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MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:18 PM May 2015

Hillary Clinton's Grassroots Campaign?

Very early in the 2016 presidential race, Hillary Clinton is taking a relatively unusual approach for someone who is the current polling leader in the Democratic primary race. She's eschewing extensive media exposure and is, instead, focusing on small meetings with a variety of constituents. Starting in Iowa, she's working on presenting herself as a one-on-one candidate.

No doubt this will not continue for very long, but it's an interesting way for her to get started. No huge campaign rallies or TV talk show appearances. Just sitting down with folks and sharing ideas. The media's covering this, because they have to, really, and her little gatherings are making the major network news programming. Cable news? Well, not so much, but the three major evening news programs still capture far more viewers than all of the cable news programming combined. Lots of people forget that, it seems.

So, is this her strategy? Will she continue this grassroots-looking campaign? I don't know. Today, she named an adviser with strong links in the Hispanic community, where she will no doubt do pretty well. She's polling well in the black community already, and we can expect her to make appearances to that audience as well.

Of course, Bernie Sanders, currently her only declared opponent, is going full-on grassroots in his bid. That may be how he campaigns throughout, unless he can raise more money that he has so far. Others will be joining the primary race soon, too.

So, how long can Hillary Clinton continue to approach this on such a small scale? I'm not sure, but it's an interesting start. It lets her avoid the big issues for now, and cast herself as the small business, middle class candidate. She'll have to address the big issues, of course, but she can probably extend this low-key campaigning for some time.

Looks like she has learned something from 2008. We'll see how far that goes.

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Hillary Clinton's Grassroots Campaign? (Original Post) MineralMan May 2015 OP
"small business, middle class candidate." NYC_SKP May 2015 #1
Brilliant riposte, there... MineralMan May 2015 #2
The jokes write themselves with this candidate. NYC_SKP May 2015 #3
Looks like that what she's selling, though. MineralMan May 2015 #4
Wow, that list of contributors looks exactly like the list of our two term president. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #6
Looks like the list of contributors for all winning Presidents. MineralMan May 2015 #7
"Don't hate the playa, hate the game." DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #15
Personally, I'd love to see publicly funded campaigns. MineralMan May 2015 #17
Not to mention, I'd love to see real debates, and not these side show canned Exilednight May 2015 #41
Interesting thing about those charts. DanTex May 2015 #14
That is interesting, isn't it. MineralMan May 2015 #18
That list shows Hillary's coming from corporations, not people. Unless you are doing a Mitt Romney peacebird May 2015 #19
Actually, it's individual contributors associated with those MineralMan May 2015 #20
See post 25, my bad... Sorry... peacebird May 2015 #26
No problem. Many people miss that. MineralMan May 2015 #27
No, it shows that her money is coming from individuals employed at corporations. DanTex May 2015 #22
Thanks, I see it now, i looked at names and the total - didn't notice the important breakdown cols peacebird May 2015 #25
That is flat out false. Brazen to claim that. cali May 2015 #21
Umm, did you even look at the chart? DanTex May 2015 #23
It doesn't matter, because "Hillary BAD" ... or something. 11 Bravo May 2015 #30
Since "Corporations are People", I suppose you might be right. NYC_SKP May 2015 #34
Did you even look at them? There's a column for "individuals" and a column for "PACs". DanTex May 2015 #35
Can you get the charts just for this election season? That would be interesting to see also peacebird May 2015 #24
Found the site, career donations for clinton thru 2008, for sanders thru last year peacebird May 2015 #29
Thanks, peacebird! NYC_SKP May 2015 #33
So Hillary got most of her money from individuals and Bernie got most of his from PACs? brooklynite May 2015 #31
I know an individual at Morgan Stanley, he drives a Tesla. NYC_SKP May 2015 #37
I know a Wall Street lawyer, she drives a VW Golf brooklynite May 2015 #38
I'm telling you, demonize wealth at your own peril. JaneyVee May 2015 #39
I know an individual on Medi Cal DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #40
Grass roots? Or Weed-n-feed? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #5
Of course it's show biz. I didn't imply that it wasn't. MineralMan May 2015 #8
It's an open secret, like israel's nuclear program, that the few questions that are asked are pre- Exilednight May 2015 #43
Nice observations, MM! yallerdawg May 2015 #9
I think Clinton is planning some sort of big rally in Iowa MineralMan May 2015 #11
it really sounds like a building of state to state, which i am really liking. i think we have seabeyond May 2015 #10
Well, she certainly has the funds to do that. MineralMan May 2015 #12
If she wants to win Iowa and New Hampshire, that's the way to go frazzled May 2015 #13
And I'm sure she does want to win in both. MineralMan May 2015 #16
Far Left until After fredamae May 2015 #28
Artifice and greed based. JEB May 2015 #32
Grassroots will be playing n her campaign. She has lots of contacts who are Thinkingabout May 2015 #36
It's good to keep in mind that her campaign manager worked on the Howard Dean campaign justiceischeap May 2015 #42

