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I have seen people take the Bernie Vs Hillary conflict and make all sorts of twisted knots. There is one thing I want to address, identity politics.
I am Hispanic, and I know both parties will want to court us because we are that last bits of fuel that are up for grabs. On the one hand, I am, happy Hillary seemed ready to address Immigration reform. It is a comfort considering I can get on here and read people who claim they are for "labor" demonize Immigrants. On the other hand, I am truly surprised that the GOP seems to be preparing people like CRuz, Rubio and yes, even Jeb Bush, who, to give a devil his due, has taken hits for immigration reform.
However, I have no illusions about the Latinos the GOP is promoting: they serve the GOP, which means when they get into office, they will serve the agenda of those that hate everyone, but especially minorities. To cop a riff of Hillary: No way, no how, no GOP! Yes, I will vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination, because I have no illusions that failing to vote Democrat is not AFFIRMATIVELY voting FOR the GOP. Go ahead and say otherwise, nader voters, history knows you were baited, hooked, and we ended up in the frying pan, thanks to the guy shilling for Rand Paul.
However, while I will vote for the people that represents me on the issues, I do wonder why the bloody hell the Democratic party does not have several Hispanics ready for the time ahead. Is there some sort of moratorium that says no other Democrat can be primed until such time as Hillary is president? This will bite us in the rear, as frankly, it sends a message that only a certain type of face is wanted for the democrats. The fact that some of Hillary's supporters were the ones that still have not apologized for letting Big Dawg Bill dogwhistle against blacks AND younger voters does not help.
msongs
(67,441 posts)saying goes (paraphrasing) you must be the change you want....or something like that
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I have no illusions about what campaign I can fund, but of course a snippy comment beats facts, right? I know who I will support in the primary, and who I will vote for in the general, which will make little difference to Hillary's donors as they will tell her to jettison anyone to the left of wall street overboard.
TBF
(32,092 posts)well, Julian was mayor of San Antonio (VERY well-liked) but he was tapped for HUD so he is in Washington now. They are twins, age 40. We should have more. Hillary has met with Julian (I think that was Dec. 2013 but I'd have to go back in my journal to find it - I have been following him for awhile now).
When I caucused for Obama here in the suburbs of Houston in 2008 (and went door to door) I learned that most of Hispanics preferred Hillary. She will be popular in Texas with or without Julian, but he wouldn't hurt. It isn't enough to turn Texas blue (but will be in time). I personally hope Julian is the pick for VP no matter who the pick is (and I would vote for him to be president if he ran now).