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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBlackwater trained ISIL militant Colonel Khalimov - Why?
Being over 50, I have lived through interesting realities of American history like Reagan / Bush selling arms to Iran (thereby supporting both sides of the Iran/Iraq conflict) and diverting the proceeds to support the "contras" war against the democratically elected Sandinista government in Nicaragua. Or the revelations of the Church commission, of the news media being stocked with CIA agents for the purpose of shaping public opinion. Or the proud admission by Kissinger (on edit: Brzezinski) that he helped organize al Qaeda for the purpose of weakening the Soviet Union (his finest or proudest hour, I can't remember which he called it). Or the ugly connections between the "School of the Americans" training of Latin American paramilitaries in torture and fear tactics to the eventual implementation of those techniques on nuns and community organizers and political activists on the left in the subsequent years. Or.. Well, you get the idea.
So when I hear our government confirm that Blackwater gave extensive special forces training to a man that is now an ISIL commander, General Khalimov, I think "That's interesting. Wonder what the real story is?"
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/30475-us-state-department-confirms-they-sponsored-training-of-isil-militant
Did Khalimov wake up one day and, of his own volition, decide to defect to the other side of the "fight against terror"? Or is the story more complicated? I wouldn't lay money on any one theory, because they all seems somewhat plausible...
Interesting: http://fortressamerica.gawker.com/meet-the-elite-u-s-trained-special-forces-chief-who-ju-1707536367
..OMON, Khalimovs SWAT-style special forces unit in Tajikistan, received millions of dollars annually from Defense Department counterterrorism and counterdrug programs for training and equipment, including bullet-proof vests, special helmets, masks, binoculars, and weapons. The U.S. ambassador to Tajikistan in 2013 proudly boasted that Tajik OMON officers took training in the United States last year and showed high professionalism.
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Oops! Khalimov just decided to change sides, like the story said.. | |
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Complicated: he was a gun hired and trained to infiltrate ISIL, needs an Oops! cover story | |
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Complicated: selected and trained to be a thorn in the side of the Soviets, got lost on the way | |
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Complicated: Blackwater Erik Prince profits by working both sides of the party | |
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Complicated: crazy rogue hawks left behind in government by neocons find ISIL useful | |
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Complicated: other | |
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Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Btw you left out the obvious possibility.
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)I meant to factcheck myself on that and forgot. What is the most obvious possibility?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The loyalties are only to tribe or religious sect, not to a nation founded by imperial powers from the past or UN decree, with arbritrary drawn borders. And at best, the U.S. can only RENT their alliance, at great cost, and only for as long as it suits their purposes. As soon as the situation changes, and it changes often, then their loyalties quickly shift to whatever other offer is most favorable to them.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)"an officer of the primary counterterrorism unit which responds to terrorist threats in Tajikistan,... so he and other members of his unit were recommended for the program by the Tajik government."
he also received training from the Russians.
he originally got into the counterterrorism training here in the US via the bush admin.
It seems he's a very effective infiltrator.
Does he do it for money? For ideology? Because he can?
I'd rather not try to get "into" his mind. Just...ewwwwww.
The above quote is from my post in another thread about this. The link to my post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6761122
woodsprite
(11,923 posts)Blackwater won't do a damn thing unless someone pays them. Trace the root of this to some government entity (State, DOD, CIA, etc).
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)There's a reason why Blavkwater folded and Prince moved operations to Dubai.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)in which we are all props.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)RIGHT FUCKING NOW NO TIME TO THINK JUST GO IN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war_in_Tajikistan
the next month:
because we have to back the throat-cutting ultra-Salafists against secular dictators RIGHT FUCKING NOW NO TIME TO THINK JUST GO IN
so the training was because they're short-sighted, and the eternal and self-aware persistence of that shortsightedness is because both sides are profitable
there! cut that Gordian Knot for evybuddy