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This talk of DU members, whom, imo, are among the most educated and wise of modern day politics, this talk that they will abandon the party when it comes to the presidential election, is conspiracy theory type of talk.
The theory goes that one is not a true democrat if they don't like what the establishment offers up for a vote.
The evidence is quite clear that it is not progressives who turn and vote for republicans. The evidence is quite clear that it is the centrists who abandon the party and vote for republicans. There are very, very few centrists here on DU.
It is not my fellow left leaning good DUers who are at fault for bush, et al, , and so talk otherwise, to me, is really just a conspiracy type of talk and needs to end.
Thanks for taking your time to read this, good DUers.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)No despite the fact that there are a few posters w0here who openly say they will not vote for her if she is the nominee I think almost all members will support the nominee.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)At least one of them admits to a pretty long history of voting for candidates other than Democrats.
Thanks for helping to keep the perspective here.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I think we will all be there for our nominee.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)FFS, is that even a Democrat anymore?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)won't vote for A, B or C.
Please vote for whoever you want. Be a martyr to the party in your mind, if you wish.
I heard you the first time though, the daily reminders are not necessary.
Of course, you are free to keep stressing your point, but I'm also free to say that you are sounding like a broken record.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I only like the real kind.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Present proof that it is "centrists who abandon the party and vote for Republicans".
Take your time, Bob.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Take Florida. Obama won Florida but the republicans took the legislature. They did because so many centrists abandoned the party for a republican. It sure wasn't leftists who voted Obama and then for a republican legislator.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Any proof to what you say besides your imagination?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)we hear the dissatisfaction with democrats from both labor and some of our local minorities. The one with labor is getting deeper. The talk is quite frankly one that does not surprise me at all. TTP comes to mind as to why though, as the proximal cause.
By the way, they usually work the war rooms and the GOTV.
This is the advantage of talking to folks all over, as a reporter. I am using the words I am since we run a strictly non partisan news service. So I guess the balance is needed. My Tea Party friends are getting excited over Carson and hate Bush's guts.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Unions, as a whole, are not known to be left. The unions pretty much abandoned our party when they supported reagan. The unions are similar to the left tho in that the Democratic Party is their best friend in this two party setup. It remains to be seen if they will support Bernie.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Bernie is talking to Trumka and the AFL CIO might run war rooms for Bernie. The reason... he is completely against the TTP. He is also pro workers and worker rights.
This is the exact same reason they are getting cold feet over HRC at the national level. The local level is a whole different kettle of fish. Local politics are getting really odd. But I have been told that my town might as well be in Mars, so I don't do much local politics here.
And I recommend people get out, and talk, the SEIU might be a good place to start, not part of the AFL, they broke a few years back, over a decade, times flies, . but they are quite left, and locally in the actual left, as in the real definition of the term abroad... it has to do with the membership, most are immigrants and when I talk with them, we are discussing solid marxism, for example and class identity. This is not becuase they are truly aware of it, and at times are surprised... but because this is what labor does back in the home country. Construction workers tend to be more conservative, in the traditional sense, but they are also somewhat of an outlier.