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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you men treat the women in your life with respect and equality?
I think many of us don't and aren't even aware of it.
The men in my immediate family treat/treated women like shit, but very typical actually.
I myself have been known to demean my wife's intellect when discussing something or dealing with something, and I doubt I would do that to a man, even if I was more informed on the topic.
I don't do it knowingly or intentionally and anymore i rarely do it, but it is built into me by our society.
Wait., I do know better and if I ever do it then I am just wrong.
I want every man reading this to pledge along with me to stop this shit and to make sure we arent teaching anyone else to do it.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)I work on it every day, many amends
still being made, getting better, helps
to talk about the individual incidents,
offenses, usually find the (male) ego
right there at the center of it, squawking
like a plucked rooster.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)my father was able to admit that when he retired from business
the two were linked
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)so true. power thing, that make ego, i say withOUT snark.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)For every total asshole here on DU, there's a real gem.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)He is never demeaning, treats me like the queen I am and has never been disrespectful to me or our children. I take care of him too. He is my king, my sweetie, my friend, and my heart's desire. 40 years a strong marriage and still going! Here is a tip gentlemen: You don't lose your man card by doing things for your wife, you lose it when you treat her bad.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)loved to go, this way I can celebrate the women in my life today with a shout out to my mom
who was the smartest person I knew for sure
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i was gonna make the statement and you did it for me.
i get it from men that love me, value me, respect me. another is i state a fact, that has not been recognized and they own it, or will give it back to me, as if they are giving me something.
good post. thanks.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)Maybe I'll wait until I finish making dinner, though.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)She'll put the dishes away tomorrow morning. I laundered the sheets and towels this morning, along with the bedspread, and made the bed, so we'll had a nice fresh bed tonight.
We split that kind of chores, depending on our work schedules. She's crazy busy right now.
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)I'm kinky that way.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)If only I knew then what I know now.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)kind of like the kid who says the older he/she gets the smarter his dad or parents get
All in the Family did the riddle about the doctor saying could not operate on the patient because the patient was doctors son
and the doctor wasnt the father
so who was the doctor
Freddie
(9,269 posts)She raised 3 boys right--NO ONE will wait on you, learn how to cook and do wash, your wife is 100% equal partner. Ya done well, Pat. Miss you.
sufrommich
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ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I highly doubt that's "what you do to men..." Scurry back with your fun story now.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, welcome to DU, babe
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ScreamingMeemie
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cyberswede
(26,117 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Let's not muddy the waters ...
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,722 posts)HEyHEY
(45,977 posts)It was the exact opposite in the house I grew up in. A mother and two mean spirited sisters who as the only boy would make me feel like shit often. My Dad, who worked long hours as a small business owner, was made to feel unwelcome in his own home when he was able to be there.
To be honest I get along fine with them all now and see their virtues..etc. But I will never forget.
As for my house, hey I'm a nice guy, of course I treat my partner well.
The only problem I did have was early in the marriage. I'm from a very aggressive family. My wife is not. So, often when in my mind I was only speaking in a spirited manner she was afraid I was upset. I had to curb that and still do around her cause I have to remember not everyone is used to Scotch-Irish uh.... eccentricities.....
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LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Equality, respect and consideration are three different things. The first two are given, the last one is earned.
My wife has earned the third many times over.
If you don't respect her intellect, why did you marry her? I could not be married to someone whose thoughts I couldn't respect.
UTUSN
(70,720 posts)And am a Dem, so the question in the O.P. puzzles me.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Cut it out, please.
Skittles
(153,170 posts)no MA'AM
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Not one iota.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Her intellect is what attracted me to her in the first place. I'm not in a position to demean her intellect.
Hell, I'm happy she sticks with me.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)All the women at one time or other worked outside the home. They actually had more formal education as it was the men who dropped out of school to support the family in high school, and then they all stayed and lived together later in the Depression when they lost everything.
No one ever talked down to each other of any kind, or anyone else in society. They needed each other, they had many hungry nights. Such things as going after each other appear to be luxuries to me, and always have.
Like the ones who now think a small government belongs in a woman's privates. Or felling people who to love or where to live because of race or anything. Where do they find the time for sniffing out the alleged sins of others they want to eliminate?
Where do such people get off? Don't they have anything better to do with their limited days on Earth than screw around with other people?
Such people have always been either a mystery to me or they leave me speechless with their desire to get over on others. How small their vision of themselves and life must be and where they got so petty, I will never know.
We were brought up to respect all people and avoid anyone who gets into other people's faces for that little ego boost. And to look to our own character first, and not judge others.
None of them were stupid, they were quite aware there were true injustices in the world. They got involved to stop them on the individual level, sometimes on the civic level.
They had great anger at times, and could be quite rough. But they realized when they did wrong, didn't make chickenshit apologies, they repented and made amends.
The standard for behavior in my family was high, and it was a pleasure to be able to meet those standards. And a big personal disappointment to fail, because we had an example of people with great life skills.
No one rejoiced or sought to get advantage from another's failure. It just wasn't done, I guess. Life is meant to be lived well, not always prosperous, but well. I have not lived up to all I could have been, and have regrets. But no one in my family did in their own eyes. They were humble, knew that fate might deal them a bad hand at any time.
I am frankly glad they died young, most of them, and didn't see this cesspool America has turned into. Other than my huge curiousity, I won't miss leaving this mess myself. Only for those who tell me they need my help, do I feel badly. But none of us are in the long or short run, indispensable. We all have tasks that will be left undone when we die.
I miss my family, and most of them died when I was young, half a century ago. For me the idea of having grandparents is a luxury; mine were dead before I was born. To have parents who live to see one out of high school, is also a luxury I have not had in life. I'm not feeling that I was mistreated. It is what it is. It does no good to rail at the dead for not being available for you.
Some also have brothers and sisters that lived long lives, which is also a luxury. Or an extended or large family to all back upon in times of trouble.
I have never had that, perhaps that is why I treasure some things more, and why others have the luxury to savage each other and people they do or do not know.
Anyway, off for a while. This OP brought back a lot of memories. Such threads always make me feel very odd.