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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:33 PM May 2015

Louis C.K.'s 'SNL' Monologue About Child Molestation Leads to Uproar



One Twitter user called it the "unfunniest, most offensive 'SNL' monologue" ever.

Louis C.K.'s Saturday Night Live monologue has stirred up controversy.

The Louie star hosted the NBC sketch series' season-40 finale this weekend, where he delivered a stand-up routine featuring jokes about child molesters, racism and the tension in the Middle East.

C.K. said that there was a child molester who lived in his neighborhood when he was growing up in the 1970s. "He didn't like me — I felt a little bad," he said.

The comedian tried to imagine why child molesters would still commit the crime. "From their point of view, it must be amazing, for them to risk so much," he said. He then acknowledged the controversial nature of the material, adding, "It's my last show probably."

Indeed, a number of Twitter users were not pleased with what they heard. One person called it the "unfunniest, most offensive SNL monologue" ever, while someone else tweeted that her "heart aches for humanity" because of the monologue.

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Louis C.K.'s 'SNL' Monologue About Child Molestation Leads to Uproar (Original Post) Purveyor May 2015 OP
"One Twitter user called it the "unfunniest, most offensive 'SNL' monologue" ever." zappaman May 2015 #1
"Journalism" arcane1 May 2015 #5
One person's joke is another person's offense. Initech May 2015 #9
I so love Mitch Hedberg CrawlingChaos May 2015 #26
Same here. randome May 2015 #66
Was it funny? Jesus Malverde May 2015 #49
Louis C.K.? Offensive? Get outta here! KamaAina May 2015 #85
Louis C.K. said something offensive? Can we be sure? It sounds so out of character. Oneironaut May 2015 #2
One of the great comedians of my lifetime... trumad May 2015 #3
. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #50
I always find Louis C.K. very funny. former9thward May 2015 #4
SNL has not been relevant since the 90s. When I was in the Exilednight May 2015 #6
I remember SNL doing comedy skits on virgogal May 2015 #7
I remember Al Franken and his writing partner Tom Davis deutsey May 2015 #14
I recall a Franken and Davis bit bvf May 2015 #17
And it just occurred to me deutsey May 2015 #20
"He didn't like me — I felt a little bad," he said." Scurrilous May 2015 #8
I see nothing wrong with black humor. bvf May 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #11
The most outrageous thing I ever saw or heard bvf May 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #16
Brad Williams had a great bit about a similar subject on his current CD. Initech May 2015 #15
I didn't think it was that bad..... femmocrat May 2015 #12
I thought it was funny... SidDithers May 2015 #18
Did they forget what SNL was like in the 70s? Dr. Strange May 2015 #19
If it had been pedophilia against little girls.... Bonobo May 2015 #21
Well you better run to that other group and express outrage. trumad May 2015 #31
Too cowardly to answer the question I see. nt Bonobo May 2015 #33
Cowardly---LOL trumad May 2015 #36
That's what I thought you'd say! Bonobo May 2015 #38
who really gives a fuck. trumad May 2015 #40
LOL. Bonobo May 2015 #46
Why wouldn't it be as funny? Bradical79 May 2015 #83
It's fun to pretend we know what would or would not happen LanternWaste May 2015 #45
Not acquainted with Sarah Silverman, I gather? ieoeja May 2015 #70
