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Justin Way was in his bed with a knife, threatening suicide. His girlfriend called a non-emergency number to try to get him into a hospital. Minutes later, he was shot and killed in his bedroom by cops with assault rifles.
On May 11, Justin Way was drinking and threatening to kill himself. His father, George Way, said his son was a recovering alcoholic and had been alcohol-free for five weeks.
He just lost his job, and he had a setback, he said.
Ways live-in girlfriend, Kaitlyn Christine Lyons, said shed caught Justin drinking a bottle of vodka, which she took away from him to pour out. She said he was drunk, lying in their bed with a large knife, saying he would hurt himself with it. She called a non-emergency number in an attempt to get her boyfriend to a local St. Augustine, Florida, hospital for helpand told them she did not feel threatened.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/28/man-calls-suicide-line-police-kill-him.html
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Fuck them.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)Protected and served another valuable customer. Medals and bonuses all around!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)they always seem to think they are in danger - I remember when they shot a 65 year old woman who weighed 200 pounds and had trouble walking because she threatened them with a knife 10 years ago and I had to wonder - don't they train the police to disarm people anymore? Or maybe just back up and stay away from the person threatening?
I liked what they said on the nightly show the other day - the cop is afraid for his life, so he jumps on the hood of a carto shoot people?????
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Caspian Morgan
(85 posts)Does that mean they would be better off if he was dead? Apparently they got what they wanted. The police that is.
onethatcares
(16,184 posts)to shoot people 15 times. It's not like he was a good shot or anything.
I think the overall number of shots during that melee, which was brought about by an expired inspection sticker or some such nonsense was 142 rounds fired into the vehicle, 60 police cars involved in the chase and some really crazy protect and serve meme.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Tell me this wasn't on their mind going in.
And the "Internal Investigation" will be the usual good ole boy white wash.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)Next time you talk about "good cops" just remember that this is SOP for them too.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I worked in Fla. under the Baker Act.
We ( Mental Heath professionals) would NEVER be at the scene where cops were called.
It is the responsibility of the cops to bring the person to an emergency Mental Health site, for evaluation.
The Mental Health person would be called ( one is always on call) and go the site and evaluate.
Sometimes we would have to go to jails and/or hospitals ( usually for drug issues).
Always in a controlled environment, never out in public or in homes.
In this case, the cops could have tazed the poor guy and brought him, in cuffs, to an evaluation site.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)they would bring someone to talk them down - budget cuts?
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Denise Way, Justins mom, said that the detective relayed to her that they told Justin to drop the knife and he didntso they shot him because thats what we do.
valerief
(53,235 posts)How words change over the years.
1950 definition of police officer: a person whose job is to enforce laws, investigate crimes, and make arrests
2015 definition of police officer: someone who enjoys shooting people to death
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)samsingh
(17,601 posts)there is ZERO excuses for this
struggle4progress
(118,338 posts)http://www.news4jax.com/news/st-johns-county-investiges-deputy-involved-shooting/32947972
Probe continues into St. Johns deputies' fatal shooting of man at World Golf Village condo
Posted: May 12, 2015 - 8:55pm
... Information such as what Way did to cause the deputies to fire and why he was despondent have yet to emerge ... Sheriffs Office spokesman Cmdr. Chuck Mulligan said more details may come out soon as the agency decides whether to release the 911 call, the names and backgrounds of the deputies and other information. But Mulligan said the deputies apparently had a reason to fire simultaneously. Obviously both deputies felt threatened, Mulligan said ...
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2015-05-12/story/probe-continues-st-johns-deputies-fatal-shooting-man-world-golf-village
911 call in St. Johns deputy-involved shooting reveals despondent suspect had just lost job
By Derek Gilliam & Dan Scanlan
Wed, May 13, 2015 @ 7:06 pm
updated Thu, May 14, 2015 @ 6:11 am
... Justin Edward Way was armed with a machete-like serrated knife when Deputies Kyle Braig and Jonas Carballosa entered through a door his girlfriend said was unlocked and shot him in the chest and abdomen during the confrontation, the Sheriffs Office said. Braig, 32, joined the Sheriffs Office eight years ago, and Carballosa, 26, joined about a year ago, a spokesman said ... The woman tells the operator that Edwards lost his job Friday and keeps telling her goodbye ... She initially thinks he is asleep in a spare bedroom but realizes he has what she describes as a sword in his hand ...
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2015-05-13/story/911-call-st-johns-deputy-involved-shooting-reveals-despondent-suspect
Caspian Morgan
(85 posts)You should never, ever call the police in the USA when someone you love has a knife. It's a death sentence.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)"i felt threatened"
"he reached for his pants"
"etc etc etc etc"
All over used excuses that in a few cases are valid but hopefully with enough lawsuits, cops will start wearing cameras to protect themselves and it will help all of us against them.
This poor man and woman? What a damn shame and no. I do not trust "they both felt threatened".
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