apparently, the giddy voters love it in Kansas, it would seem. KS keeps voting the same diabolical fools back in, over and over.

Answer that, and I'll ask about the next state on my list, Wisconsin.

Extreme low to no information voters who think they are smart.

I used to live there.

I just don't get how wrong republicans can be and the general population just goes along for the ride.

The past election cycle where the polls and the reported results of the election were pretty much at variance is a pretty good indication that it's not possible right now for a Dem or Indie to get elected.

Somewhere along the line, I believe he discovered or was told that he or somebody else could maliciously program the machines. In addition to that, he's discovered that if you have the power, you can do whatever you want with regard to suppressing the vote and thus preventing some voters from voting, everything from voter ID laws to "cross-check" methods, the latest refinement of the Katherine Harris methods used to limit the election to the proper type of voters. Political crime is pretty much the accepted modus operandi at the moment.

Of all the things people get pissed about, THIS is the stuff they should be pissed about.

WTF are people not getting all amped up about it?

That sounds like an old fashioned political machine. Boss Pendergast would be awed.

I totally agree with you. And this points out the difficulty Sanders faces, too many people having no idea what they're voting for except what they hear on T.V. Very sad, and pathetic.

I keep trying to tell folks here, I like Bernie a good bit, will vote for him and support him.

But, my skepticism about his campaign is no about HIM.

Its about US, and the stupid runs pretty damn deep these days.

"What's the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America," by Thomas Frank.

It is a great book, but the contradictions and absurdities it discloses gave me headaches.

"What's the Matter with Wisconsin" would make a good sequel. Knowing what Wisconsin used to be, it brings my heart to see what the Koches and Walker have done to it.

Republicans are fraudulent assholes that hate Americans. Their fear of the voting booth is quite clear and that is where the crisis stands.

...to explain to Kansans how wonderful things are there.

And Obama follows the Kansas example to toss Scalia and thomas off the Supreme Court. Will be hard for the GOP to argue with Obama using their own strategy that they believe to be perfectly acceptable!

A fantasy I know.... But a guy can dream.

A court was on track to ruling the Detroit bankruptcy as being against the state Constitution (which in fact was), so they stripped the power to rule on that issue from the court and moved it to a different one.

... in which the virulent disease of unrestrained conservative corporatism is allowed to devour its host. Witness the total destruction of representative democracy as its fragmented remains metastasize into Fascism v.2.

Home of the Koch-suckers, Kansakistan...

It's an example of all the bad that can and will happen it this experiment is duplicated in other states or nationally. We've had 30 years of them working at it nationally, and we are almost as screwed as Kansas.

It takes action to insure the disease doesn't spread.

created Brownbackistan.

common sense and file a suit against the legislature to find out if any if these hypocrites went to any ALEC bribery functions, like they are doing, in lets say Georgia and across the U.S.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/investigations/2015/05/21/investigators-legislators-and-corporate-lobbyists-meet-in-secret-at-georgia-resort/27695105/


Apparently the media in the state of (Kansas) is failing in there job description

Now, Kansas you have one legislative branch attacking the judicial branch-----------and you folks have just gotta ask, what do you do when you go completely BOZO and have a full blown clown show. Your stuck with these hypocrites until the next election cycle unless you have recall process.

Just think outside the box, Kansas, the MILLIONS of dollars from which your little bunch of right wing republican hypocrites are subjecting you too with this lawsuit, you could have had this money being spent on education for starters..............but............ in your world view if they have a R in front of there name you vote for them............even when they are gutting your constitution and social fabric................good job.

Toto was correct and still correct when he told Dorothy: your on your own, I'm OTTA here.

I'm going to Minnesota they have more common sense, when you compare your state and the clown show in the other failed state called Wisconsin (Walkerstan)

Kansas is showing us the re-run of the essential principle behind Reaganomics. If an ounce of rat poison will kill you, a pound of rt poison will make you all better. The more they fail, the harsher they become. If cutting social services funding did not solve the budget crisis, we should slash them even further.