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
7. Looks like the list of contributors for all winning Presidents.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:33 PM
May 2015

Presidential campaigns are billion dollar things. All of those contributors donate to both sides. Presidential campaigns are hedge funds, and those donors are used to hedge funds.

The next President will have similar donors.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. "Don't hate the playa, hate the game."
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:52 PM
May 2015

The only thing that I feel more strongly about than removing money from politics is how hurtful it would be those who depend on to unilaterally disarm (stop taking money) and consequently lose elections.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
17. Personally, I'd love to see publicly funded campaigns.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:55 PM
May 2015

And only those. I'd be happy to be taxed to pay for them, but I'd expect them to be on a much smaller scale. Make the news media cover campaigns instead of relying on advertising dollars. I seem to remember them doing that decades ago.

It's just a dream, though. What it would take to change how we do things isn't going to happen in my lifetime.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
14. Interesting thing about those charts.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:51 PM
May 2015

Most of Hillary's money comes from individuals, and most of Bernie's comes from PACs.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
19. That list shows Hillary's coming from corporations, not people. Unless you are doing a Mitt Romney
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:00 PM
May 2015

'Corporations are people, my friend'

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
20. Actually, it's individual contributors associated with those
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:02 PM
May 2015

corporations. Look closely at the chart. That's clear.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
25. Thanks, I see it now, i looked at names and the total - didn't notice the important breakdown cols
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:20 PM
May 2015
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. That is flat out false. Brazen to claim that.
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:03 PM
May 2015

<snip>

Sanders’ campaign finance reports reflect his emphasis on small donations. Contributions of $200 accounted for 61 percent of his fundraising between 2009 and 2014, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. (By way of comparison, Republican Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s small-donor base was about 43 percent of his fundraising total in the same time period. Paul has similarly emphasized grassroots support and is likely to announce his presidential bid in a few days.)

<snip>

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2015-03-26/bernie-sanders-hates-money-in-politics-the-very-thing-he-ll-need-to-beat-clinton

The vast majority of HRC's political donations come and have always come from big money bundlers at places like Citibank.

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000019

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
23. Umm, did you even look at the chart?
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:04 PM
May 2015

Maybe the chart is wrong, in which case you should take it up with NYC_SKP. But the chart pretty clearly shows that most of Hillary's contributions fall under the "individuals" column, and most of Bernie's fall under the "PACs" column.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
34. Since "Corporations are People", I suppose you might be right.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:26 PM
May 2015

Twisted logic being what it is, and Citizens United.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
35. Did you even look at them? There's a column for "individuals" and a column for "PACs".
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:54 PM
May 2015

Almost all of the money in the Clinton chart is in the individuals column, meaning it came from individuals employed at those companies.

I know, I'm killing a perfectly good moment of Hillary-hate with my silly facts...

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
24. Can you get the charts just for this election season? That would be interesting to see also
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:17 PM
May 2015

Plus total number of donations and average donation amount.....

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
31. So Hillary got most of her money from individuals and Bernie got most of his from PACs?
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:30 PM
May 2015

Interesting.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
37. I know an individual at Morgan Stanley, he drives a Tesla.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:04 PM
May 2015

Also has a Corvette and an SUV.

Likes Hillary, I reckon.

