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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:14 PM May 2015

Do you men treat the women in your life with respect and equality?

I think many of us don't and aren't even aware of it.

The men in my immediate family treat/treated women like shit, but very typical actually.

I myself have been known to demean my wife's intellect when discussing something or dealing with something, and I doubt I would do that to a man, even if I was more informed on the topic.

I don't do it knowingly or intentionally and anymore i rarely do it, but it is built into me by our society.

Wait., I do know better and if I ever do it then I am just wrong.

I want every man reading this to pledge along with me to stop this shit and to make sure we arent teaching anyone else to do it.

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Do you men treat the women in your life with respect and equality? (Original Post) NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 OP
+1000! nt jonno99 May 2015 #1
Good for you. A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #2
My mother was ten times smarter than my father or my brother, both rightwingers NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #3
You're a good egg, Schwarz. PeaceNikki May 2015 #4
usually find the (male) ego right there at the center of it, seabeyond May 2015 #9
Thanks, I appreciate this thread after some heated discussions today. PeaceNikki May 2015 #5
I have a wonderful husband who almost always defers to my judgement on things leftofcool May 2015 #6
Taking my wife and daughter to special moms day brunch at resort where my mom NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #8
Good for you. leftofcool May 2015 #10
Hoping you all have a wonderful time etherealtruth May 2015 #12
I think many of us don't and aren't even aware of it. seabeyond May 2015 #7
Thank you, it takes acknowledging the wrongs in order to set them right again... AuntPatsy May 2015 #11
I don't know. I'll ask my wife when she finishes her work. MineralMan May 2015 #13
Put the dishes in the dishwasher first. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #14
Done. She says I'm ok on this. MineralMan May 2015 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #37
LMAO! Yer whipped! leftofcool May 2015 #18
And happily so, for 24 years. MineralMan May 2015 #19
My appreciation and respect for women has grown as I've grown older, with each passing year pinboy3niner May 2015 #15
I like that response, the older I get the smarter the women around me get NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #16
Yes (DH at least) thanks to my late MIL Freddie May 2015 #20
Great post. sufrommich May 2015 #21
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #22
It's hard to do that darling, when you're hanging out with both hands on the keyboard all day. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #25
and that's Mrs. White Girl to you, sweetheart. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #29
LOL - what a twerp. cyberswede May 2015 #35
Back to masturbating on DU again. Should we be flattered? arcane1 May 2015 #38
It was fun while it lasted. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #39
I'm sure he's used to a premature finish. cyberswede May 2015 #40
Real men don't need to rattle ice cubes in an empty glass if they are thirsty seveneyes May 2015 #24
I treat women fairly BlueJazz May 2015 #26
Why wouldn't I? Throd May 2015 #28
Not really, I try to but all the females in my life are my cats. And they don't respect me at all. LiberalArkie May 2015 #30
To be honest HEyHEY May 2015 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #32
Generally my consideration is earned LittleBlue May 2015 #33
I grew up with Mother & 2 older sisters the bosses, me and Daddy. UTUSN May 2015 #34
I pledge to make you stop doing that too Generic Brad May 2015 #36
I don't allow men to treat me like shit Skittles May 2015 #41
I do indeed. But do you think that helps me with them? KamaAina May 2015 #42
I'm not afraid to admit that my wife is smarter than I am FLPanhandle May 2015 #43
I was brought up by Great Depression, WW2, New Deal people. The men never gave the women any grief. freshwest May 2015 #44

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
2. Good for you.
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:26 PM
May 2015

I work on it every day, many amends
still being made, getting better, helps
to talk about the individual incidents,
offenses, usually find the (male) ego
right there at the center of it, squawking
like a plucked rooster.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
3. My mother was ten times smarter than my father or my brother, both rightwingers
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:27 PM
May 2015

my father was able to admit that when he retired from business

the two were linked

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. usually find the (male) ego right there at the center of it,
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:34 PM
May 2015

so true. power thing, that make ego, i say withOUT snark.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
5. Thanks, I appreciate this thread after some heated discussions today.
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:29 PM
May 2015

For every total asshole here on DU, there's a real gem.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
6. I have a wonderful husband who almost always defers to my judgement on things
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:30 PM
May 2015

He is never demeaning, treats me like the queen I am and has never been disrespectful to me or our children. I take care of him too. He is my king, my sweetie, my friend, and my heart's desire. 40 years a strong marriage and still going! Here is a tip gentlemen: You don't lose your man card by doing things for your wife, you lose it when you treat her bad.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
8. Taking my wife and daughter to special moms day brunch at resort where my mom
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:33 PM
May 2015

loved to go, this way I can celebrate the women in my life today with a shout out to my mom

who was the smartest person I knew for sure

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. I think many of us don't and aren't even aware of it.
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:31 PM
May 2015

i was gonna make the statement and you did it for me.

I myself have been known to demean my wife's intellect when discussing something or dealing with something, and I doubt I would do that to a man, even if I was more informed on the topic.


i get it from men that love me, value me, respect me. another is i state a fact, that has not been recognized and they own it, or will give it back to me, as if they are giving me something.

good post. thanks.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
13. I don't know. I'll ask my wife when she finishes her work.
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:37 PM
May 2015

Maybe I'll wait until I finish making dinner, though.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
17. Done. She says I'm ok on this.
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:51 PM
May 2015

She'll put the dishes away tomorrow morning. I laundered the sheets and towels this morning, along with the bedspread, and made the bed, so we'll had a nice fresh bed tonight.

