she's probably better cut out for activism than she is for teaching class at a public university

That said, the very real problems black students have at universities (e.g. U of Oklahoma) greatly outweigh stuff like this.

Not sure what the rules are for private universities and discrimination, i.e. is it okay to have a professor who's so openly hostile towards students of certain races that they're effectively told they're not welcome in that professor's class room.

Public and private institutions are held to the same rules regarding discrimination, harassment, and the creation of a hostile work environment.

Congrats on attempting a non sequitur/red herring, though. I'm sure you'll get it next time.

Frankly I think she should find a different career.

especially in a subject like sociology brings 100 qualified applicants or more.

Why in the world would the University pick her out of all those qualified applicants?

She obviously has some things to work out herself before she should be given power over college students. Is a white male student supposed to feel like he will be treated fairly in her classroom?

I'm not quite sure what her qualifications are to outweigh her racism.

I'd never considered the morality of owning slaves before this.

I'm going to go tell my field hands to take the afternoon off.

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Srsly, though, wtf does slavery have to do with anything? I'm lost here.

You are confusing racism with prejudice-- two wholly separate constructs. Racism is the system that allows the racial group that’s already in power to retain power, prejudice is limited to the individual.

Prejudiced? Quite likely all things being equal. Racist? Not even close in given the society we live in during the here and now.

you would probably demand that the professor be fired.

So, why would you "hope she can survive this and have a long career"?

This is the type of hate filled person who shouldn't be teaching.

They are still white men.

Whereas there is a long history of discrimination by white people against black people. Doing that would reinforce what already exists.

Whereas there is no long institutional history against white men, so a few college students have only felt the prejudice of a few black people here and there.

White men won't be damaged by it because they are still white men.

A teacher is hostile to a group of students for no other reason than their sex and race, but they won't we harmed because they are white.

God, the stupidity spouted around here sometimes.

You would have to in order to ignore my point the way you have.

I was merely saying they still had their white male privilege no matter what this professor says. What has that got to do with chocolate?

doesn't mean you can demonize individuals. If you did that, you'd have to do that with everyone since every single person holds some kind of privilege.

I will now spend part of my $926 SS check ar the Mexican diner down the street.

Although I basically agree. It's hard to do a lot of damage to anybody simply by making a stupid (and/or racist) statement.

"They are still white men"

Meaning what? The rain never falls on them? If you cut them, they don't bleed?

Just looks like hypocrisy to me when

White person: "Some black people might have flaws" = mountain

Black person: "White people suck" = molehill.

In a position more suited to her mentality and abilities...and yes, Saida, I would like fries with that.

My daughter is starting her psych and sociology classes this fall. I hope she never has to deal with a professor like this. If she does, you can bet I'll be raising hell to get rid of that professor.

Maybe Director of Customer Relations for Comcast.

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Not sure why you would want to defend.

There's nothing wrong with being passionate, but she has gone too far in a few of her tweets.

Then again I would advise everybody and anybody - don't fucking use twitter. Most people have a hard time explaining themselves with hundreds or thousands of words; are you really going to achieve coherence in 140 characters?

Bryant

the Twitter thing was a given.

Why put it on Twitter? Say it to people you know in a private place and think it, but putting it on Twitter publicizes it.

I am starting to see that people might actually do these things in the hope of getting notoriety which they can use to sell their books.

being in front of a classroom if that's what she actually thinks.

She's clearly in the wrong line of work.

that would be a valid reason for denying her tenure.

Hopefully she will quickly learn.

while she either learns or fails to learn.

She has no business controlling the grades of college students when there is no reason to have confidence in her impartiality.

and judging them in a sweeping and biased way.

Professor Grundy is only guilty of stating the obvious. The last time I checked, African Americans haven't had a +400 year tradition of making white people an oppressed minority.

Stating the obvious? I was once a white male in college. How was my presence a problem?

Folks point to the lack of use of the term "thug" to describe the MC gang members killed; even phoned in to NPR's "On Point" to wonder why these whites weren't called "thugs." Well, if the civic-minded person had to describe these guys then they would have to choose another term of disparagement since "thugs" was no longer politically correct. Yet there are some -- even here -- who wander why the term isn't used to describe white crims & HyperPunks™.

Is the narrative now that any white crim can be called Thug, but not any black? Or can we all call them thugs regardless of race? I've been doing the latter for years, but I get criticized or termed racist if the thug turns out to be black. I suppose the book of lists will be edited again.

Figuratively, one would hope.

"white masculinity is THE problem for America’s colleges."

Hell yes it is.

I didn't fit in to white masculine culture and took a beating for it; in middle and high school, bloody physical beatings.

"Traditional" U.S.A. white masculine culture blows putrid chunks stinking of racism, sexism, misogyny, bullying, "date rape," and violence against LGBT people. U.S.A. culture still reeks of it.

Things are improving, but white males need to recognize that history and that current reality before they start whining. Traditionally, and still today, white "masculine" males hold positions of power and authority.

and white privilege.

