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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:43 PM Jun 2015

Florida charter school shuts down during school day. No buses to get kids home.

Even the website was down. The students were in the middle of testing. The same charter company closed another school one day later.

But here's the kicker...there is no law to keep them from taking even more public money from public schools and opening another charter school.

Fred Grimm: Failed charter schools can always come back for more

Two weeks ago, the kids who attend Acclaim Academy in Jacksonville discovered that their charter school no longer existed.

The Florida Times-Union described how classes had come to an abrupt and unexpected end, no matter that the 250 students were in the midst of end-of-school year testing. The children came to class to discover school employees were packing up supplies. The school website was down. There were no buses to transport pupils home that afternoon.

Another ignoble experiment in Florida’s barely regulated charter school education had gone kaput, leaving 250 students in the lurch. Apparently the charter operator didn’t have enough money budgeted to finish out the school year. To hell with the kids.

One day later, the same operator shut down another Acclaim Academy, this one housed in a former Target store outside Orlando, leaving 181 kids on the outs with just three weeks left in the school year.


The article points out that local districts were left with the mess, though they had no say in any of it. Imagine having to watch these charter schools waste the money that is taken from district public schools.

And another shocker is who owns these schools.

Both schools were run by Corey Alston, the former city manager of South Bay in Palm Beach County, who just happened to plead guilty to grand theft last year for running up personal charges on his city-issued credit card (Alton received six years probation). His criminal record has no bearing on whether he can run a charter school operation. Not in Florida.


Taxpayer money is being given to someone with a known criminal history. It doesn't matter if he wants to run a charter school in Florida.
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Florida charter school shuts down during school day. No buses to get kids home. (Original Post) madfloridian Jun 2015 OP
Time and time again, we see this with charter schools shenmue Jun 2015 #1
And I agree. madfloridian Jun 2015 #5
I say we should regulate them ... nikto Jun 2015 #19
Kicking AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #2
Edyoocatin by the seat of the pants. lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #3
Rick Scott is taking great pleasure in depriving so many of health care. madfloridian Jun 2015 #4
charter schools are a straight up scam KG Jun 2015 #6
^This^ SoapBox Jun 2015 #10
Once this happens, administrators of these schools Exilednight Jun 2015 #7
So much agree. That's how it should be. madfloridian Jun 2015 #27
If this kind of nasty stuff did not happen on a daily basis, I would think I had moved. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #8
It's the Jeb Bush legacy. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #9
K & R Thespian2 Jun 2015 #11
Even with this atrocious record . . . gratuitous Jun 2015 #12
And both parties are calling for more charter schools even as this stuff goes on. madfloridian Jun 2015 #14
I know...we used to have people fighting against this.... KoKo Jun 2015 #43
It defies logic. They_Live Jun 2015 #13
Now and then... madfloridian Jun 2015 #15
Way to go, Obama! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #16
wow Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #17
He deserves to hear the hounds closing in on him as he runs like a dog through the Everglades. NBachers Jun 2015 #18
lol madfloridian Jun 2015 #22
Three weeks left? Good God, did they have to go to July? When I was a kid school let out silvershadow Jun 2015 #20
The article is dated May 13, but I just found it. madfloridian Jun 2015 #21
Whoops. I didn't notice that. lol my bad. silvershadow Jun 2015 #23
We get out on the 23rd here Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #26
All charter schools are sleazy and the folks gopiscrap Jun 2015 #24
Well, most of them are KamaAina Jun 2015 #46
K&R Scuba Jun 2015 #25
Kicking this because unregulated charters are still the policy of both parties. Not just GOP madfloridian Jun 2015 #28
Take the money and run! Florida charter schools... Sancho Jun 2015 #29
They don't even have to run. Just open another school...no problem. madfloridian Jun 2015 #33
You can't imagine the issues I've seen in Pinellas...charters come and go every week. Sancho Jun 2015 #34
I see your recently dismissed super is now head of all NY schools. madfloridian Jun 2015 #35
Yea, she was a closet Gates and Rhee proponent.... Sancho Jun 2015 #36
I posted about it, got a few NYers questioning it...but it's just the new normal. madfloridian Jun 2015 #38
I think the previous post on Elia is on target: NY should watch out for charters... Sancho Jun 2015 #39
Worked with Rhee on transitioning Scott's campaign. madfloridian Jun 2015 #44
K&R Those parents need to be leading the charge against charter schools. riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #30
Trouble in Galt's Gulch Elementary? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #31
The school system is a joke here in Jax NightWatcher Jun 2015 #32
I think the school grade is given by the one test score. Correct me if wrong. madfloridian Jun 2015 #42
They have come up with so many scams to loot the Treasury it is just unbelievable. CrispyQ Jun 2015 #37
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #40
Thanks, WillyT madfloridian Jun 2015 #41
It's getting crazier. Check out this charter mess.... Sancho Jun 2015 #45
If this happens in New Orleans next year, the kids will have no place to go KamaAina Jun 2015 #47

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
1. Time and time again, we see this with charter schools
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jun 2015

I say, don't let them have any more, until they are regulated.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
3. Edyoocatin by the seat of the pants.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:49 PM
Jun 2015



I would like to say I am appalled but I have to consider this is Rick Scott's Florida.

