That's good enough for me.

Are you going to credit TSA for that too?

...it's pretty fucking stupid either way...

I can see arguing that no one should be searched but if anyone with criminal intent knows they will be subject to searching, they are more likely not to try to sneak anything through.

It seems like a rational point to me.

...

I'm not saying that TSA doesn't have problems, but I don't see how you can keep air travel safe without searching people.

..if you'd like to start a discussion about how you keep airline travel safe, feel free to start a separate thread...

You sure made the case, right there, yes you did.

Really. You don't see any fault in your logic?

Really?

See the "asteroid" statement just above me here ^ ^ ^ ^

An asteroid is an inanimate object incapable of planning anything. It's not going to look at Earth's "security screens" and decide on hitting us based on the likelyhood of success. I thought that was so obvious I didn't need to point it out.

:snort:

They probably wouldn't have since either. It was a fluke.

And crew and passenger awareness.

The TSA is kabuki at it's worst.

My hair hurts.

Haven't hear too much more about that because his name wasn't Mohammad.

Don

He's willing to fly with unscreened passengers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=661371

the planes in '86.

Life has risks. Deal with it.

Meantime, let intelligence prevail.

Your attitude is precisely why authoritarian governments get traction. Shame on you.

I'm not sure how much of that that TSA policies accomplish. I'm pretty certain we can't measure what doesn't actually happen.

They might save lives we never know are endangered--but until they nab some perps, I can't swear to their value.

Google Bruce Schneier for a detailed takedown on why the TSA is useless in its present form.

In many ways, they've already won. We're becoming a police state.

And yet we have people defending it.

The terrorists won as a by product. Those who want power and control over our lives win even more.

Why aren't the teabag assholes railing on this?

with no reerence for America or its traditions. Of course we can count on the side that complains about big government to add the most invasive and useless bureaucracy to our budget and fail to pay for the wars they started.

high school grads. If pols are interesting in reducing the size of government., TSA would be the best place to start.