But, she made it pretty clear she has a very low opinion of and a desire to discriminate against white-owned businesses and white college males--the latter being about 30-40% of BU's student body. That's a big swath of the student body being constructively excluded from a teacher's classroom.

I'm certainly not going to say that black women don't have a lot of reason to be wary of white men and their behavior, given history. But a professor/teacher has to be able to rise above that.

I get what she was trying to say, and I don't disagree with it to be honest.

It was a mistake to write it so publicly at a time when she is so vulnerable.

I also do not think she made her point very eloquently, such is the nature of twitter and sound bites.

I also think her comments reflect her youth and not fully understanding multiple points of view.

Frankly, I think some of the pearl clutching responses border on racism themselves.

This is another one of the many growing pains of our multicultural society.

none of this would be problematic.

But, she exhibited a hostile animus towards individuals on the basis of race gender, referring to white male college students as a "problem population" and declaring her desire to discriminate against white-owned businesses for MLK week.

That calls into question her ability and willingness to conduct a classroom respectful and open to all students.

While I get your point, I just don't see those comments as that strong, but its obvious more people agree with you than me.

But I also don't see her as someone who'd be interested in dialogue, nor would I trust her to conduct a classroom where students of all racial, ethnic, and gender backgrounds would be treated fairly. Once a person identifies her own students as a "problem population" it's pretty likely there would be a discriminatory animus in the classroom towards those students, ipso facto.

I'd probably read articles by her. But, that's about the extent of dialogue that's possible with someone like that--they talk, you listen, not the other way around.

But, as a white male, I have the privilege of not having to worry about that as it has no effect on my well-being.

I just take the meaning if "problem population" differently. I don't think she was talking about individuals or not individual interactions, I think she meant on group levels, talking about patriarchy and white privilege, maybe campus rape culture it is hard to tell without any context. Or thus could have been about the sae's chanting on that bus. Idk.

I guess that's the problem with something like twitter, too much room for interpretation and people will interpret things differently. If anything she has a lesson here in choosing words carefully!

are using Title IX as armour in a culture war designed to push white, male faculty and students out of positions of influence in US universities. This is mostly true in the Humanities and especially true in Sociology, Political Science and Visual Arts. In designated race and gender departments like Women's Studies and Afro-American studies it has become a pretext for bigotry and misandry of the crudest sort. Witness the fake rape accusations and attempted prosecutions at the University of Virginia, Columbia and Duke.

The cause of justice for persecuted minorities will never go forward if it's public proponents stoop to hatred, lies and fraud to achieve their aims.

The cases cited above have put back women's issues 30 years and may lead to a complete moratorium on anti discrimination charters at universities unless strict rules of due process are written into them.

If I was a professor teaching today I would insist to my department head that I have a witness present during meetings with students. It goes without saying that I would have no outside contact with students in any but the most formal situations.

When did you retire?

teacher but I did finish my MFA and was picked up by a German art dealer and was on my way to becoming one. I view these issues as a former graduate student who saw these issues played out first hand in the various faculties I studied in.

Its obvious this fraud of a professor can't keep her bigotry and narcissism in check to objectively teach to all groups of students.

She is a tenure track assistant professor, meaning she will go up for tenure in 6 years.

And she's already making enemies. Not a smart way to start.

If she was responding to others supporting the OU fraternity or someone criticizing the MLK holiday, her responses could make sense in context.

Most of us can identify with posting something in haste and aggravation that would look pretty bad standing alone in a bright, public spotlight.

If you don't like sports or casual sexism it can be hard to fit in with the white masculine culture (so I'm told). I don't necessarily disagree with her.

Prejudiced, angry, bitter, and opinionated, sure. But racism is not mere prejudice.

Frankly, I think she has ample justification for feeling the way she does. The amount of actual racist shit (invariably from white people, usually from white men) that people of color-including (perhaps especially) women of color-have to deal with is fucking ridiculous.

And they're supposed to smile and act "professional" and take it, otherwise the same privileged white men who say the meanest, most racist and vicious/bigoted things will be OUTRAGED and "hope that they burn for it.". Please.

You both are exactly right.

Thank you.

"Hope they burn for it" saw that, sick, very sick.

I believe she has ample justification for her feelings as well. Every single day of her life.

Thank you, well said and needed here.

She will learn from this and move forward. That is probably a lot more than the people yelling in her direction will do. We are all better off in a situation like this to step back and look at the larger problem she is addressing. She will probably address it differently moving forward. The others will learn nothing except they can push people around. Good on her for at least trying and I guarantee she will continue to do so.

White people in North America live in a social environment that protects and insulates them from race-based stress. This insulated environment of racial protection builds white expectations for racial comfort while at the same time lowering the ability to tolerate racial stress, leading to what I refer to as White Fragility. White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation. These behaviors, in turn, function to reinstate white racial equilibrium. — The University of North Carolina at Greensboro

Okay.