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progressoid

(49,996 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:12 PM May 2015

Hey everybody, I just found out how to end the drought in California!

I had to pick up a couple retirees from the airport and boy I was enlightened on the 25 minute journey.

Since it's been raining a lot here and they just came back from California, the topic of weather and water came up during our trip. It turns out that this whole water shortage in California is due to LIBERALS not allowing anymore dams to be built.

Oh, did I say that they both happen to be very conservative and luv Fox newz..

So there you go. Build some damn dams California!



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Hey everybody, I just found out how to end the drought in California! (Original Post) progressoid May 2015 OP
anti-science is the republican party's motto still_one May 2015 #1
Duh shenmue May 2015 #2
No, more people are needed to move to Cali seveneyes May 2015 #3
Not bad advice. We need better water storage. Throd May 2015 #4
Don't you need water first? progressoid May 2015 #6
Yeah. We got quite a bit last night. More expected next week. Throd May 2015 #7
Uh, no, you just need to build petronius May 2015 #11
Good point. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #14
I just installed 3600 gallons storage area roody May 2015 #26
rains should start back up this fall Backwoodsrider May 2015 #28
When is is raining lots, I will use roody May 2015 #32
yeah collecting rain water is a great idea Backwoodsrider May 2015 #33
Librulz, abanddon yur godles ways, fast! ananda May 2015 #5
We Liberals are always dammed if we do and dammed if we don't pinboy3niner May 2015 #8
LOL. rhett o rick May 2015 #15
Maybe we should get these two nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #9
Do you know why they called him that? A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #13
Which makes it even more comedic nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #16
It evolved into an insult. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #18
I know nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #20
It was the button-down establishment doing the bashing, not the Christian Right Brother Buzz May 2015 #23
Except where California goes nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #29
Can't you just nationalize the swimming pool water? Generic Other May 2015 #24
During the 1970s drought they went dry nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #25
Very true Nadin, its crazy that it all started with a drought... winstars May 2015 #35
Yeah it is nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #36
Yeah we want to save that little Delta Smelt fish Politicalboi May 2015 #10
And, as soon as the LIBERALS propose building a dam... Marie Marie May 2015 #12
'scuse me fadedrose May 2015 #17
So what DOES Mallard Fillmore look like in real life? JHB May 2015 #19
The rivers of the Southwest, including the once mighty Colorado... hunter May 2015 #21
They seem to forget that most/all? of the good sites are taken. LeftyMom May 2015 #22
Sites? How about Sites (offstream) Reservoir? Brother Buzz May 2015 #27
interesting idea but I think I see a problem for the folks down stream Backwoodsrider May 2015 #30
The concerns have been addressed from every angle Brother Buzz May 2015 #31
I read the other day Lake Mead is at its lowest level since 1937. roamer65 May 2015 #34
Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #38
...and don't even think about water diversion from the Great Lakes. roamer65 May 2015 #37
There should be some new 'law' (like Godwin's or Poe's) that conservatives KingCharlemagne May 2015 #39
Where is "here" Luminous Animal May 2015 #40
Iowa. progressoid May 2015 #41
 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
3. No, more people are needed to move to Cali
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:20 PM
May 2015

Then a stringent urine recycle plan put in place. It all make perfect sense. . .

progressoid

(49,996 posts)
6. Don't you need water first?
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015



A pipe emerges from dried and cracked earth that used to be the bottom of the Almaden Reservoir on January 28, 2014 in San Jose, California. Now in its third straight year of drought conditions, California is experiencing its driest year on record, dating back 119 years, and reservoirs throughout the state have low water levels. Santa Clara County reservoirs are at 3 percent of capacity or lower.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
7. Yeah. We got quite a bit last night. More expected next week.
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:43 PM
May 2015

At 6pm there was quite the lightning display followed by some hail. Then a three hour downpour. It tapered off into a steady rain. I got up to pee at 2am or so and it was still gently raining.

roody

(10,849 posts)
26. I just installed 3600 gallons storage area
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:10 PM
May 2015

for rain that may fall on my rooftop. Hopefully in the fall in N. Cal.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
28. rains should start back up this fall
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
May 2015

