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Real estate mogul and wannabe presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday night took a break from talking tough about President Barack Obama to criticize a Muhammad cartoon-drawing contest where two gunmen opened fire Sunday in Garland, Texas.
One of the event's organizers, Pamela Geller, has sought to cast the shooting as a "war on free speech." In a series of tweets, Trump suggested Geller and the other notorious anti-Muslim extremists who hosted the event were "publicity seekers" who actually provoked the attack:
Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
Nobody would fight harder for free speech than me but why taunt, over and over again, in order to provoke possible death to audience. DUMB!
9:46 PM - 4 May 2015
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Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
The U.S. has enough problems without publicity seekers going out and openly mocking religion in order to provoke attacks and death. BE SMART
9:55 PM - 4 May 2015
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Trump also called out Geller directly earlier Monday in an interview on Fox News' "Fox and Friends."
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-garland-shooting
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Sound advice.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Cages are instruments of the devil.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)And now you're saying, "All tigers should be free-range tigers. Cages are instruments of the devil."
Did you suddenly change topics?
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Sound advice?
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)A: A copycat!
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)I hold human beings responsible for their decisions. I do not do the same for tigers. Unless you are saying that some humans are actually really animals I think your statement is absurd.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Trump should stick to selling real estate.
He probably has lots of rich Saudi clients.
Hence his comments.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... though, I don't care that you say; I, in fact, support your free speech. However, Trump is right on this one. Why do you assume he has "Saudi clients" just because he thinks denigrating a religion is dumb? I, and others on this board, think it's dumb, as well. Do you assume I have Saudi clients?"
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Would you say it's 'racist' to say Saudis have a larger share of the luxury market than Zimbabweans?
If you think so, one hint: Saudi Arabia has more oil fields than Zimbabwe.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)You assume that he said what he said because he has "Saudi clients." The red herring you provide does nothing. Again, I don't care what you say, but it was a weird thing to say.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Trump is a nationalist conservative, quite likely to share many views with Pamela Geller.
To see him dissociate himself from her invites questions about personal interest.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... on this, we agree.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)It's absolutely fucking stupid to do something like this. I am not a fan of religion, but I don't make it my point to go out and denigrate any religious beliefs.
I hate to say this, but I agree with Trump on this one.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)My religious belief is that Emperor Hiro Ito is right, no matter what.
And I'll wage Jihad tomorrow on Burma, Malaysia and Singapore to prove my point.
And if anyone makes a cartoon about me, I shoot.
Other than that, I'm a nice guy. If you let me subjugate Asia now.
the rest later.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts). . .every now and then.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)JCMach1
(27,559 posts)with a stick...
You could end up like this guy:
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-05-30/story/putnam-county-man-bitten-rattlesnake-saved-52-vials-antivenin
Doesn't mean you are not free to do so... However, it's on you if something bad happens
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Not trying to contradict you or anything, just asking.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Radical Fundatmentalists of all types fall in the snake category for me...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The Anti-Islam cartoon contest was dumb.
Much better. Not sure why so many don't get that is how it should be structured. The "but" really makes them look like fools.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Matrosov
(1,098 posts)Why tolerate homophobia and misogyny when people use their invisible sky god as justification, e.g. Islam?
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Has he risen or have I sunken?
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Any american who does not passionately embrace the first amendment should be ashamed.
You asked.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)I'm not a racist, BUT
I don't hate gay people, BUT
Whenever someone uses the word BUT they negate the first part of their statement.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Accurately exemplified when saying, "I support free speech, but Fox news is dumb..."
Bumper-sticker wisdom holds little room for nuance and reality.
unblock
(52,243 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,180 posts)and insult him, his last bout, his fighting skills, his dancing skills, his mama, and his taste in popular music -- secure in the knowledge that the First Amendment gives me the absolute right to do so and the Constitution will protect me from the government coming after my butt.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't be protected from Floyd Mayweather coming after my butt. A distinction I guess I'd have lots of time to ponder while recovering in intensive care, reading notes from my friends, which would all say "Why'd you DO such a dumbass thing?"
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Go Donald