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trof

(54,256 posts)
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:48 PM May 2012

CNN pundits in HOF* mode over Obama on marriage equality.

(*Hair On Fire. Could we get a HOF smilie?)

Cafferty was especially caustic.
"Obama pandering to LGBT"
REALLY ...harrumph...in 'high dudgeon'.
Chill out Jack.


Obama is speaking his conscience.

Edited to change 'same sex marriage' to 'marriage equality' in subject line.
I now realize that's a more accurate term.
trof

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CNN pundits in HOF* mode over Obama on marriage equality. (Original Post) trof May 2012 OP
How about this one? KansDem May 2012 #1
Looks like a Martini trof May 2012 #2
You don't see what's to the right of it? KansDem May 2012 #5
Nope trof May 2012 #6
To the right of what? Jackpine Radical May 2012 #7
THAT'S IT!!! KansDem May 2012 #9
One can lead to the other if you're not careful. mmonk May 2012 #16
CNN is just Foxnews Lite. Rex May 2012 #3
They are not even "Lite" anymore BumRushDaShow May 2012 #4
Never thought about it like that Rex May 2012 #13
I prefer . . . *Fox with it's pants on*. . . . .n/t annabanana May 2012 #17
don't understand jjv May 2012 #8
Maybe his own words will help you understand: ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #10
Not sure this was right move at this time jjv May 2012 #14
It was exactly the right move. Keep in mind that the majority of Independent voters ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #15
Actually I believe that assesment was correct. groundloop May 2012 #19
Your - concern - is duly noted. . . . .n/t annabanana May 2012 #18
CNN... another bastion for bigots fascisthunter May 2012 #11
Cafferty is an ASS JitterbugPerfume May 2012 #12
Piers Morgan (not really a pundit but on CNN) was surprisingly good last night. Jennicut May 2012 #20
95 percent of the time I watch MSNBC Life Long Dem May 2012 #21

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
5. You don't see what's to the right of it?
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:56 PM
May 2012

Hmmm...



Incidentally, I've had some martinis that have set my hair on fire! The secret:

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
9. THAT'S IT!!!
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:12 PM
May 2012

Little stick-guy, running back and forth, screaming with his hair on fire!

Not easily forgotten...

BumRushDaShow

(129,415 posts)
4. They are not even "Lite" anymore
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:55 PM
May 2012

since they are in a Nielsen ratings period. They have morphed into a full blown Faux Snooze 2. They are like Darth Maul. Maybe they think the Emperor Fox (re: Murdock) is about to implode and they can take their place?

 

jjv

(3 posts)
8. don't understand
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:10 PM
May 2012

Why was Obama so late in coming out in favor of gay marriage? Is this a political move for him and is it a good idea? In the past the belief was while the base would be overjoyed at his publicly coming out for GM it would hurt him badly among Independents, a group without which he cannot win (neither candidate can win without carrying the Ind voters).

Was he forced by Biden's statement of a few days ago?

Many seem to believe his statement has some force of law, which of course it does not. So how and with what groups does this help him in the election?

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
10. Maybe his own words will help you understand:
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:28 PM
May 2012

"Over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or Marines
or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that 'don't ask, don't tell' is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married."

 

jjv

(3 posts)
14. Not sure this was right move at this time
Thu May 10, 2012, 04:59 AM
May 2012

As we all know, or should know, the blacks and Hispanics are a large part of the Democrat constituency. Both of these groups are very heavily ANTI gay and anti gay marriage. I believe the president may have alienated a whole lot of people in areas where he cannot afford to lose votes.

Keep in mind most of the swing States have already passed laws against gays getting married and the citizens of these States were strongly for these laws despite having gone for Obama last election. Obama does not have the luxury this time of giving up any votes and it seems he has alienated a large part of his followers in order to satisfy what most agree is a very small part of the population. This issue, despite how the Left in generally feel about it is far down on the list of what voters feel is important today and may well be viewed as a deliberate distraction by the president.

Personally I believe his hand was forced by Biden's statement a few days ago and this was something he definitely did not want to deal with now.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
15. It was exactly the right move. Keep in mind that the majority of Independent voters
Thu May 10, 2012, 07:58 AM
May 2012

support marriage equality. This is not alienation and it is also not a pet issue. Sorry. Your thoughts are lost on me. 15 years ago? Maybe. Today? Your assessment of the nation is wholly incorrect.

groundloop

(11,522 posts)
19. Actually I believe that assesment was correct.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:38 AM
May 2012

What was said - ".... the blacks and Hispanics are a large part of the Democrat constituency. Both of these groups are very heavily ANTI gay and anti gay marriage....." is correct, and was talked about on MSNBC last night.

What remains to be seen is whether the average black and Hispanic voter will weigh this statement by the President more heavily than the fact that Democrats will stand up for their best interest far better than teapublicans.

Personally, I believe this will largely be forgotten by November. We'll see.


Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
20. Piers Morgan (not really a pundit but on CNN) was surprisingly good last night.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 AM
May 2012

Took down a RW-er who was spewing about how this opens the door for men to marry their sisters and other such nonsense. He really took it to him and then had Clay Aiken on after. It was actually a good show last night.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
21. 95 percent of the time I watch MSNBC
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:27 AM
May 2012

But occasionally I tune into CNN, only to see the Hillary girls looking so eager to jump in on any bashing of Obama.





Those two are "the Hillary girls".

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