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A simple message to ALL 'men' like Keith Ablow who want power and control over a woman's uterus (Original Post) geek tragedy May 2015 OP
Well and concisely said. hifiguy May 2015 #1
+1 demmiblue May 2015 #2
.. AuntPatsy May 2015 #3
k and r + infinity niyad May 2015 #4
Kick!!! haikugal May 2015 #5
Amen, brother. PeaceNikki May 2015 #6
erm, brother nt geek tragedy May 2015 #7
Lol, sorry, that was in my cache. PeaceNikki May 2015 #8
In the words of Jon Stewart “Holy Fuckballs!" dorkzilla May 2015 #9
Yeah, fuck your ex husband and mine, too. PeaceNikki May 2015 #10
Could be worse... dorkzilla May 2015 #16
Amen, sister. PeaceNikki May 2015 #17
That is fucked up awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #32
I can get behind that message etherealtruth May 2015 #11
and MRA does not belong on du any more than KKK or RW talking points. nt seabeyond May 2015 #12
Vasectomies realFedUp May 2015 #13
I don't want that control over men and I don't want them to have control over me. PeaceNikki May 2015 #14
It would be nice if they were free. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #15
I totally agree there Jeff, but I wonder do they ever second guess men on the procedure? bettyellen May 2015 #28
K&R mcar May 2015 #18
Ablow is to medicine, what his employers at Faux are to journalism. Fuddnik May 2015 #19
If they could f*** their own selves that may solve the problem they're creating. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #20
My feelings exactly! calimary May 2015 #21
+1000, Bravo! smirkymonkey May 2015 #22
Agreed 100% Terra Alta May 2015 #23
Ablow, when you grow a uterus, you get a choice. irisblue May 2015 #24
geek, thanks for this. irisblue May 2015 #25
I want to repeat what I told one in that thread: PeaceNikki May 2015 #26
Yup. If you don't want to chance a pregnancy in which you have no say, use our hand KitSileya May 2015 #30
Keith Ablow should have had his medical license revoked a long time ago. Initech May 2015 #27
Boy, he has really sold his soul to the devil. leftyladyfrommo May 2015 #29
Well we can tell them pipi_k May 2015 #31

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
9. In the words of Jon Stewart “Holy Fuckballs!"
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:13 PM
May 2015

I was blissfully unaware that any of “our” people could actually be in agreement with that fuckwad! We’re not fucking incubators! If it grows in my body, if it comes out of my body its MY decision and mine alone.

And an extra FUCK YOU (while I’m at it) to my first husband who married me knowing I did not want children under any circumstances and spent 3 years hiding my birth control pills.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
14. I don't want that control over men and I don't want them to have control over me.
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:38 PM
May 2015

Not even in trade in the interest of fairness.

I know you were kidding but I think it's important to say that.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
28. I totally agree there Jeff, but I wonder do they ever second guess men on the procedure?
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:24 AM
May 2015

I could never get a doc to sign off on getting my tubes tied, heck I had to blow through 3-4 doctors before I found one who'd give me an IUD, because they thought it could damage my fertility. I was happy to damage my fertility- the docs didn't trust me not to change my mind.
Pretty annoying, all those years on hormones.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
26. I want to repeat what I told one in that thread:
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:31 PM
May 2015

Women generally do discuss pregnancies with their partners, they just shouldn't be legally compelled to.

If they don't involve their partners, it's usually for good reason. If you are about to sleep with someone and you don't think she would involve you in a discussion about pregnancy and that's important to you, don't stick your dick there.

Don't fuck people you don't trust to have such discussions with you if that is something you value.

How hard is that to understand?

The end.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
30. Yup. If you don't want to chance a pregnancy in which you have no say, use our hand
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:30 AM
May 2015

Or have sex with people who don't have uteri. There's plenty of them - half the population doesn't have uteri.


However, if you have sex with a person who has a uterus, you need to acknowledge that should your sperm meet an egg and conception occur, you have no say. That's because each person has the right to bodily autonomy. You aren't forced to give up your kidney for the same reason. Once there's a human in the world below the age of 18 with half your dna, then you can participate in decision-making about that human being, but wonders of wonders! You can't force that human to donate a kidney or a heart either. Miraculously how that bodily autonomy works, huh?

Initech

(100,079 posts)
27. Keith Ablow should have had his medical license revoked a long time ago.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:46 PM
May 2015

If not his anti abortion stance (which no doctor should have), then as a psychiatrist, his contempt for LGBT citizens and his well known treatment of trans people like they're second class citizens.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
29. Boy, he has really sold his soul to the devil.
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:38 AM
May 2015

Sometimes I wonder how really sane psychiatrists are? Ablow just projects a whole lot of anger. It's scary that people listen to him.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
31. Well we can tell them
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:45 AM
May 2015

to go fuck themselves until we're blue in the face, but it all really boils down to one simple thing...

Know the person you're getting into a relationship with. Or, at least, that one little detail.


That goes for men AND women.

He wants kids and she doesn't? Deal breaker.

She wants kids and he doesn't? Deal breaker.

He would force her to bear a child she didn't want? Deal breaker.


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