a human being without compassion." ('Empathy/understanding').

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
148. Staying in that home was a waste of money, to say the least.
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:28 AM
May 2015

Far too high rent, in a self described dump, with an abusive landlady. Continuing to choose to live there a whole year after being unemployed. How about finding a cheaper place to live? As in, a year ago?

I have been in threatening, insecure, living conditions, and have had to desperately scramble to find a place to live. I'm just not feeling it.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
153. Same thing
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:13 AM
May 2015

happened to me, 25 years ago.

I had literally weeks...not months...not a whole year...to scramble around in desperation looking for a place, not just for me, but also for a dog and two cats.


Having a whole year to prepare would have been a godsend to me at the time.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
90. Probably the most helpful post to the op.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:31 AM
May 2015

I wish these things could be honestly discussed here. Someone upthread addressed it in a different manner than you. It is similar to alcoholism, they need to take steps themselves. If not willing to do so, no additional help will be beneficial.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
119. JURY:
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:13 PM
May 2015

On Tue May 5, 2015, 04:12 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

She's only asking for $4,000
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6623072

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

One word: A-h*le.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Tue May 5, 2015, 04:24 AM, and voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with the alerter, send to MIRT
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: ow.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: to sneer at someone's pain is immature. i think we're supposed to be adults here.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
143. YOU think about it
Wed May 6, 2015, 03:27 AM
May 2015

TtW is doing things to help herself. She is calling family and friends. She is calling social resources. She has hooked up with a Social Services case worker. She is pursuing a court case (which was probably a bad idea) to deal with her "slumlord" problems. She goes to therapy. It seems she does a LOT. And she looks for work on top of that. All these little things are time-consuming and draining.

It seems like you just pulled "TtW does nothing to help herself" right out of your butt. What you really meant is that nothing that TtW has done has WORKED yet. Probably because she's in a spot where everything she does is going to be ineffective.

Regarding what she "owns": this is the same situation as someone on welfare having a microwave. OMG, they totally could have bought that while they were working!

As for still having those things now and the "rationality" of decisions being made: well, all I can say is it's very easy to judge from the outside what you would be prepared to give up until you are in that spot. When it's your home on the line, when other people are scrutinizing you, then see what little pieces of your old life you try to get away with keeping. It's always easy to tell others to live within radically reduced means.

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
79. Are you a veteran?
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:14 AM
May 2015

If so, you should go to the closest VA hospital. They have vocational rehab services (one is called TWE) that can put you to work and provide some assistance in helping you secure housing. The VA hospital in Houston offers this kind of service to honorably discharged U.S. veterans at no charge. I know because I've been in the program.

Whether this applies to you or not, best of luck to you. I've had cause to consider seriously how I might manage if I found myself in a similar situation. I googled campgrounds in my area of Texas and found several with many amenities including restrooms, showers, fresh water, electrical hookups and extended stay options - pets welcome. I considered getting a tent if I had to and just camping out for awhile. It's not like spending the spring and summer in an air conditioned apartment, but I think it could work. Personally, I'm out of the grease for now, but one day I myself might be forced to find out. Take care of yourself. By the way, if you don't already have one, get a library card. Most public libraries today have computers with internet access that you can use free of charge if you have a library card.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
116. nope, not a veteran
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:39 PM
May 2015

I actually thought of a camp ground but I don't know of any around here. This close to the city we just don't have anything to camp for that I can think of. We used to go camping a lot when I was a kid, and I loved it. All the cool places we went and making shadow animals on the walls of the tent when it rained and we had nothing else to do. I could have done without all the mosquitos though.

I do have a library card. Always did. I love the library especially when I was a little kid. My mom would drop me off there and spend the day doing errands and practically have to drag me out at the end of the day. That's why I love the internet... a giant library right in your own home.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
120. Google campgrounds.
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:30 PM
May 2015

They're everywhere.

I've camped all over the place.

I had a landlord problem once, and I lived in a campground for six months. I was working two jobs at the time.

It can be done.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
89. You said you have ten days.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:24 AM
May 2015

" I'm going to also lose my beloved dog and I can't even find a decent place for him in time."