We split that kind of chores, depending on our work schedules. She's crazy busy right now.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #17)

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. My appreciation and respect for women has grown as I've grown older, with each passing year
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:49 PM
May 2015

If only I knew then what I know now.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
16. I like that response, the older I get the smarter the women around me get
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:50 PM
May 2015

kind of like the kid who says the older he/she gets the smarter his dad or parents get


All in the Family did the riddle about the doctor saying could not operate on the patient because the patient was doctors son

and the doctor wasnt the father

so who was the doctor

Freddie

(9,269 posts)
20. Yes (DH at least) thanks to my late MIL
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:53 PM
May 2015

She raised 3 boys right--NO ONE will wait on you, learn how to cook and do wash, your wife is 100% equal partner. Ya done well, Pat. Miss you.

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Original post)

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
23. It's hard to do that darling, when you're hanging out with both hands on the keyboard all day.
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:55 PM
May 2015

I highly doubt that's "what you do to men..." Scurry back with your fun story now.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, welcome to DU, babe

Response to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #23)

Response to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #27)

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
24. Real men don't need to rattle ice cubes in an empty glass if they are thirsty
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:01 PM
May 2015

Let's not muddy the waters ...

HEyHEY

(45,977 posts)
31. To be honest
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:15 PM
May 2015

It was the exact opposite in the house I grew up in. A mother and two mean spirited sisters who as the only boy would make me feel like shit often. My Dad, who worked long hours as a small business owner, was made to feel unwelcome in his own home when he was able to be there.

To be honest I get along fine with them all now and see their virtues..etc. But I will never forget.

As for my house, hey I'm a nice guy, of course I treat my partner well.

The only problem I did have was early in the marriage. I'm from a very aggressive family. My wife is not. So, often when in my mind I was only speaking in a spirited manner she was afraid I was upset. I had to curb that and still do around her cause I have to remember not everyone is used to Scotch-Irish uh.... eccentricities.....

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Original post)

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
33. Generally my consideration is earned
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:27 PM
May 2015

Equality, respect and consideration are three different things. The first two are given, the last one is earned.

My wife has earned the third many times over.

I myself have been known to demean my wife's intellect


If you don't respect her intellect, why did you marry her? I could not be married to someone whose thoughts I couldn't respect.

UTUSN

(70,720 posts)
34. I grew up with Mother & 2 older sisters the bosses, me and Daddy.
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:42 PM
May 2015

And am a Dem, so the question in the O.P. puzzles me.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
43. I'm not afraid to admit that my wife is smarter than I am
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:20 PM
May 2015

Her intellect is what attracted me to her in the first place. I'm not in a position to demean her intellect.

Hell, I'm happy she sticks with me.






freshwest

(53,661 posts)
44. I was brought up by Great Depression, WW2, New Deal people. The men never gave the women any grief.
Thu May 7, 2015, 01:14 AM
May 2015

All the women at one time or other worked outside the home. They actually had more formal education as it was the men who dropped out of school to support the family in high school, and then they all stayed and lived together later in the Depression when they lost everything.

No one ever talked down to each other of any kind, or anyone else in society. They needed each other, they had many hungry nights. Such things as going after each other appear to be luxuries to me, and always have.

Like the ones who now think a small government belongs in a woman's privates. Or felling people who to love or where to live because of race or anything. Where do they find the time for sniffing out the alleged sins of others they want to eliminate?

Where do such people get off? Don't they have anything better to do with their limited days on Earth than screw around with other people?

Such people have always been either a mystery to me or they leave me speechless with their desire to get over on others. How small their vision of themselves and life must be and where they got so petty, I will never know.

We were brought up to respect all people and avoid anyone who gets into other people's faces for that little ego boost. And to look to our own character first, and not judge others.

None of them were stupid, they were quite aware there were true injustices in the world. They got involved to stop them on the individual level, sometimes on the civic level.

They had great anger at times, and could be quite rough. But they realized when they did wrong, didn't make chickenshit apologies, they repented and made amends.

The standard for behavior in my family was high, and it was a pleasure to be able to meet those standards. And a big personal disappointment to fail, because we had an example of people with great life skills.

No one rejoiced or sought to get advantage from another's failure. It just wasn't done, I guess. Life is meant to be lived well, not always prosperous, but well. I have not lived up to all I could have been, and have regrets. But no one in my family did in their own eyes. They were humble, knew that fate might deal them a bad hand at any time.

I am frankly glad they died young, most of them, and didn't see this cesspool America has turned into. Other than my huge curiousity, I won't miss leaving this mess myself. Only for those who tell me they need my help, do I feel badly. But none of us are in the long or short run, indispensable. We all have tasks that will be left undone when we die.

I miss my family, and most of them died when I was young, half a century ago. For me the idea of having grandparents is a luxury; mine were dead before I was born. To have parents who live to see one out of high school, is also a luxury I have not had in life. I'm not feeling that I was mistreated. It is what it is. It does no good to rail at the dead for not being available for you.

Some also have brothers and sisters that lived long lives, which is also a luxury. Or an extended or large family to all back upon in times of trouble.

I have never had that, perhaps that is why I treasure some things more, and why others have the luxury to savage each other and people they do or do not know.

Anyway, off for a while. This OP brought back a lot of memories. Such threads always make me feel very odd.

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