El Nino seems to bring in a little more rain, right now in southern Oregon I am watching the rainturn everything a bright green. Yeah the rains will start back up this fall but I think the southwest water table is never coming back because we are just using too much. Live good by using resources up then face the consequences that's where humans are at.

roody

(10,849 posts)
32. When is is raining lots, I will use
Sat May 16, 2015, 07:56 PM
May 2015

the water for laundry and toilet flushing as well. It's all set to go, city permit and all.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
33. yeah collecting rain water is a great idea
Sat May 16, 2015, 08:24 PM
May 2015

Water is a limited resource and any way to collect a little, especially clean rain is a good thing. Was talking with neighbor yesterday and he was saying he expects to stick a plastic tank in the back of his truck and go to a relatives house to collect water if no major rain falls before late summer.

Those right wingers with their emotional facebook threads crack me up sometimes. I thought you could get arrested for collecting rainwater!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Maybe we should get these two
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:44 PM
May 2015

in contact with Governor Moonbeam, Perhaps it is time for the governor to tell them, NO MORE swimming pools



For those who miss the reference, and I realize many will, they used to call Brown Governor Moonbeam the last time around.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
18. It evolved into an insult.
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:00 PM
May 2015

From the Wikipedia page on Brown;


Brown proposed the establishment of a state space academy and the purchasing of a satellite that would be launched into orbit to provide emergency communications for the state—a proposal similar to one that was indeed eventually adopted. In 1979, an out-of-state columnist, Mike Royko, at the Chicago Sun-Times, picked up on the nickname from Brown's girlfriend at the time, Linda Ronstadt, who was quoted in a 1978 Rolling Stone magazine interview humorously calling him "Moonbeam".[31][32] A year later Royko expressed his regret for publicizing the nickname,[33] and in 1991 Royko disavowed it entirely, proclaiming Brown to be just as serious as any other politician.[34][35][36][37]


Other writers and political enemies of the Governor have been using that as a perjorative ever since, in an effort to make him look out of the mainstream.

He studied Buddhism in Japan, and Rondstadt made up the nickname for him as a result.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. I know
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:08 PM
May 2015

But when you have hyper religious Christian Right (why it became an insult) doing that to a spiritual man it has a level of both comedy and irony

Brother Buzz

(36,458 posts)
23. It was the button-down establishment doing the bashing, not the Christian Right
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:36 PM
May 2015

The Christian Right didn't get a voice for another decade.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. Except where California goes
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:04 PM
May 2015

The nation follows.

I got hope for the rest of the nation since the CR got kicked here a while ago. The rest of you are starting to



Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
24. Can't you just nationalize the swimming pool water?
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:44 PM
May 2015

You don't need no steenkin' dams! Reservoirs in every neighborhood in Cali.

What the Beverly Hillbillies used to call "them cement ponds..."

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
25. During the 1970s drought they went dry
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:46 PM
May 2015

Not by state mandate, but local

They became the early skate parks too.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
10. Yeah we want to save that little Delta Smelt fish
Fri May 15, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

Who cares if Salmon need them and it could cause damage to the circle of life.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
12. And, as soon as the LIBERALS propose building a dam...
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:44 PM
May 2015

The Republicans will block it by refusing to fund it.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
17. 'scuse me
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:45 AM
May 2015

But why would they need a dam to hold up air?

Unless there's a place where they can get a good buy on a bunch of water, they can try to bring down a glacier from the North Pole? Oh wait, I forgot, the glaciers are melting. Electricity needed to make air colder so they wouldn't melt.

Has Fox figured out where they can get the dam water?

I think the Saudis or some country tried to bring down a glacier several years ago, but that's when the glaciers were holding their own.

hunter

(38,325 posts)
21. The rivers of the Southwest, including the once mighty Colorado...
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:15 PM
May 2015

... reach the ocean these days as a trickle of salty polluted gutter water.

Floods, which are getting rarer and rarer, are a natural feature of riparian environments.