God I love her. Codeine May 2015 #76
pssh, anyone remember Eddie Murphy on SNL? yeee-ow MisterP May 2015 #22
"Instant outrage" was why Twitter was invented. That, and to expose the world's most stupid people. Fred Sanders May 2015 #23
I dont watch SNL because it isn't funny LittleBlue May 2015 #24
Some older people don't get the humor. Nt Logical May 2015 #25
I'm 32 LittleBlue May 2015 #28
SNL maybe... trumad May 2015 #32
You're 32 and you think you're 'older'? philosslayer May 2015 #37
The ratings have been fine, maybe you just dont get it! Nt Logical May 2015 #68
Seriously?! I'm 60. MindPilot May 2015 #39
haha, love the Depends part wordpix May 2015 #75
I'm 63 and big SNL fan - don't think all oldsters are humorless wordpix May 2015 #74
Some people are born old. GoneOffShore May 2015 #82
Louis CK is perhaps the funniest working comedian in the country. Codeine May 2015 #34
. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #51
Funnier than Dave Chappelle? LittleBlue May 2015 #53
Chapelle has been irrelevant for a decade at least. nt Codeine May 2015 #56
Two Words. Buck Henry CBGLuthier May 2015 #27
To me it felt like he was trying to be so edgy, but I didn't find it particularly clever or funny. Arugula Latte May 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #30
Yeah, I liked Welcome to the Dollhouse but Happiness was RiffRandell May 2015 #84
The "submissive elves" sketch wheniwasincongress May 2015 #35
Ugh. That sketch following the monologue made me a bit queasy. Arugula Latte May 2015 #67
What about Alec Baldwin and Adam Sandler... yallerdawg May 2015 #41
It's worth remember that SNL has been wildly unfunny for most of its run Orrex May 2015 #42
I gave up on the boob tube years ago... Jesus Malverde May 2015 #48
Funny or not, CK raises a very important question. MindPilot May 2015 #43
They have a place to go Jesus Malverde May 2015 #52
Not sure you read that properly. Bradical79 May 2015 #86
And hence his genius... trumad May 2015 #69
There is not one time in my life I thought pedophilia was funny (in any context). boston bean May 2015 #44
Well at least they got product placements for mounds chocolate bars and McDonald's. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #47
I doubt mounds or McD wants to be placed in a molestation skit. Hassin Bin Sober May 2015 #57
I suspect they did like I love mounds bar part. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #59
Nonsense melman May 2015 #64
"Filth" Goblinmonger May 2015 #73
It is a comedian. Comedians have been known for bad taste. I can understand still_one May 2015 #54
he's now hit 3 topics that cut close to home, and i still find him one of the funniest comedians unblock May 2015 #55
Not funny vankuria May 2015 #58
A twitter user was quoted as typing.... NCTraveler May 2015 #60
SNL is a bad high school play olddots May 2015 #61
I thought the bit comparing his kids fighting B2G May 2015 #62
I wasn't appalled fadedrose May 2015 #63
"One twitter user", eh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #65
Good thing most of these people never heard hifiguy May 2015 #71
Yes, indeed. bvf May 2015 #72
It's comedy. Buzz Clik May 2015 #77
I wasn't offended AndreaCG May 2015 #78
I suggest that some of us that experienced molestation as a child took it quite differently than Purveyor May 2015 #79
The whole episode Aerows May 2015 #80
The Israel-Palestinian bit was brilliant eissa May 2015 #81
Same here for me IVoteDFL May 2015 #87
Louis CK's problem... sendero May 2015 #88