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
112. TTW.. Dont spare your energy with this.
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:33 PM
May 2015

Some people will never understand the meaning of going through this.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
151. Don't spare your energy with......
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:57 AM
May 2015

caring for the animal they brought into their home? That is some seriously cold shit right there.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
100. I've always enjoyed your contributions here on DU and
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:49 AM
May 2015

I hope you work your way out of this, through helping hands and whatever resources you can marshal in your favor. Best of luck, TTW.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
103. I don't think I'm on your ignore list, so here are two resources for you
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:30 AM
May 2015

which apparently are temporary rescue shelters which will hold your dog for you until you have a permanent situation again:

http://www.bigeastakitarescue.net/

http://akita.rescueshelter.com/Pennsylvania

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
104. It might be good advice to have her clear her ignore list so she can see all the advice
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:33 AM
May 2015

who knows who is on it

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
105. Except some who are being ignored are simply black holes,
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:37 AM
May 2015

draining her of precious energy at a time when she's probably needing to muster as much energy as she can just to survive day-to-day.

It's always a good idea to do an amnesty once in a while, but I wouldn't blame her if she felt the condescension and sarcasm were too much.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
107. There have been times in my life where help sounded a lot like disapproval.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:46 AM
May 2015

Strangely though, the help I needed was exactly what I didn't want to hear. It's a good thing that I didn't have the use of an ignore list at that time.

Being forced to do anything is never fun, but realizing that you can live through the things you vowed to never do, ever, (like move or be separated from a pet) helps avoid similar traps resulting from being closed minded.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
113. they're temporary?
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:22 PM
May 2015

I found them both before and I thought they were for people that couldn't keep their dogs anymore and they adopted them out. I think I might have better luck with the breeder but I don't know. They'd take him but normally they adopt them out to another good home permanently. I was hoping that if I paid for his food and whatever else he needs that he'd just take him temporarily. The other hard part of that is that the breeder is really far away.

I think I'll see what I can do with the breeder first and then call these other places. Thanks so much for the info though. I never bookmarked them before when I was looking myself so it's good that I have them now in a place I can refer back to.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
114. You are very welcome, and again, I really hope you find a way
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

to come out of this on your feet, with a roof over your head and your dog with you! Things are tight for me, but if I can give something to your gofundme, I will.

Also on edit, I can't say for sure if these places are, in fact, temporary so please call and check with them; I am simply reposting from someone upthread who seemed to believe they are temporary rescue shelters.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
124. You are running out of time! Contact all of them today please!
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:30 PM
May 2015

The temporary homes (and transport arrangments) will take at least a few days, you need to act immediately as it will not be a viable option at the last minute!

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
188. Just dont give up calling places for help
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:23 PM
May 2015

St. Vincent DePaul often has programs to help. My mom volunteers at one.

I know how hard it is to dig out of these situation, especially if you are depressed (which it sounds like you are). Contact your local homeless shelter and ask them to help you find resources.

Just don't give up, even if you are tired and stressed....dig deep down and call every possible place looking for programs.

~hugs~

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
125. Do you have to stay in Phili?
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:35 PM
May 2015

If you want a change of location, I have a bedroom available. I live with plenty of cats and doggies. My son is away at college, so he won't be using it for over a year.

I live In S.C., near Charleston.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
133. God, I've always wanted to live there in my old age!
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:29 PM
May 2015

I can't move far right now though. Mostly because of work options. And because my car would never make it. I swear I'll take you up on it when I become the neighborhood old crazy dog lady that I've always assumed I'd be eventually if I get that far.

Have you got orange trees and Spanish moss, or is that farther south?

I'm so moved by the offer though. If I didn't need to stay in the area for work and had a decent car I'd be shoving Yoshi in the back of it and flying down to Charleston. Damn me, I'm crying again! All the generosity here just blows me away!



<--- this one is for everyone else or the whole page would be full of hug smilies.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
154. You do know Charleston has bars and needs bartenders right?
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:30 AM
May 2015

you'd have almost an entire year rent free and you'd be able to keep Yoshi. You'd be out from underneath the slum lord as well.

