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sheshe2

(83,898 posts)
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:50 PM May 2015

President Obama is "Deeply in Touch with the Heart and Spirit of the Jewish People"




Jeffrey Goldberg has conducted yet another fascinating interview with President Obama. They spent time discussing three topics: ISIS, Iran and the President's relationship with Israel and the Jewish people. I was particularly struck by the depth with which the President addressed the last one.

I said in a previous interview and I meant it: I think it would be a moral failing for me as president of the United States, and a moral failing for America, and a moral failing for the world, if we did not protect Israel and stand up for its right to exist, because that would negate not just the history of the 20th century, it would negate the history of the past millennium. And it would violate what we have learned, what humanity should have learned, over that past millennium, which is that when you show intolerance and when you are persecuting minorities and when you are objectifying them and making them the Other, you are destroying something in yourself, and the world goes into a tailspin.

And so, to me, being pro-Israel and pro-Jewish is part and parcel with the values that I've been fighting for since I was politically conscious and started getting involved in politics. There’s a direct line between supporting the right of the Jewish people to have a homeland and to feel safe and free of discrimination and persecution, and the right of African Americans to vote and have equal protection under the law. These things are indivisible in my mind. But what is also true, by extension, is that I have to show that same kind of regard to other peoples. And I think it is true to Israel’s traditions and its values—its founding principles—that it has to care about those Palestinian kids. And when I was in Jerusalem and I spoke, the biggest applause that I got was when I spoke about those kids I had visited in Ramallah, and I said to a Israeli audience that it is profoundly Jewish, it is profoundly consistent with Israel’s traditions to care about them. And they agreed. So if that’s not translated into policy—if we’re not willing to take risks on behalf of those values—then those principles become empty words, and in fact, in my mind, it makes it more difficult for us to continue to promote those values when it comes to protecting Israel internationally...

But my hope is that over time that debate gets back on a path where there’s some semblance of hope and not simply fear, because it feels to me as if ... all we are talking about is based from fear. Over the short term that may seem wise—cynicism always seems a little wise—but it may lead Israel down a path in which it’s very hard to protect itself — as a Jewish-majority democracy. And I care deeply about preserving that Jewish democracy, because when I think about how I came to know Israel, it was based on images of, you know— Kibbutzim, and Moshe Dayan, and Golda Meir, and the sense that not only are we creating a safe Jewish homeland, but also we are remaking the world. We’re repairing it. We are going to do it the right way. We are going to make sure that the lessons we’ve learned from our hardships and our persecutions are applied to how we govern and how we treat others. And it goes back to the values questions that we talked about earlier—those are the values that helped to nurture me and my political beliefs...


Good Read http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/05/president-obama-is-deeply-in-touch-with.html
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President Obama is "Deeply in Touch with the Heart and Spirit of the Jewish People" (Original Post) sheshe2 May 2015 OP
Well said MaggieD May 2015 #1
Yup, all across the globe, the problem is conservatism. JaneyVee May 2015 #3
right you are. MBS May 2015 #8
uh, I think you meant the Israeli majority or Israeli Jews cali May 2015 #4
The post is about Israel MaggieD May 2015 #5
There was nothing remotely rude and you erred. cali May 2015 #6
Uh huh MaggieD May 2015 #9
You really had to go out of your way to post a rude response to that reply. bahrbearian May 2015 #11
No, the initial response was not in any way offensive, but the reply belittle it Iliyah May 2015 #14
cali sheshe2 May 2015 #19
yes? cali May 2015 #21
K & R Iliyah May 2015 #2
what remarkable, thoughtful comments MBS May 2015 #7
Excellent comments and obviously heart-felt. brer cat May 2015 #10
Excellent interview with The Most Excellent President! TY for posting this. n/t freshwest May 2015 #12
You are welcome, freshwest. nt sheshe2 May 2015 #18
President Obama makes me proud madokie May 2015 #13
Jeff "Utoya's gotta be them Moo-slims" Goldberg? MisterP May 2015 #15
KnR Hekate May 2015 #16
Brilliant comments by President Obama. lovemydog May 2015 #17
A profound message. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #20
Thank you BtA. sheshe2 May 2015 #23
President Obama is greeted by pre-school students after his remarks in celebration of Jewish Cha May 2015 #22
Sweet picture Cha. sheshe2 May 2015 #24
Our President has a loving heart and kids know it, she~ Cha May 2015 #25
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
1. Well said
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:55 PM
May 2015

The problem in my mind is not the Jewish people - it's their leadership. Kind of like the United States under Bush.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. Yup, all across the globe, the problem is conservatism.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:58 PM
May 2015

Its rightwing conservatism, no matter if its Jews, Muslims, or Christians.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
8. right you are.
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:49 PM
May 2015

At the center of every trouble spot in the world right now are hyper nationalist, racist thugs, dictators, intolerant religious fundamentalists, or all of the above, right-wingers all.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. uh, I think you meant the Israeli majority or Israeli Jews
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:58 PM
May 2015

Not all Jews live in Israel. There are almost as many Jews in the U.S., ergo their leader is President Obama.
You're conflating all Jews with Israeli Jews.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
5. The post is about Israel
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:36 PM
May 2015

I'm talking about Israel since that's what the post was about. The conflation seems to be yours.

You really had to out of your way to post a rude response on that one!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. There was nothing remotely rude and you erred.
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:45 PM
May 2015

Regardless of the OP, it's simply wrong to refer to Israelis as the Jewish People. why not just say oops, and fix it?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
14. No, the initial response was not in any way offensive, but the reply belittle it
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:14 PM
May 2015

That's my opinion.

Anywho, good read.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
7. what remarkable, thoughtful comments
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:46 PM
May 2015

I can't wait to read the original article in the Atlantic -- have downloaded that for later.
But even this summary is wonderful.
No, Pres. Obama is not perfect - but we are nevertheless very, very lucky to have this man at the helm right now. And I for one will really miss his presence in the White House when he steps down in 2017.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. President Obama makes me proud
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

The man cares, simple as that. Its not just a few things he cares about either rather its the whole of civilization.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
17. Brilliant comments by President Obama.
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

Once again. He is a deeply caring and thoughtful person. I'm grateful that I live in a time when he is our President.

Cha

(297,655 posts)
22. President Obama is greeted by pre-school students after his remarks in celebration of Jewish
Sat May 23, 2015, 05:03 AM
May 2015

American Heritage Month.", she..


Doug Mills ?@dougmillsnyt
@POTUS is greeted by pre-school students after his remarks in celebration of Jewish American Heritage Month.
6:03 AM - 22 May 2015 · Washington, DC, United States
145 145 Retweets 292 292 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/05/22/president-speaks-at-jewish-american-heritage-month-celebration/#comments

"..There’s a direct line between supporting the right of the Jewish people to have a homeland and to feel safe and free of discrimination and persecution, and the right of African Americans to vote and have equal protection under the law. These things are indivisible in my mind. But what is also true, by extension, is that I have to show that same kind of regard to other peoples. And I think it is true to Israel’s traditions and its values—its founding principles—that it has to care about those Palestinian kids."


Excellent.. mahalo, she~

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