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So many Duggar threads, I'm sorry if someone's already posted this, but I discovered it in a forum linked to on Gawker. Here's the story:
osh's counseling location was the Little Rock Training Center. He was "counseled" by the ministry of Molestor Bill Gothard in a building Hobby Lobby donated to the ministry of Molestor Bill Gothard
This is the "Old VA Hospital" referred to in the police report.
The training center was donated by Hobby Lobby to IBLP. Josh's work there would have been renovations. We know from Recovering Grace that IBLP workers often did renovations as part of their work for the ministry (the Nashville hospital is one mentioned frequently.)
"In 2000, Hobby Lobby donated a 529,717-square-foot building in Little Rock, Arkansas, to Gothard's outfit. The company had purchased this property, a former Veterans Affairs building, two years earlier for $299,000. The Institute now runs a prison ministry out of this location, providing curriculum to a faith-based Arkansas Department of Corrections program known as Principles and Applications for Life. For about a decade, according to Gothard, the Institute leased the ground floor of the building for $1 per year to the Little Rock Police Department for use as its downtown station. Now, Gothard says, the police are paying a regular rental fee." http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/hobby-lobby-bill-gothard-institute-basic-life-principles
Gothard touts former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee's name on materials promoting his "Character Cities" initiative. The two were photographed together at a private campaign luncheon in Houston in late 2007.
For years, Gothard cultivated close ties to Huckabee, an alumnus of Gothard's "Basic Seminar", and to Jim Dailey, mayor of Little Rock. With encouragement from Mayor Dailey, Gothard opened his Little Rock Training Center in an empty VA hospital purchased by Hobby Lobby and donated to Gothard's Institute.
Despite Gothard's grandiose vision, the enormous structure WAS IN POOR REPAIR and was never utilized as fully as the Indianapolis facility. Still, it served as a base for the Institute's prison ministry. Gothard quotes Governor Huckabee's support for conducting his seminars for Arkansas inmates: "I am confident that these are some of the best programs available for instilling character into the lives of people." Having gotten his foot in the door in Arkansas, Gothard combined forces with CCA, the nation's largest operator of privatized correctional institutions, to promote his intense lecture-based seminars inside more prisons." http://heresyintheheartland.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-political-reach-of-gothard.html
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msongs
(67,413 posts)hucksters all fleecing anybody that moves and has at least one cent's worth of assets
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)What are talking about? Have you gotten your websites mixed up?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)It kinda stems from the Clinton years, really hard to deny it when Bill admitted it recently.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)They love privatizations.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)And how does one make the leap that Dems love from the unsupported statement you made?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)That mass incarcerations are from the Clinton days? You should know this.
You have deliberately misunderstood. You originally said Dems love private prisons. When I asked you what you were talking about, you said that an alleged admission by Clinton supported that.
Your attempt to evade questions regarding support for your statements indicates to me that there is none.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Go back and look. I said mass incarcarations is not solely a republican thing. You must have me mistaken for another poster.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)The person posted the first response and my message replied to that.
I agree that you did not say it
bravenak
(34,648 posts)He called for an end to what he did while in office.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)Prisons.
That is what the person posted and to which I responded.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Without mass incarcerations we could not have such a big for profit prison industry. And some dems certainly do take money from for profit prisons. We are not innocent. They love the money enough to accept it and continue with crime bills that cause mass incarcerations.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)It is getting kind of sickening to see so many here espouse 'democrats do no evil'.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)We cannot solve anything by playing pretend.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)On a personal note - how are you doing bravenak?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Made it over my hump and just getting ready to start back school in the fall. Trying to bbq this summer a whole lot and doing my first term on mirt, pretty fun. How have you been? Haven't seen you around much.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Too many on DU asking for a pledge to vote against my values.
I have never had an avatar, but I put up the Bernie just to piss them off.
I read DU everyday even when I don't log on and reply.
There is one in particular (really nasty POS to long time members) I wish MIRT would send a pizza to.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I have not mad my decision on a candidate, but I know it will be the leftist candidate I can find. Pm me the name of that poster, so I can keep watch.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)I suppose it's not really part of the scandal here, but here's this huge, interesting building with nothing but a police station on the first floor.
http://www.arkansasties.com/Pulaski/Structures4/VAHospital/VAHospital.htm
Initech
(100,080 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Very.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)with the fundy tendrils that are all over the place. FRC, Hobby Lobby, Huckabee, everyone defending these pedophiles should be put under a microscope because they most likely have enough skeletons in their closets that bones will start flying out of their mouths.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)see a little dust, then move it back further, that's when the real dirt is hiding.
This is DEEP DEEP depravity about to pop out here. It's not the "liberal media" that is going to be their undoing, it's their heinous disregard for children, women and everyone that isn't as sick as they are.
I imagine this is going to go a hell of a lot deeper than even Hobby Lobby, but that's a good place to start to find misogynistic assholes. Where you find men that don't value women, you find men that don't value children, their own or otherwise, either.