Go figure.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
38. I know a Wall Street lawyer, she drives a VW Golf
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:15 PM
May 2015

She likes Elizabeth Warren.

Go figure.

(nb - my wife)

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
39. I'm telling you, demonize wealth at your own peril.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:20 PM
May 2015

It's absolutely not a winning message. The rich aren't the enemy, rich conservatives are. I know plenty of rich liberals fighting for great causes, by demonizing wealth you're basically telling everyone "we'll keep you poor because being rich is awful". If you think that's a winning message then go for it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
40. I know an individual on Medi Cal
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:21 PM
May 2015

I know an Individual on Medi Cal (that's the CA Medicaid program for individuals below the poverty line)

ME

He/Me is voting for Hillary.

In Los Angeles it will be the people in South and East L A voting overwhelmingly for Hillary and the people in West L A , not so overwhelmingly voting for Bernie, if he's still viable come the CA primary.



JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
5. Grass roots? Or Weed-n-feed?
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:28 PM
May 2015

The few "common folk" that she meets with are probably not just random people sitting in a restaurant. They've been selected, vetted, and will come up with the same tough questions that Chelsea might ask. Or repeat the questions they've rehearsed.

For now, it's all show-biz.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
8. Of course it's show biz. I didn't imply that it wasn't.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:35 PM
May 2015

Presidential campaigns are strategic things. My post isn't an endorsement. It's a comment on what appears to be the case. Funny that so many people see it differently.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
43. It's an open secret, like israel's nuclear program, that the few questions that are asked are pre-
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:33 PM
May 2015

screened.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. Nice observations, MM!
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:38 PM
May 2015

I appreciate your optimism and positivity!

The first couple primaries are about one-on-one retail. Meeting the candidate.

Hillary is doing it just the way she is supposed to do it!

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
11. I think Clinton is planning some sort of big rally in Iowa
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:42 PM
May 2015

soon. I don't have the details. The turnout for that will be interesting to measure, I think, even this early.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. it really sounds like a building of state to state, which i am really liking. i think we have
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:41 PM
May 2015

dropped the ball, state to state. that is cause us some problems we need to address

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
12. Well, she certainly has the funds to do that.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:45 PM
May 2015

One thing that seems to be forgotten is that local news programming in each state covers candidate visits extensively. And more people watch local TV news than any other type of news programming.

Whatever candidate comes to town, the local news team will be there to cover it. But, unless you live in that state, you won't see that coverage. Lots of things are in play that don't get discussed on DU very much.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. If she wants to win Iowa and New Hampshire, that's the way to go
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:50 PM
May 2015

I've done some fairly extensive on-the-ground work for several cycles of Democratic primaries in NH, and I think Iowa is the same. These voters expect a lot of one on one. They expect you to show up and shake hands with them at the local town shoe store, to come to the VFW pancake breakfast, to hold a town hall in their tiny town.

She doesn't need large-scale media attention because she's already been in the spotlight. She doesn't need the name recognition. And frankly, the media isn't all that friendly. She has little to gain that way and more to lose.

She's got to go bottom-up, not top-down this time, and it looks as if she has good advisors this time around making that assessment.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
16. And I'm sure she does want to win in both.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:53 PM
May 2015

As I said, it looks like she learned something from 2008. She's hired a bunch of experienced advisers, too. I think her campaign will look different from the one she ran in 2008.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
36. Grassroots will be playing n her campaign. She has lots of contacts who are
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:03 PM
May 2015

Willing to do ground work. Her poll numbers show she has backing.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
42. It's good to keep in mind that her campaign manager worked on the Howard Dean campaign
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:32 PM
May 2015

and I believe I read that she's interested in using his 50 state strategy and intends to build up local and state Democratic parties.

"[Clinton] is running not just for 2016, but for 2020 and to set up 2024," said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake. "Those are states that could be in play by 2020 or 2024."

Indeed, if the 50-state organizing effort is meant to accomplish anything, it's certainly not in securing Clinton's win in Connecticut.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/forget-the-50-state-plan-clinton-s-building-for-a-battleground-strategy-20150514
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