Geller went out of her way to instigate death, and she got her wish, almost.

The shooters are guilty as hell and their guilt and her guilt are capable of coexisting.

its the expectation that's the tragedy, not necessarily the message from the victims. Geller's an asshole, but everyone has the right to NOT be assaulted for what they say.

and I reacted, we would both be guilty


(a little retro there to Smothers Brothers)

obviously the shooters are way way way more guilty, but the person creating the situation is as well

maybe not legally, but morally

I am an atheist, think ALL religion is bad and bullshit, BTW

I'm sorry, no excuses for violence, even non-violent provocation, is acceptable unless you are defending yourself or someone else from bodily harm.

I have actually been threatened with physical violence, on DU, because I criticized Christianity. Such immature people can go fuck themselves.

VIOLENCE?

none?

a religious figure, committing blasphemy, or any number of other offensive shit. Being offensive is extremely subjective, quite literally in the eye of the beholder, violent reactions to it are wholly the result of poor socialization.

yell the N word at his face from two feet away, the black man punches him

the KKK person owns zero responsibility for the punch?

not legal, moral responsibility

for a conservative punching them.

Its not acceptable, period. Is it really too hard to understand?

Mom Always liked You Best


genius

against each other. At times I think some people here are interested in us having a ridged ideology like the right has.
It has been said that organizing Dems is like herding cats.

you put out a bogus statement then argue for it when nobody said anything like it!

matters in rape cases.

For Fuck's Sake is right! What the fuck has this board devolved into?

with the gunmen in Garland- (would be murderers, btw, not actual murderers)

No one here has excused or justified their murderous intent or expressed any regret that they were killed.

Yours, in utter disgust at your lack of honesty,

cali

for the perpetrators, and excuses, including "fighting words" defense and "s/he asked for it" defense being used.

is an excuse or sympathy for the fuckers who attacked.

And that's ALL I've seen.