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wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:50 PM Jun 2015

A Tidal Wave Of Good News In Iowa: Hillary Clinton Soaring and Obama Beloved by Democrats

There’s nothing but good news in a new Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll conducted May 25-29 of likely Democratic caucus-goers.

Starting off with asking likely Democratic caucus-goers to rate their feelings from very favorable, mostly favorable, mostly unfavorable, or very unfavorable about prominent Democrats, President Obama topped the list of 89% favorable to 9% unfavorable.

But obviously he is not running for office again, so let’s dig into what the future looks like right now. Here’s how 2016 looks: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rated 86% favorable to just 12% unfavorable and Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) 47% favorable to 12% unfavorable.

Who do you want for President? Contrary to what the media keeps reporting, there’s a clear front-runner and very popular candidate in Hillary Clinton, with 57% of Democrats choosing her as their first choice, with a strong 16% choosing new-comer to the race Bernie Sanders. This means that all of the “scandals” and faux controversies/conspiracies about the Democratic front-runner have had no impact on the Democratic base in this poll — in fact, Clinton is up one point from January.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/01/good-news-poll-obama-beloved-iowa-dems-hillary-clinton-soaring.html

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A Tidal Wave Of Good News In Iowa: Hillary Clinton Soaring and Obama Beloved by Democrats (Original Post) wyldwolf Jun 2015 OP
I can't read this enough. Thanks for posting. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #1
From the poll numbers ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #6
Sshhh! You might upset the balance of DU with all that fact finding and such. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #7
In the internals if you include second choices it's HRC -70% Bernie 29% DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #9
And the problem is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #10
I believe you are correct, sir./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #11
Joni Ernst nt msongs Jun 2015 #2
Speak up don't hold back upaloopa Jun 2015 #3
The billionaires are working to brake the bubble of freedom and liberty of the people. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #4
She isn't a likely Democratic caucus goer. cyberswede Jun 2015 #8
"contrary to what the media keeps reporting" Enrique Jun 2015 #5
Wow...one more time! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #12
further evidence DU's vocal majority is extremely underrepresented in the Dem party wyldwolf Jun 2015 #13
. ucrdem Jun 2015 #14
I have seen this posted several times. TM99 Jun 2015 #15
"But hey, pesky facts and all." wyldwolf Jun 2015 #16
We shall see if my TM99 Jun 2015 #17
Again, you're mistaken about what 'facts' means. wyldwolf Jun 2015 #18
Not mistaken TM99 Jun 2015 #19
Is 'truthiness' a FOX term as you claimed? Yes or no? wyldwolf Jun 2015 #20
Typical of your type. TM99 Jun 2015 #22
my type? wyldwolf Jun 2015 #23
I eschew the insults and hold all our candidates in high regard but the last two graphs ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #21
Then why hold the election nichomachus Jun 2015 #24
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. From the poll numbers ...
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jun 2015

If Bernie picked up ALL the non-HRC picks, and HRC held steady, HRC wins ... and the fact that (also from the poll) HRC is still picking up numbers, it looks good for Team HRC.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
7. Sshhh! You might upset the balance of DU with all that fact finding and such.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015


I realize DU is the echo chamber to beat all echo chambers, but reality does have a way of seeping in from time to time.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
9. In the internals if you include second choices it's HRC -70% Bernie 29%
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

That suggests to me the senator needs to change a lot of Hillary supporters minds to make a good showing.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. Speak up don't hold back
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:02 PM
Jun 2015

You can't stand a little reality?
That Bernie bubble is going to break before the general.
Reality hurts when you live in a bubble.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. The billionaires are working to brake the bubble of freedom and liberty of the people.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jun 2015

Sad that some are rooting for the billionaires.

Sen Sanders may not be able to overcome the billion plus dollars expected to be invested by the billionaires or the snubbing of the oligarch-media, but it's a little early to gloat. He will have given the Populist Movement a tremendous boast to fight the dominance of Goldman-Sachs and the Wall Street Gang.