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
1. "One Twitter user called it the "unfunniest, most offensive 'SNL' monologue" ever."
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

Omigod!
Is that what one twitter user said?
Land sakes, I need to fetch me my fainting couch posthaste!

Initech

(100,104 posts)
9. One person's joke is another person's offense.
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:25 PM
May 2015

Or to quote Mitch Hedburg: "You can't please everyone all the time, and last night all those people were at my show."

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
26. I so love Mitch Hedberg
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:24 AM
May 2015

Don't know how I can I believe in a loving God in a world where Mitch Hedberg is dead and Dane Cook lives. *sigh*

Oneironaut

(5,525 posts)
2. Louis C.K. said something offensive? Can we be sure? It sounds so out of character.
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:47 PM
May 2015

Also, someone is complaining about SNL being unfunny? Are they a first time watcher?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
6. SNL has not been relevant since the 90s. When I was in the
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:07 PM
May 2015

Army, then college, it was can't miss. Now, I ask the kids at work and my nieces and nephews if they've seen it and not a single one of them have bothered.

Now, Colbert and Stewart were widely watched.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
14. I remember Al Franken and his writing partner Tom Davis
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:24 PM
May 2015

coming out on stage, live, and calling for the violent overthrow of the US government.

It was a joke, but it was also very much of the times. It barely received a blip of attention back then. I can just imagine what would happen today.

At another time, Franken and Davis also came out dressed in Nazi SS uniforms.

At still another time, Dan Ackroyd defied NBC censors and showed his butt crack on live TV during the infamous Nerd/Plumber skit.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
17. I recall a Franken and Davis bit
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
May 2015

involving Franken having brain cancer and being unable to complete a joke without Davis throwing a bucket of cold water on his face.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
8. "He didn't like me — I felt a little bad," he said."
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:15 PM
May 2015

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia already covered this:

<snip>

""Charlie Got Molested" is the seventh episode of the first season of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

When news of a former gym teacher getting arrested for molesting his students hits Charlie suddenly gets nervous, causing Dee and Dennis to conclude that he may have been a victim and stage an intervention. Mac becomes jealous that he wasn't the one who got molested."

http://itsalwayssunny.wikia.com/wiki/Charlie_Got_Molested

Response to bvf (Reply #10)

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
13. The most outrageous thing I ever saw or heard
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:07 PM
May 2015

Last edited Tue May 19, 2015, 12:35 AM - Edit history (1)

was the National Lampoon cover featuring the then-iconic image of a Biafran child holding an empty rice bowl, rendered in chocolate, with a bite taken out of its head.

Response to bvf (Reply #13)

Initech

(100,104 posts)
15. Brad Williams had a great bit about a similar subject on his current CD.
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:25 PM
May 2015

I'd post it but I think even mentioning the subject might get my post hidden.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
12. I didn't think it was that bad.....
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:44 PM
May 2015

I was more offended by the shoemaker and his elves. Ugh.

The 1970s were a different time. There were so many new "shocking" social issues to deal with all at once that I don't think people got as outraged about each one. Plus, the war and Watergate were the overriding issues of the time. At least that is what I remember through the haze of time.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
31. Well you better run to that other group and express outrage.
Mon May 18, 2015, 07:09 AM
May 2015

on edit:
Oh shit---I see you already did.

Dude really?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
36. Cowardly---LOL
Mon May 18, 2015, 08:50 AM
May 2015

It's a fucking comedian. Dude--- do you really feel so aggrieved over a comedian making a joke that you have to go to the Men's Group to complain.

Really weird.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
38. That's what I thought you'd say!
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:05 AM
May 2015

So predictable...and yes, afraid to answer the question.

If a comedian joked about how a pedophile like fucking little girls cause it felt so good, would you be okay with that?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
40. who really gives a fuck.
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:17 AM
May 2015

This is what you go around worrying about all day?

Dude...check yourself.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
83. Why wouldn't it be as funny?
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:35 PM
May 2015

Of course you'd have to completely change the comedian to someone like Sarah Silverman for the setup to make sense. Someone below pointed out a similar joke from her.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
45. It's fun to pretend we know what would or would not happen
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:01 AM
May 2015

It's fun to pretend we know what would or would not happen-- as our prophecies often seem to validate our own biases...

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
70. Not acquainted with Sarah Silverman, I gather?
Mon May 18, 2015, 03:10 PM
May 2015

"I was raped by my doctor, which is kind of bittersweet for a Jewish girl."

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
24. I dont watch SNL because it isn't funny
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:18 AM
May 2015

and neither is Louis CK. Trying so hard to get a laugh makes something less funny to me.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
74. I'm 63 and big SNL fan - don't think all oldsters are humorless
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:28 AM
May 2015

I came back to SNL in the Will Farrell days and since then, it's mostly very funny. Sure there are stupid bits but not every comedian and comic writer can hit a home run every time. This particular bit was not that funny, IMO. But it actually had some truth to it---mainly that molesters are people who will risk everything to molest with no thought to consequences to their own lives, much less the lives of the children they molest. I wasn't offended---in fact, LCK was putting molesters down, implying they're so addicted to/stupid in their behavior they'll totally blow up their jobs, families, and their own lives.

