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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:58 PM May 2015

California’s Snowpack Is Now Zero Percent of Normal aka.. "Shit just got real"

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California’s current megadrought hit a shocking new low this week: On Thursday, the state’s snowpack officially ran out.

At least some measurable snowpack in the Sierra mountains usually lasts all summer. But this year, its early demise means that runoff from the mountains—which usually makes up the bulk of surface water for farms and cities during the long summer dry season—will be essentially non-existent. To be clear: there’s still a bit of snow left, and some water will be released from reservoirs (which are themselves dangerously low), but this is essentially a worst-case scenario when it comes to California’s fragile water supply.

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The state knew this was coming and has been working to help soften the blow—but they’re fighting a losing battle. Bottom line: 2014 was the state’s hottest year in history, and 2015 is on pace to break that record. It’s been too warm for snow. Back in April, Gov. Jerry Brown enacted the state’s first-ever mandatory water restrictions for urban areas based mostly on the abysmal snowpack. In recent days, the state’s conservation efforts have turned to farmers—who use about 80 percent of California’s water.

With a burgeoning El Niño on the way, there’s reason to believe the rains could return soon—but not before October or November. The state’s now mired in such a deep water deficit that even a Texas-sized flood may not totally eliminate the drought.

Welcome to climate change, everyone.


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It's going to be a rough ride.
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California’s Snowpack Is Now Zero Percent of Normal aka.. "Shit just got real" (Original Post) Agschmid May 2015 OP
As you say, the shit just got real. PatrickforO May 2015 #1
next 4 months critical Backwoodsrider May 2015 #2
Long term, they are going to have to move to less water intensive crops... daleanime May 2015 #6
yeah but will they move to less Thirsty crops Backwoodsrider May 2015 #18
It got real a while ago nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #3
Well it seems the rest of us are beginning to notice. Agschmid May 2015 #5
It's going to be a horrific summer. herding cats May 2015 #4
The weather is now almost entirely the result of man made global warming.. mountain grammy May 2015 #7
Is it too late to start being a prepper? Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #8
even preppers need water SoCalDem May 2015 #13
I wonder how many of those folks thought they had a house or place they could sell to retire? jtuck004 May 2015 #9
That's why you won't see me buying in Miami... Agschmid May 2015 #11
The only people being mandated to conserve ads up to a whopping 8% onecaliberal May 2015 #10
Then it shouldn't be legal to raise animals in California either bhikkhu May 2015 #14
+1,000!!! nt baran May 2015 #16
Beef cattle use more per pound than almonds. nt Hekate May 2015 #17
Lets hope we are not all reduced to taking yuiyoshida May 2015 #12
I can already barely feed my family. Stryst May 2015 #15
This is not good. Enthusiast May 2015 #19
there is only 1 for sure in all this Backwoodsrider May 2015 #20
El nino. Igel May 2015 #21
it has been quite real for quite some time. niyad May 2015 #22
I think out here on the east some of us don't quite get it. Agschmid May 2015 #23
perhaps being in the west gives us a very different perspective. niyad May 2015 #24
Heartbreaking to see the dry brown hills that used to be green Pooka Fey May 2015 #25
I think this is a warning sign as we approach the tipping point. MohRokTah May 2015 #26
The Central Valley produces, or at least used to, around 25% of the nation's food. libdem4life May 2015 #27

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
2. next 4 months critical
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:36 PM
May 2015

Wonder how the farmers are going to do? All I have heard is scare tactics in the media but how are the farmers going to get through this they going to grow any this year or give the land a rest? What about fires?

El Nino is already doing its thing up here with a damp mild Oregon coast so I expect the wet times will start this fall in California too but that will probably be only a short term solution. We used the water up and it looks like climate is changing to a frier California so heavy rains might not fall to begin to fill up the aquifers. I do not know what we can do about such a large number of people that we have drank the water tables dry.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
6. Long term, they are going to have to move to less water intensive crops...
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:02 AM
May 2015

short term, there's really not much that can be done.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
18. yeah but will they move to less Thirsty crops
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:37 AM
May 2015

Or keep the appetite and try and buy water from us in Oregon? Going to find out sooner instead of later I am afraid.....

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
4. It's going to be a horrific summer.
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:39 PM
May 2015

I'm hoping the El Nino will provide some relief this fall and winter. Until then it's going to be a rough ride.

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
7. The weather is now almost entirely the result of man made global warming..
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:04 AM
May 2015

and it will be a rough ride for sure.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
13. even preppers need water
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:22 AM
May 2015

we need to leave fields fallow and be prepared to pay higher grocery prices..

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. I wonder how many of those folks thought they had a house or place they could sell to retire?
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:13 AM
May 2015

Going to be rough in a lot of different ways.

onecaliberal

(32,898 posts)
10. The only people being mandated to conserve ads up to a whopping 8%
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:14 AM
May 2015

Of water used in California. When farming uses 90%+ of the water and are not doing a damn thing different, let's just day shit is more than real. It should NOT be legal to grow Almonds in this state as well as some other crops. The country needs to get real about farming other places and someone needs to stop all the farmers in California from using the last drops of water people need to survive on growing almonds.

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
14. Then it shouldn't be legal to raise animals in California either
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:33 AM
May 2015

...as their water needs per ounce of meat produced are far larger than any plant crop. I imagine there are plenty of industries and habits that might be singled out.

yuiyoshida

(41,861 posts)
12. Lets hope we are not all reduced to taking
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:19 AM
May 2015

the kind of showers, where you get wet, than turn the water off.. soap down, and then get wet again. (While Rich people in their hot tubs soak, and play in their swimming pools.)

Stryst

(714 posts)
15. I can already barely feed my family.
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:50 AM
May 2015

And while the Republicans do everything they can to fight climate change, part of the bread basket just started desiccating, which is going to raise the price of food. And what do they do to relax after all this climate change denial? Try to cut my food stamps.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
21. El nino.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:56 AM
May 2015

"There's reason to believe" isn't the same thing as "it's a sure thing."

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2989

For many, though, the mention will be met with relief and calls to do nothing. One of those tough calls: If you don't mention it and it happens, you're a nay-sayer and doom-mongerer. If you do mention it, you cut yourself off at the knees. Mostly because most people are into what Kahneman calls "quick thinking" and are, well, innumerate in addition to having abysmal statistical intuitions.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
23. I think out here on the east some of us don't quite get it.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

Articles like these are good to read.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
25. Heartbreaking to see the dry brown hills that used to be green
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:08 AM
May 2015

and covered with wildflowers while growing up in the state.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
26. I think this is a warning sign as we approach the tipping point.
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:09 AM
May 2015

We're getting dangerously close to the point where we will no longer have any ability to reverse runaway global climate change.

We are toast the moment the Gulf Stream is altered.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. The Central Valley produces, or at least used to, around 25% of the nation's food.
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:21 PM
May 2015

There's going to be a lot of idle snowboards...and all of the golf courses need heavy watering...tourism and sports bring in a lot of income to California. If you drive into CA on I-40 you can see that Southern and Mid are mostly desert, till you get to the Redwoods and the wetter Northern California climate. But that's dry as well now.

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