It's merely the mask she hides behind.

However, since we are Americans, protecting the majority from a minority of shit stirrers would be considered a breech of individual freedoms.

violence.

We all have rights, only sick people abuse them.

Haters and bigots are sick people.

She is abusing our Constitutional right to free speech.

It's interesting.

We all have have a right to a living wage.

Most of us do that by earning it.

Some believe they have a right to steal to get what they consider their right to a livable wage.

She is the equivalent of a thief who in their delusional minds think they have a right to take what they believe is their due.

We don't allow that, but we are allowing this woman to do the equivalent.

She is dangerous. A threat to public safety which has been proven repeatedly and is the reason why the UK put the safety of their people before her delusional interpretation of free speech.

is tolerated to a very large degree.

But the government recognizes the potential for serious trouble when they see it, and they aren't going to have any of it.

tried to use her as a source on a thread he started here once during one of the times things were heated up with Israel/Palestine. I do believe he was banned and i forget his handle but I couldn't believe it, she is so notorious!

couple of days.

he was banned on March 2nd of this year for being an Islamaphobe according to his transparency page. I couldn't think of his name. Thanks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=314353&sub=trans

every time one of us called him on his shit. Pretty sure they're still here.

I never noticed any one in particular that I can think of who continuosly had his back though there are a few single issue folks that I notice who pretty much stay in the I/P group who would fit the bill. One could be a complete rignt wing loon and only post in that group on that one topic and never get called out on it.

for exactly the reason Skinner gave. Not missed here AT. ALL.

Nightline did on the story. I don't know why I watched. They tried to present it as balanced, but it came out anti-Muslim.

She provoked those people, deliberately. I don't think there is much we can do, except spread the word she is a bigot. Make sure she is not given any more respect than a Klan rally organizer would receive.

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There seems to be an underlying, semi-hidden pseudo-syllogism behind some defense/support of Geller:

1. All religion is bad, and Islam is the worst.
2. Therefore, denunciation/harassment of all religionists is good, and denunciation/harassment of Muslims is best.
3. Even if Geller is a bad person, she is doing something inherently good in attacking people who "deserve" to be attacked, as long as the attacks are not overtly violent.
4. If her not-overtly-violent but nonetheless relentless attacks on ALL Muslims provoke violence from even ONE Muslim, that serves to prove she was right about ALL Muslims.

Arguing with any of that is pointless because you can't reason people out of hatred, or stereotyping, or scapegoating. (On edit-- and providing citations to Islamophobia is a loser's game because the culprits will always insist that they're not mongering hate, just telling "the truth." A very hatefully biased version of "truth.&quot

I wasn't aware that, at the present time, we could only choose one to criticize.

I stopped tilting at those windmills long ago, and happier for it.

I'll stick with the First Amnedment, thanks.

oh my gosh, that evil devil, Yusef Islam- aka Cat Stevens

Here, have a heaping helping of... education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_barred_or_excluded_from_the_United_States

Now you can return to your defense of that poor, poor victim, the vile bigot, Pammy.



And I can't help but wonder if you'll studiously avoid responding to this rahther salient point, brooklyn, old boy.

He was considered (rightly or wrongly) a terrorism suspect for vocally supporting a call for murder...arguably a bit more "offensive" than an art show.

As for Pammy: she's an obnoxious, intolerant bigot, and I'll defend to the death her right to be. Because the day WE decide some expression is "good" or "bad" is the day we allow our friends on the right to do the same.

"arguably a bit more "offensive" than an art show."

So speech is speech, except when it's not...

I do so enjoy this one particular dime-store rationalization of yours. Quite creative, indeed.

... and banning an entire religion, no matter how odious the actions of some of its adherents, just opens the door to banning anything and everything that evil pig and her malignant minions might take issue with. Wild-eyed zealots like Geller screech about freedom, but it's only about THEIR freedom to tell the rest of us what we can and cannot do. They defile everything this country once stood for.

I find very little to like about Islam, but I am not prejudiced; I despise all religions equally. Fanatical Muslims are not unique in their desire to make everyone worship what they worship in the way they tell you to worship. That's a universal tenet of every religion; Islam's just a little deeper on the spectrum than most of the Western Wonder Bread religions. But they all have an exclusionary, "Us Against Them" mentality that is one of their major selling points. "YOU'RE one of US, now, and THEY'RE not!" It's all juvenile playground bullshit.

I do not begrudge anyone their beliefs; if that's what they need to get through the day, fine. But the second they try to impose it on me, they're gonna have a REAL bad day. I am a Liberal down to my DNA, but I am NOT a pacifist. The world is too ugly and dangerous for that luxury.

Good for the UK for being proactive.

now, if someone can find a way to ban her and her supporters from any kind of human contact...

for Thursday's election - inciting hate for political or economic gain or both