GoneOffShore

(17,341 posts)
82. Some people are born old.
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:10 PM
May 2015

And brought up in the Church of Perpetual Outrage.

I thought the routine was hilarious. Painful, but hilarious.

And I'm 67.

I'm changing my sig line to: You do not have a right to not be offended.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
34. Louis CK is perhaps the funniest working comedian in the country.
Mon May 18, 2015, 08:03 AM
May 2015

The upright and uptight are unlikely to appreciate his humor, I suppose.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
27. Two Words. Buck Henry
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:27 AM
May 2015

Surely everyone remembers Buck Henry's Uncle Roy child molester sketches.

Comedy isn't always pretty.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
29. To me it felt like he was trying to be so edgy, but I didn't find it particularly clever or funny.
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:49 AM
May 2015

I've seen his show a few times ... I don't know, I don't think I'll ever be a big fan.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
84. Yeah, I liked Welcome to the Dollhouse but Happiness was
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:47 PM
May 2015

fucking disturbing all the way around.

Although in WTTD the Jr. High kid tells Dawn to show up after school because he's going to rape her...and she does.

I believe it was more to shed light on the character Dawn as she was starved for attention, but screwed up nonetheless.

All of his films got great reviews, too.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
35. The "submissive elves" sketch
Mon May 18, 2015, 08:11 AM
May 2015

was the unfunniest, most offensive part of the show. To hear the audience laugh at it withered my heart.

Hillary and mugshot sketches were great though

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
67. Ugh. That sketch following the monologue made me a bit queasy.
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:12 PM
May 2015

SNL seems to be relying more and more on "shock" humor rather than clever, intelligent writing/acting. It's kind of sad to see.

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
42. It's worth remember that SNL has been wildly unfunny for most of its run
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:25 AM
May 2015

Even including the Tina Fey years, if we took the absolute best bits from the entire run of the show, you might come close to almost producing one high-quality season.

However, Louis CK is a love-him-or-hate-him comic, and he absolutely doesn't shy away from controversy. I hope that Twitter can somehow survive its outrage.


 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
43. Funny or not, CK raises a very important question.
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:27 AM
May 2015

It sad that it takes a comic to address the most serious issues. But he is right, exactly how is it that someone would risk literally everything to satisfy an urge that to most of us--if we have it all--is nothing more than a passing thought, dismissed with a "I can't believe I even thought of that..."

Until we get past our natural revulsion and actually examine the problem, along with allowing pedophiles a place to go for help BEFORE they molest a child, we simply continue to allow our children to be molested.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
86. Not sure you read that properly.
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:58 PM
May 2015

Prison is the fail state, not the solution. Can't throw someone in prison for something they haven't done, so when prison comes into the picture someone has probably already been hurt.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
44. There is not one time in my life I thought pedophilia was funny (in any context).
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:27 AM
May 2015

In fact, it makes me sick.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
47. Well at least they got product placements for mounds chocolate bars and McDonald's.
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:29 AM
May 2015

I'd like to know who wrote that filth.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
59. I suspect they did like I love mounds bar part.
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:58 AM
May 2015

Its obvious product placement, likely paid for. People don't watch ads anymore and in these desperate times advertisers have moved to in show product placements that cannot be avoided or DVRed. Trust me the mention was not an accident or spontaneous and certainly not Ad libitum.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
73. "Filth"
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:15 AM
May 2015

Do you think Louis was advocating pedophilia? Or do you think he was making a bigger point against it?

still_one

(92,422 posts)
54. It is a comedian. Comedians have been known for bad taste. I can understand
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:45 AM
May 2015

why most believe it over the top because of the dispicible crime, but why listen to it if you are offended would be my question. I personally don't watch SNL anymore. I don't find it particular humorous or entertaining