Can your San Diego friend kick in enough $ to repair your car and get you enough gas $ for a 10 hour +/- drive? You have a month to pack and get out - plenty of time really.

Almost a full year rent-free with your dog, in your "dream" area, is within your reach and you're turning it down?!

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
185. rent free???
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:00 PM
May 2015

On what planet?

No, I can't just pick up and move to some other state in the position I'm in.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
131. Glory Hallelujah! My friend in San Diego came through for me!
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:17 PM
May 2015

He wired me most of the money to my bank, and I got it out this afternoon and made it to court to pay them with just 10 minutes to spare! Traffic was crap on the way back, but getting there it wasn't so bad. This guy in San Diego used to be an old roommate from eons ago. I haven't seen him for probably 20 years, but we've always talked in email, so he's known all about the scumlord situation as everything was happening since he was the one I generally griped to while he griped to me about his ex-girlfriend. He was just away for a couple of weeks and didn't get my last email early this morning (his time I guess) wired me most of the money, and I had to fight with my bank to get it out in time to get to the court. Good God, it was REALLY close. I just made it with 10 minutes to spare though.

Now I have at least 30 days to get back to work and my case worker to find me a place to go hopefully with my dog. She's also trying to get him legally made a necessary companion animal. I know PA has some law that companion animals can be just for mental or emotional health reasons but I have no idea how it's done or how long it takes. Technically I'd have 40 days too, since I'll be defaulting on the next payment and then I'd have an additional 10 days before they'd throw me out but I'm hoping to be gone as fast as I can.

When I got home I just threw my arms around my precious doggie and cried and cried with relief. And then I slipped on a puddle the fridge pees in warm weather because it doesn't have that tray underneath to catch the "pee" when it does that automatic defrosting. I slipped in the little puddle and bashed my face into the trashcan. Blood all over. I don't think I broke my nose though. I hit the septum and gouged off some bits of skin from inside of one nostril which I think is where the blood is coming from. Mostly it's stopped unless I blow my nose, but most of it's snot. I can still breathe as good as ever out of both sides, and it looks normal. Now I'm just worried it will swell or turn black and blue. I should put ice on it except I don't have any. There's probably some mystery frozen "thing" in the freezer I could use though.

So now I'm down to about $45 in the bank and about $35 I counted out of my change jar. I got some food left but not much, and just yesterday I got a bag of chow for Yoshi since Texasgal generously provided enough money to buy the big bag, so Yoshi will have his food for about a month, giant moose that he is. I was supposed to go to the food bank with my case worker last Friday but she had a big emergency with one of her other people and was at the hospital for nearly 24 hours. Of course, I'm not allowed to know anything about that and I don't think I want to. I don't know if the food bank is somewhere I can go to myself or I need her to swipe a special card or what. I'll have to call her about that tomorrow.

This is like the biggest relief EVER! I have a million things to get done in the next 30 days, but for the first time since I got the eviction notice from the district court I feel like I'm not running around crazy with that big clock in my head ticking like a sledge hammer. Just buying 30 days at a stretch with nothing to pay the court is all I wanted with doing the appeal anyway. Once I'm outta here I hope this dump just falls down.

I'm going to wrestle the a/c unit into the window and just flop in bed without the terror for once.

Thank you all SOOOOO much for the kind words and the generosity from people here just has me crying all over again!

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
139. AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!! :-)
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:07 PM
May 2015

Well, except for the part about slipping in the fridge pee and bashing your nose! LOL But I am SO RELIEVED on your behalf!! Oh my gosh -- I had forgotten all about the guy in San Diego... what a miracle that he got the email and sprang into action when he did!!

I'm so happy for you I could BURST!!!

To all who donated to TTW during this (and Texasgal for the bag of food for Yoshi!!), I want to thank you all too! I've been in communication with TTW since the last thread on the subject, and I can attest that she is telling the absolute truth about the whole saga. I have seen the documents involved via the courthouse's online access to them. I can also attest that TTW has repeatedly expressed her heartfelt gratitude about the generosity of all those who had donated (which I was unable to do myself) during our PMs and phone conversations. She has been unreserved about that -- that it was the "generosity of all those wonderful people on DU" that had gotten her and Yoshi as far as they were at that point. As someone that genuinely cares for TTW (as we go way back on here and she has helped me in the past), I want to say thank you to all who helped her, whether by donating or offering advice or giving kind words of support. Sometimes a little help goes a long way, as can just plain empathy and compassion.