Even if it made "economic" sense to capture more of these flood waters than we do now (it doesn't) they would make a negligible contribution to the overall water supply.

The only solution that makes sense is to remove industrial scale agriculture from certain area. But that would make a few multimillionaires sad. It's okay if thousands of people making barely living wages lose their jobs and have to relocate to other parts of the nation to compete for even worse jobs, but we don't dare displace multimillionaires who became multimillionaires by the gift of government subsidized water.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
22. They seem to forget that most/all? of the good sites are taken.
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:27 PM
May 2015

The largest free flowing river in California is the Cosumnes, which you can be forgiven for never having heard of because it's only 50 miles long and empties into another river you've never heard of.

Brother Buzz

(36,458 posts)
27. Sites? How about Sites (offstream) Reservoir?
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:21 PM
May 2015
Congressmen Garamendi and LaMalfa Introduce Water Storage Bill for Sites Reservoir

Mar 27, 2014

WASHINGTON, DC – This week, Congressmen John Garamendi (D-CA-03) and Doug LaMalfa (R-CA-01) officially introduced H.R. 4300, the Sacramento Valley Water Storage and Restoration Act of 2014. The bill would authorize construction of Sites Reservoir in Colusa County, California upon completion of the feasibility study. The bill was announced last week at a press conference in Maxwell. Click here to read a summary of the legislation and click here to read the full text. Click here for videos, editorials, and news coverage of the LaMalfa-Garamendi Sites proposal.

“Construction of Sites Reservoir would bring California one major step closer to a drought-proof water system. It has support across the aisle and across the state. I will continue to work with Doug and local stakeholders to move this project across the finish line,” said Congressman Garamendi, a former Deputy Secretary of the Department of Interior.

“We know that Sites Reservoir is needed to allow our California’s economy to continue to grow, to ensure that our cities have a secure water supply and to keep our agricultural sector strong. This project’s merits are recognized by lawmakers of both parties, water suppliers, cities, agriculture and environmental groups, and our drought would not be as dire had it already been built,” said Congressman LaMalfa.

The bill sets a deadline for the completion of the feasibility study and if deemed feasible, authorizes construction of the storage reservoir. The bill also creates a process by which a non-federal sponsor could develop the project. Once completed, Sites Reservoir would provide 1.9 million acre feet of water storage capacity for California and would help residents prepare for droughts like the one currently hurting the state.

Congressman LaMalfa is the lead sponsor and Congressman Garamendi is the original co-sponsor of the legislation. The Congressmen jointly developed the bill with local stakeholders, primarily the Sites Joint Powers Authority (JPA), a regional consortium of local water agencies and counties who joined together in 2010 to advocate for the project.

The project promotes state goals of regional self-sufficiency in water use. Storage is a key component of Congressman Garamendi’s "Water Plan for All of California," which can be read at www.garamendi.house.gov/water.

http://garamendi.house.gov/press-release/lamalfa-garamendi-introduce-legislation-build-sites-reservoir-store-water-millions

Brother Buzz

(36,458 posts)
31. The concerns have been addressed from every angle
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:53 PM
May 2015

The water is ONLY drawn off the Sacramento river during flood stages when the water normally shoots down the river and through the delta like shit through a goose. The concerns about salinity in the delta are unfounded as saltwater intrusion only happens during the dry season. Conservationists, farmers, and citizens are realizing it's a win, win, win plan.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
34. I read the other day Lake Mead is at its lowest level since 1937.
Sat May 16, 2015, 08:40 PM
May 2015

1937 is about one year after the opening of Boulder Dam.

At around 1,050 ft they will have to shutoff hydroelectric generation.

It's going to get rather dicey if Lake Mead goes dry.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
37. ...and don't even think about water diversion from the Great Lakes.
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:28 PM
May 2015

We will fight it tooth and nail and stop it.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
39. There should be some new 'law' (like Godwin's or Poe's) that conservatives
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

invariably wait to trot out their shit until you are trapped and cannot escape from them.

My condolences.

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