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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon May 11, 2015, 01:27 PM May 2015

In First, State To Ban Subminimum Wage

http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2015/05/08/in-first-ban-subminimum/20279/

With legislation signed this week, New Hampshire is set to become the first state in the nation to make it illegal for people with disabilities to be paid less than minimum wage....

“New Hampshire has a strong tradition of treating all of our citizens with respect and dignity, and by making New Hampshire the first state to prohibit employers from paying subminimum wages to people who experience disabilities, Senate Bill 47 helps build on that tradition,” Hassan said....

Since the 1930s, federal law has allowed employers to request special permission from the U.S. Department of Labor to pay those with disabilities less than the federal minimum, which is currently $7.25 per hour. However, the issue has become divisive in recent years.

In 2012, the National Council on Disability recommended to President Barack Obama that subminimum wage be phased out and a federal law passed last year instituted new limits on who’s eligible to enter employment situations paying less than minimum wage. Nonetheless, many families and advocates continue to argue that there is a place for sheltered workshops and similar opportunities for individuals unable to thrive in competitive employment.


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In First, State To Ban Subminimum Wage (Original Post) KamaAina May 2015 OP
The sheltered workshop my daughter worked at usually paid by the piece because most of the jwirr May 2015 #1
I understand where you are coming from. mmonk May 2015 #4
Our workshop is in a very small community. 45 people work in it. What I see happening in our jwirr May 2015 #5
I agree institutions and isolation are our enemies. mmonk May 2015 #6
Excellent! mmonk May 2015 #2
K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #3
What a bizarre headline Doctor_J May 2015 #7
Nope. The subminimum wage is perfectly legal KamaAina May 2015 #8

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. The sheltered workshop my daughter worked at usually paid by the piece because most of the
Mon May 11, 2015, 01:59 PM
May 2015

workers were not capable of producing much. My daughter had to have hands on help to do anything. She is now retired but still goes out to the shop for company. In fact I never wanted her to work but the state required it.

She seldom made more than $5 a week. The point of her attendance was to socialize and take part in the PT exercises etc.

How does this effect many clients in a workshop. Most are already getting a social security disability check each month. So you give them a job that raises their monthly income. Many then lose their Medicaid/Medicare coverage because their income is too high. If they get enough money they may even lose the social security check because they can work. So then all the have is a job (often a contract job that only lasts till it is completed.) So now they have a job and a maybe a social security check and have lost the one thing that they need desperately - medical coverage.

As a case manager I often had to limit the hours the client could work to keep them on medical coverage. So for some higher wages means less work.

In a sheltered workshop the goal is seldom getting enough money to support yourself. The goal of work is more often the feeling of fulfillment that comes from being able to do something everyone else can do - have a job. In my daughters case they extended her PT program to encompass the work she did. While she worked she exercised her arms and hands.

What I am saying here is that at least for this one group of disabled persons who work in sheltered workshop programs this new bill will not help them. I also know that there are some in society who it will help. So hopefully they will take this into account.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
4. I understand where you are coming from.
Mon May 11, 2015, 03:13 PM
May 2015

Maybe with tax incentives and rights equal to others, advancement can occur. Many people may live in small towns where there are no such workshops.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
5. Our workshop is in a very small community. 45 people work in it. What I see happening in our
Mon May 11, 2015, 03:37 PM
May 2015

part of MN is that many of the workers will be told that they are no longer eligible to attend the workshop because they work so few hours. Our state requires that the shop provide work for the clients - but if the clients cannot work they cannot attend. This is a state requirement. Only this year they agreed to allow older workers to retire but continue to attend. To the state this is about work but that is not what it is about to the clients.

Workers already get a tax incentive to be hired. For most of that 45 there is no advancement. Their mental capacity is not able to allow that.

I am interested in how this works out in that state. See what problems they face and how they are going to handle them. Hopefully they will not just return to the old ways of the institutions where there was nothing constructive to do.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Nope. The subminimum wage is perfectly legal
Mon May 11, 2015, 04:10 PM
May 2015

as long as your workers have disabilities.

Since the 1930s, federal law has allowed employers to request special permission from the U.S. Department of Labor to pay those with disabilities less than the federal minimum, which is currently $7.25 per hour. However, the issue has become divisive in recent years.


As little as 22 cents an hour. About what prisoners make.
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