I don't like hate rare like Limbaugh or hannity, so I don't listen them

unblock

(52,331 posts)
55. he's now hit 3 topics that cut close to home, and i still find him one of the funniest comedians
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:47 AM
May 2015

we saw him "in concert" a few days after mrs. unblock was first diagnosed with breast cancer, and sure enough, he had to throw in a joke about cancer and dying. the audience laughed, but it was hardly his best joke of the evening. still, we weren't ready to do anything but get pissed off that he would do that. we can laugh about it now, though.

then he also had a lame joke about kids with peanut allergies, basically why not just round them up and kill them all. also not one of his best jokes judging from the audience reaction but definitely not something we found funny either.

i'll confess to noticing a pattern. it can be easier to laugh about it when the wound is not raw.

timing is everything in comedy.

vankuria

(904 posts)
58. Not funny
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:51 AM
May 2015

was watching until he started his joke about pedophiles and I had to change the channel. Some subjects are off limits and that's one of them...just my opinion.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
61. SNL is a bad high school play
Mon May 18, 2015, 11:02 AM
May 2015

every once in a while they throw in some controversy to get veiwers .

Rolling Stone and SNL are tired old status quo dreck .

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
62. I thought the bit comparing his kids fighting
Mon May 18, 2015, 11:05 AM
May 2015

to Israel & Palestine what a hoot.

The pedophilia bit...not so much.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
63. I wasn't appalled
Mon May 18, 2015, 11:27 AM
May 2015

When I was somewhere from 5-7, there was a house in another row of homes behind ours. All us kids were told "don't go by Christmas' house or he might grab you." Never went there but Lewis CK's story reminded me of it. He made it sound funny, but his experiences must have been common a long time ago.

Stuff like this was tolerated by people when they thought somebody was "crazy" and they let them alone as long as "they" let "us" alone. We moved, and I don't know if Christmas was an abuser or not...this was in the early forties.

There was another house we played at nearby, and a grandfather of one of our playmates, did certain things that we were afraid to mention to our parents...and there must have been 5 or 6 little girls involved. Someone in charge of him must have sensed something because usually a head would appear at the window, and the old man would act real innocent....this is the first time I have ever mentioned it anywhere to anyone. I do recall that several of us were preparing for First Holy Communion and the nuns had told us to not let anyone touch you. To a 5-year old, that made little sense.

We stopped going there without being told, and didn't talk about it to each other, didn't tell anybody and it wasn't funny and we really didn't understand what was going on. No "real" damage was done except for a 70-year old memory..

There wasn't the fuss about child abuse, male or female, because unless a person ran around with a hammer or hatchet killing people, there was no place for sexual deviates to be kept and families who knew must have been ashamed.

It wasn't till maybe the 70-80's that this stuff started to be made public by victims who were abused by those in authority, and not by the neighborhood Christmas.


ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
65. "One twitter user", eh?
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:03 PM
May 2015

Holy shit, I really need to change my opinion now, I guess.

Random assholes on the internet seem to be the most humorless fucks on Earth.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
72. Yes, indeed.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:51 AM
May 2015

Outrage is an essential tool in comedy, especially when it has a social message.

One of the first books by a comedian I ever read was Bruce's "How to Talk Dirty and Influence People."

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
79. I suggest that some of us that experienced molestation as a child took it quite differently than
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:35 PM
May 2015

those who hadn't.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
81. The Israel-Palestinian bit was brilliant
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:26 PM
May 2015

And, yes, I found his whole set hilarious (and I say this as a victim of a pedophile.) Then again, it takes a whole lot to offend me.

IVoteDFL

(417 posts)
87. Same here for me
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:27 PM
May 2015

I spent many years as a victim of molestation as a child from an older relative, who is now deceased. I've been free from my baggage since the day he died. No joke can ever hurt me... it's just a joke, and honestly a pretty funny one. I'm familiar with Louie CK though, so I'm not like shocked that he would use touchy subjects for material.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
88. Louis CK's problem...
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:07 PM
May 2015

... is that he goes right over the head of most people.

Any time you push the envelope on anything you risk having something that offends or that people don't understand. This won't be hist last show, you can count on that - he's one of the top five doing stand up right now.

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