Torch, keep me posted on the job search, the social worker, and all the rest!! I've been working 12 hour days so I haven't been around much lately, and tomorrow I leave for a work-related trip that will have me gone until late Thursday evening, but then I have a few days off in a row and I intend to call you!!! Send me a PM with the best time(s) to call around your job search and whatever other actions you'll be taking. I'm going to do some research on the companion animal thing and see what all is involved. Once you find work and know what your income parameters will be, we'll go from there on finding the place for you to move to!!

Tell your friend in San Diego that he just made another friend.

Big Hugs!!!!!!!



TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
141. I had forgotten about him, too!
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:24 AM
May 2015

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I wrote to him a couple of weeks or so ago I guess it was and never heard anything back from him. Then just as I was talking to msanthrope his email popped up saying he wired most of the money. He sent me a few hundred dollars once before to help me with getting my upper denture done. We used to rent this awesome house with a pool and three other people back when I was just 24 or 25. Then he got a really good job in San Diego and I ended up moving to my own place, but I did see him that one time about 5 years later and he's not been back east since, but we've always talked all the time through email and before the internet on the phone every few months. He was just away for a couple of weeks and didn't get my email begging for help until this morning.

I think I forgot to tell you before that after both he and I moved out of that house the other 3 people got two others to replace us, and just something like 5 months later or so the weird kid they paid to cut the lawn set the house on fire while they were all at work, and it burned almost all the way to the ground. They all had renter's insurance though but losing mementos and stuff like that must have been terrible. The three people we used to live with there took pictures of themselves sitting on the soot blackened toilet in what was left of the downstairs bathroom and sent them to us. They were all drinking beer and grinning like it was the best thing ever that their house burned down with everything they owned. Turned out that weird kid that lit it on fire was lighting little fires all over town for awhile but they never knew who was doing it. I don't know how they caught him this time, but he very well could still be in jail.

I just realized I never put any money in the meter when I got to the court. And I actually lucked out with a spot right in front. After you go through the electronic widget when you first get in there's an absolute maze of corridors to get to the right office, and I was scared to death I'd get lost inside the courthouse and not make it to the clerk's office in time to pay. Cripes, my heart was in my throat the whole time since I got his email then went to the bank then the courthouse. Man, I don't know how I made it!

No more blood coming out of my nose. The whole thing is pretty sore though especially right where my nostrils are. It looks the same as ever though maybe just a wee bit swollen right around where the septum meets the upper lip. I just realized I've got a big bruise on my knee, too, but I don't remember hitting it on anything. I must have though.

Now I just have to figure out how to put gas in the car, pay the phone company before they shut me off, buy the uniform for work and OMG, buy my meds! Shit, I forgot about my meds. I have about a week and half of them left, but my Medicaid won't be approved for maybe a month yet. I think I'm ok with the other bills for a few weeks.

Thanks so much for vouching for me too, though I think it's just nuts that anyone needed to (and not like the vipers will give a crap anyway).

Man oh geez oh man, I'm soooooo relieved that my old roomie came through for me! The relief is just incredible. And I'm not going to listen to my family anymore. i'll never forgive them for this shit, but if anyone of them needed help and I could give them something, I STILL would.

OMG, I totally forgot to say thanks a million trillion for the donations and the kind words and just such generous offers of a place to go and everything! Yesterday I felt the worst I've ever felt and then today a miracle!

Yoshi and I have a chance now! Holy God almighty, losing him would just be the worst thing imaginable. I love love love him sooooooooo much!





TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
171. not yet
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:13 PM
May 2015

The guy that runs the bartending school where I went suggested doing these temp catering bartending gigs which are through agencies that hire all the staff for like weddings, banquets, charity events, etc. and their busy season is just starting and he's been swamped with calls from the agencies looking to hire bartenders right out of school to work for them. I need to buy a tuxedo uniform to do the jobs though. He said they're pretty inexpensive (for instance he said the pants are only like $15). I'd also need a while button down shirt, a black button down shirt, a black bowtie, black shoes and maybe a cummerbund or vest depending on the agency or maybe on the job. I've got black shoes but I don't know if they'd be appropriate... they're pretty old and scuffed up, but I hope no one will notice. I don't have any of the other stuff though.

Since I just spent almost all of my money to pay the court I'll have to find some way to get the money to buy the outfit for jobs, pay the phone bill before it gets shut off in a few days and put gas in the car. Oh, and I'll need to buy a new prescription for my meds in about a week and a half but I hope to be working by then. I'll really need to get to the food bank in a couple of days since I don't have much to eat left, but I just got a bag of food for Yoshi so he's good for chow for about a month. I think I'm pretty much ok with any other bills. I know already that my case worker can't do anything about this kind of stuff except for the food bank.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
161. So happy to hear this!
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:29 AM
May 2015

Take a deep breathe and get your warrior gear on! You are gonna make it!

Hugs to you and Yoshi!

 

mariuma

(11 posts)
144. Glad to read this
Wed May 6, 2015, 04:44 AM
May 2015

I am new here and have no dog in the fight.

Before Moosepoop's post, I was becoming worried for the real TTW. There have been so many strange signs with this "TTW's" grammar and syntax (is she British or not? Highly educated or not? It changes from post to post.) that I assumed the real woman's DU account had been taken over by a scammer. Which suggested that the actual TTW might be in some kind of trouble.

But if Moosepoop talked to the real TTW (though how could she know if it was an imposter?), I am relieved.

On the other hand, these bizarre final twists are begging for a Gothic novelist. A longlost admirer appears with money! A lwitness arrives an instant later and swears that she has the proof everyone has wanted for months: that TTW is indeed the lost dauphin.

I remain baffled. The truth is still out there, somewhere. I just hope no one is actually getting hurt.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
155. This is like a continuing soap opera.
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:34 AM
May 2015

Fascinating stuff.

I noticed the similarities in those posts as well.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
157. Yep, they've been working on this conspiracy for a decade.
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:41 AM
May 2015


Why are people so heartless and rude around here all the damn time?

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
163. What's odd is
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:34 AM
May 2015

there's no internet record of her existence outside of her Facebook page and Go Fund Me pages.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
165. There is, actually...
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:49 AM
May 2015

In all fairness...I've seen her name and town listed on one of those People Search pages, so I have no doubt she's a real person.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
166. Some people don't like to
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:50 AM
May 2015

known online, plus you cane see that she is not that computer savvy. You can't find my mother anywhere online either.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
174. OK, thanks for the confirmation
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:28 PM
May 2015

I've been burned by Go Fund Me in the past, so sorry for my skepticism. It's not a pleasant experience when you're honestly trying to help someone.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
176. I know someone who was scammed in this way too.
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:54 PM
May 2015

People can think we're heartless if they want.

But scammers hurt the ones who truly need the help.

There are just too many things that don't add up here.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
178. Well then, you have to choice to
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:02 PM
May 2015

not participate. Right?

You seem to be in these threads every time with the same comments and general distain. Okay, we get it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
179. I'm not the only one in these threads with comments.
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:06 PM
May 2015

I find it fascinating...this never ending story.

I have as much right to be here as anyone else.

Yes I have "choice to do so" lol.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
177. I never use my real name online
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:55 PM
May 2015

Not even on FB and twitter. You wouldn't find much about me online, but I'm a real person

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
170. You won't find my mother anywhere online, nor two of my brothers either.
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:05 PM
May 2015

I guess they don't exist, if some people here are to be believed.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
175. From Where I Sit
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:46 PM
May 2015

there is no shortage of Gothic novelists in this scenario. And I agree, I hope no one is getting hurt.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
150. These court records...
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:53 AM
May 2015
I have seen the documents involved via the courthouse's online access to them.



Are they available to the general public?

