that's what's next, you know

denying that, and making it out to be some sort of sin, is denying reality.

How he went about satisfying that curiosity is depraved but for the girls to believe he was "too curious" denies biology. And only props up the theory that they were heavily coached.

Reality check: teens are horny.

I'm thinking the Duggar family homeschooling curriculum skipped basic biology lessons.

I can still recall very vividly the feelings that were present at almost all waking moments(and some sleeping ones). Teenaged boys are a huge bundle of hormones that they have some problems at times controlling , they are driven by this to a very high extent and are definitely curious as hell, and very much want to explore these drives. If they are taught as youngsters the "facts" of life and are also taught the difference between what is and isn't acceptable behavior most of them, actually a large percentage of them will respect the boundaries that have been laid out for them... I know I was and did, but I also know that there are and were a lot of young girls in that same age bracket that were as curious and were willing to join in on some "exploration", it is as stated by others a perfectly normal thing...


BUT.... touching without permission especially while they were sleeping and had no real say or control is absolutely WRONG...That entire family is totally twisted and seems to have no real concept of anything that is acceptable out in the real world, the girls seem to have been brainwashed and taught that what the "family" accepts as normal is really quite ok and have no idea that it is wrong and twisted on so many levels as to be mind boggling to most of the rest of society..

That's why frank conversations from parents and/or sex education goes a long way to help teens understand and navigate the changes in their bodies.

After the experience with Josh, I hope that the parents had "the talk" with each and every one of their children before and during puberty but I doubt it happened.

They don't know any better than to say that.

Give them a break.

rather than one or two sisters, influences inappropriate behavior in a teenage boy.

Mom dad 3 girls and 2 boys.
Going to camp and being clothing optional at home and in the pool. There was never any reason for boys or girls to be curious about the other sex.
Maybe our puritanical society is not ways the best way to raise kids.
No, seeing adults and kids naked does not drive kids mad or make them want to jump each other's bones.

You don't say! No wonder every brother bangs his sister

Yes, I get they're sheltered and brainwashed, but they're in their 20s now, time to open their eyes and live in the real world.

the big picture/reality.

It is not their fault. They have not had access to counseling or have had any normal role models. They were brainwashed from day one... that is a shitload to overcome.

This is not about the victims, but about those who failed to protect them and/or perpetuated the abuse.

why the girls were sleeping fully clothed? Doesn't pass the smell test.

Pants on girls are The Devil's Clothing, you know.

Brought up by a warped man that is accused of sexually assaulting 34 women. NOT talking about the mom and dad, but the actual man that runs the cult!

There are a few articles on Gawker.com about the Duggars I encourage everyone to go look for and read...it kinda explains all this sickness and depravity - the lies and promises told by a fundie's fundie.

what would their reaction be?