Vote for the People's candidate, Sen Sanders.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. "contrary to what the media keeps reporting"
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jun 2015

"Hillary Clinton is the front runner"

Did I just read that? PoliticusUSA is actually telling me that the media is NOT calling her the front runner?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Wow...one more time!
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jun 2015

A Tidal Wave Of Good News In Iowa: Hillary Clinton Soaring and Obama Beloved by Democrats

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
15. I have seen this posted several times.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jun 2015

What I find interesting is that no one seems to have read the dates. Between May 25-29 was last Monday through Friday. This is BEFORE Sanders campaigned there to great success over the weekend.

I will be more interested in seeing what the polling looks like THIS week, June 1-5, AFTER his stellar weekend in Iowa, where this occurred:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/us/politics/challenging-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-gains-momentum-in-iowa.html

And as I was writing this I notice that this is already occurring.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/bernie-sanders-first-choice-iowa-democrats

Sanders has already gained 10 points in 'first choice' and another 10 points in favorability. Clinton remains unchanged.

This is great news for the Sanders campaign and bad news for the Clinton compared to just last week's poll numbers.

But hey, pesky facts and all.

wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
16. "But hey, pesky facts and all."
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jun 2015

Your reply is based on a theory, truthiness. No facts there. How many points does your gut tell you Sanders has swung polling since last week?

And as I was writing this I notice that this is already occurring.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/bernie-sanders-first-choice-iowa-democrats

Sanders has already gained 10 points in 'first choice' and another 10 points in favorability. Clinton remains unchanged.


That's quoting the same poll.

"The Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register poll released Monday found that 16 percent of Iowa Democratic caucus-attendees say Sanders would be their first choice, up from 5 percent in January. By contrast, 57 percent of Iowa Democratic Iowa caucus-attendees said former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D) would be their first choice and just 2 percent picked former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D). The finding for Clinton is virtually unchanged from January"

So after all the faux scandals that did't sway Democrats at all in their opinion of Clinton, you're celebrating? You and yours have a lot of minds to change.



 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
17. We shall see if my
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:09 PM
Jun 2015

theory based on new facts holds true.

Enjoy your smug while it lasts.

And if you don't want to be treated as an asshole, it might behoove you to stop throwing around Fox terms like truthiness and such at fellow liberals and progressives.

I already know that I won't be voting for Clinton no matter what. But had I been undecided and willing to just hold my fucking nose, the shit I have seen this week alone from Clinton supporters tells me all the fuck I need to know about Clinton.

No thank you to both!

wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
18. Again, you're mistaken about what 'facts' means.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015
And if you don't want to be treated as an asshole, it might behoove you to stop throwing around Fox terms like truthiness


Sure. Fox News term.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
19. Not mistaken
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jun 2015

Fact - this is last week's poll.

Fact - Sanders had a stellar weekend in Iowa.

Fact - Iowa Dem Party contacted Clinton campaign to let them know.

Fact - He is up 10 points across the board as of Monday.

Fact - Clinton's numbers are unchanged.

Speculation - It will be interesting to see what this same poll from last Monday through Friday says at the end of this week.

Not a big TV watcher - sorry don't know my insulting memes.

Still cut out the insulting bullshit.

wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
20. Is 'truthiness' a FOX term as you claimed? Yes or no?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:35 PM
Jun 2015

What 'insulting bullshit?' That I pointed out you expressed a theory based on a poll that hasn't been taken yet and called a it a fact which prompted me to call it'truthiness?'

It's the very definition of truthiness.

Truthiness is a quality characterizing a "truth" that a person making an argument or assertion claims to know intuitively "from the gut" or because it "feels right" without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.


wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
23. my type?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

I didn't ignore anything you wrote. I plainly pointed out you presented your theory as a fact.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
21. I eschew the insults and hold all our candidates in high regard but the last two graphs ...
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jun 2015

I eschew the insults and hold all our candidates in high regard but the last two graphs are very revealing:





That suggests Hillary is the first and second choice of 72% of likely IA Democratic caucus voters. Bernie will have to convince many HRC supporters to abandon her to make a good showing. That seems challenging to me.





nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
24. Then why hold the election
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:52 PM
Jun 2015

Just polish her crown and move on. Save us all some time and money. All hail the queen of Wall Street.

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