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
147. wait, so what happened?
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:15 AM
May 2015
I found out today that the slumlord hired and attorney and filed a Complaint against me that of course is going to be full of outrageous lies and damand a ridiculous judgment award. I'd have to file an Answer, and I need an attorney to do that, and even if I could possibly afford one which is just laughable if it wasn't so horrible by May 10th. If I don't file an Answer it's like I agree with whatever outrageous crap is in the Complaint, I lose, and she'll get some kind of award just because I'm too poor and days away from losing my beloved Yoshi that is my only emotional support and every damn thing I own that I worked a lifetime to acquire including all those mementos from my life going back to my childhood.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026473464#post98

So May 10th (sunday?) is the deadline? Or is that a separate issue?
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
159. Jeez, forgot about that as well. TTW hasn't mentioned that at all in her latest update
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:18 AM
May 2015

Seeing as the judgement on that is only 4 days away, you'd think that would have been added into mix...

Since the landlady is suing her for the damages in the house, that means TTW is now going to be on the hooks for thousands of more dollars.

But no panic on that front...yet.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.


TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
181. it's a little complicated how the court counts the days
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:15 PM
May 2015

As I understand it, I have 20 days to file my Answer to the Complaint within 20 days from the date that the Complaint was filed with the court. The court counts the day that it was filed as Day #1. Since Day #20 (my last day to file the Answer) falls on a weekend when the court is closed then the last day for me to file it would be the next business day which would be Monday, May 11th. I need to check with the clerk's office to be absolutely certain of this though since I can't be a single minute late.

This is just about the Complaint the scumlord hired an attorney to do. It's a lawsuit. A Complaint is normally how a lawsuit starts. But in the Complaint nothing at all is mentioned about the eviction hearing in the lower court nor my appeal in the higher court where the Complaint was filed which means that my scumlord lied to her attorney and never said anything about them. Her attorney should have filed the Complaint attached to my appeal because it's the same case. That's what I understand from the supervisor woman at the court who's really nice. When she brought up my appeal on her computer she noticed that the Complaint was separate and had a separate case number which she thought was really weird and a mistake made by one of her clerks there. It isn't though. Once I read the Complaint I knew that the scumlord just never said anything to her attorney about either the eviction hearing or the appeal. Even worse, the Complaint blames all the damages in this dump on ME! But I totally see her doing that since she's a pathological liar and this is the story she gives out to everyone.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
186. not so far
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:16 PM
May 2015

I can do just the Answer myself, but I REALLY want to add the New Matter and I think I should be doing a counterclaim. I called the Lawyer Referral Service in my county but no one has called back yet. In the end I might have to just file the Answer by itself and then file the New Matter and possible counterclaim separately later. I just don't really have the time to deal with all these filings myself. The Lawyer Referral Service apparently helps people with getting an attorney to help you if you're low- or no-income and can't just hire one yourself.

Cripes, I really don't think I have enough black ink in the printer to print it out either. I can do copying on the copy machine at my case worker's office, but apparently they don't have a way for me to email it. I'll be seeing her tomorrow so I'll have to ask her if they have Word and if I could put it on a cd and print it out there. Otherwise I'm going to have to find some money to buy another black ink cartridge for my printer.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
190. OK so we have money for uniform
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:08 PM
May 2015

Gas, phone bill, prescription, ink cartridge, food. ..

Anything else?

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
193. thank you so much!
Thu May 7, 2015, 12:02 AM
May 2015

The relief of just getting this time is so HUGE! I'm seeing my case worker tomorrow and have so much to do but now I feel like what I'm doing can actually accomplish something. I really really like her. She's been great so far though I know she has like 20 some other people as well as me. I don't know how these people do it all. I think I might have just gotten really lucky with her.

I've been really missing my old roomie. One of these days when I get a chance I really want to dig up old photos of when we lived in that house. I still see him in my head when he was 26 and I was 24/25 as if we haven't aged all these years. I just realized today that was the last time I was on a motorcycle. We all used to go riding all around Valley Forge Park on nice days and barbecue chicken and hot dogs and laugh about everything. Those were the days.



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