World is nigh! Ignorance creates fear, religion is the cure, the opium of the masses.

It doesn't matter, like you say, if they fail, or if people get killed or hurt, or they commit horrendous crimes in the process, they will never be held accountable because having power is everything.

something I wrote in another thread here. I hope that is ok with you. It is a response not directly to you but to others posting.

Before I do, I want people to remember that there were challenges to this last election. Many people think that Davis won, he should have according to many polls. The votes were never released for scrutiny.

For people who have forgotten or never knew
that the Koch brothers live here. One with the business mostly and the other lives here and runs those businesses from Kansas. These freaks started working on this state many years ago. They learned here. I became aware of them in the 80's, god knows how long they had been quietly messing with things before that. A slow job but they learned their lessons here then began to spread out. Wanna know what is really wrong with Kansas? One mega buck family with a huge corporate influence slowly infiltrating thought and manner in a small area where most of the state sees and hears little outside of what they were telling them. They got that group, figured out what works, and moved from there. Everyone wants to call this state stupid, well yes we are and this is why. If you don't like what is happening where you are then don't spend any amount of energy calling the test group stupid, they never saw what was coming, you know what it is. Stop it. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED, you get to see the how and why and the results. Many people here were nursed at the breast of this family. There was no other voice and why is that? Where were the other voices to counter them? Oh yes, in your more important states. We could have used some support here, ya know? We were not always like this. Sebelius was elected because she was very conservative for the most part and she was running against a freak show that would be considered mainstream now. We were already almost gone then. 

I know every state is getting some of this and some a lot of this but the Koch brothers do not sit in the rooms and meet with your legislators before each big vote. There is not a brother sitting in the room watching the votes. ALEC may be everywhere but Charles Koch is meeting personally here. It is almost impossible to see a way out at this point. 

Do not let your states get Brownbacked. 

One other caution. NEVER allow your party to ignore the "insignificant" states. This is what happens when only one side is represented. So NOW you think we are important, a lot too late and it is not like the party was not warned.

***It is Charles that lives here, after all this I still get them mixed up. 

Kansas is in extremist hands for the same reason the Iraq war happened and Ebola became a national panic over 3 fatalities.

America is one nation, under Media. It is like a game for them...how much CAN we control public opinion?

Ebola was scary only because it proved that the media still has control of Idiot America.

by Mary Brownbacks family for many years. It was sold to an out of state organization but one, I think only one, of Mary's brothers is still on the editorial board. That is the Topeka paper. There are many good journalists who have done heroic jobs exposing as much as possible in this paper and around the state. I will say, I have yet to hear a radio station in the state where the talk isn't still practically about lining up liberals and shooting them. I have heard that adorable line several times just from Topeka close to where I live. Media is only part of the problem. No money from and no presence from the National party leave our candidates running on mostly their own money when the other side has Koch funding. The only time we were actually competitive with national slots was with Dean and the 50 state strategy. Since then it has shut back down.

The "family values" dipshits got three of the Iowa Supreme voted out of office when their retention votes came up in 2010 for voting to allow same sex marriage. Didn't work quite so well in 2012 though and the other three held their seats.

- or drive drunk.

If they can do it to Detroit, why not for Kansas?

That would be such an interesting case. I'd love to see where the RW felonious five would come down on this? Would they favor the KS crazies (Scott tried to do something similar in FL, but failed), or would they stand up for the judges?

and I don't think we have the money to fight anything else. There are at least 2 or 3 issues that could become a problem for us already that need fighting in a higher court. No money, nada, zip. We gave it all to the rich people and they aren't sharing.

Imagine if a president could remove a justice he or she didnt like and it was a president YOU didnt agree with?

I live in Wisconsin...it's already here. Scott Walker and Sam Brownback are basically the same guy. Brownback is probably a little smarter though, which maybe makes him more dangerous.