So I can't be too surprised.


madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. Rick Scott is taking great pleasure in depriving so many of health care.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jun 2015

I think there is evil in him.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
7. Once this happens, administrators of these schools
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jun 2015

Should be banned from working in the education field. If they can't run a "better" school, then they shouldn't be allowed to run any school.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
27. So much agree. That's how it should be.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jun 2015

Florida has no such rules though, and I wonder if other states are more careful?

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
8. If this kind of nasty stuff did not happen on a daily basis, I would think I had moved.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:09 PM
Jun 2015

In Florida everybody has a story and it's never good.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. It's the Jeb Bush legacy.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jun 2015

He instituted the voucher program, diverting public school funding to these fly-by-night schools.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
11. K & R
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jun 2015

RSnot and the Repukians have turned Florida into an International Joke...and they love doing it...because... they can...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Even with this atrocious record . . .
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jun 2015

The charters can keep dropping their bucket into the public well for another load of sweet, sweet moolah. Because contracts. Meanwhile, public employees who put in a career in public service find their pensions unfunded, slashed, and the only advice the Republicans offer is, "Well, you should have a different career. Nothing but a moocher, looking for your contractual benefits."

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
14. And both parties are calling for more charter schools even as this stuff goes on.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:16 AM
Jun 2015

No one is taking responsibility for the harm being done. Dead silence out of DC.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
43. I know...we used to have people fighting against this....
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jun 2015

Where did they go?

So many issues that have "fallen by the wayside." We just can't get anyone who cares, anymore.

The Duggers are so much more important. But, that they are shows how we are just being run by "MSM Outrage of the Day" about these peoples serious family issues ...that led to them being some kind of CELEBRITIES on Some Cable Channel...which most in America seem to think is the Hugeist Issue on their Plate.

Look...I'm glad the Dugger Families hypocrisy has been Exposed....and it's probably Important to Moving Citizens Forward to understanding that what you see PROMOTED is often the dark underbelly of the Religious Right and it has its Place.

But why can't we focus on MORE THAN ONE ISSUE AT A TIME? And, why is EVERYTHING so CORPORATE MEDIA PROMOTED
that it confuses people these days as to WHICH & WHAT ISSUES are REALLY DRIVING all of this.

I apologize for SHOUTING.......I'm really needing a break from this these days. But, it's all too Important to not expose.

They_Live

(3,236 posts)
13. It defies logic.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jun 2015

I couldn't think up a more twisted pathetic scenario if I tried, and even if I did, no one would believe it. Preposterous. Bungling thieves have taken over. They have no talent, not even being talented thieves.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
15. Now and then...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:18 AM
Jun 2015

Arne Duncan or some Dem leader will speak up and say oh we only want "good" charter schools.

But no one is changing the rules...they just keep allowing the same stuff over and over.

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
18. He deserves to hear the hounds closing in on him as he runs like a dog through the Everglades.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:51 AM
Jun 2015

If the skeeters don't get him, then the gators will.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
20. Three weeks left? Good God, did they have to go to July? When I was a kid school let out
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:06 AM
Jun 2015

usually between the 10th and the 15th of May. SMH. (Oh, and the charter school stuff I don't even flinch at anymore, it's all just a big scam).

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
26. We get out on the 23rd here
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:11 AM
Jun 2015

Snow days were used a lot this year and has impacted a lot of regions because of it.

But we also don't start in the fall until after Labor Day.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
46. Well, most of them are
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

some are actually run by people from the communities they serve and offer specialized curricula like art or Hawaiian immersion.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
28. Kicking this because unregulated charters are still the policy of both parties. Not just GOP
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jun 2015

And public schools are being deprived of these resources given to these unregulated schools.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
29. Take the money and run! Florida charter schools...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jun 2015

It's happening all over the state.

Rick Scott is the worst governor ever. A new education commissioner every few weeks, and none of them have a clue.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. They don't even have to run. Just open another school...no problem.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jun 2015

Usually one party or the other will stand up against such outrages. But there is really no one speaking out this time.

Arne and Obama say they only want "good" charter schools....but there is no enforcement.



Sancho

(9,070 posts)
34. You can't imagine the issues I've seen in Pinellas...charters come and go every week.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jun 2015

I don't think the younger folks realize what they lost with no more tenure contracts, vouchers, charter schools.
What a mess Rick Scott and the legislature have made with the DOE!

Obama has been a disappointment on education. In the early 80's, I worked for Richard Riley (2 term Governor of SC and Clinton's Secretary of Education). He was so much better than Arne or anyone recently - and came from a crazy conservative state, but still got a lot done. He would not consider vouchers and charter schools.

In Tampa, Gates and Rhee have taken over everything, but there's a bit of a revolt with the teachers.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-05-25/story/after-duval-charter-school-closes-many-ask-wheres-money
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/plato-charter-school-to-open-in-pinellas-park/2225798
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/pinellas-charter-schools-come-under-scrutiny/2198333
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/pinellas-charter-schools-new-lottery-leaves-parents-searching-for-spots/2193044
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/as-florida-charter-schools-grow-critics-watch/2207658
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/to-open-in-hillsborough-charter-schools-need-to-clear-the-gates/2225128
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/pinellas-county-charter-schools-growing/2159351

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
35. I see your recently dismissed super is now head of all NY schools.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jun 2015

What's the story with Elia...wasn't she brought in with the Gates money? I have heard one person say she was fair, others that she wasn't. But NY grabbed her up with no hesitation.

Have you got a take on that?

BTW bookmarking to read your links.Thanks.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
36. Yea, she was a closet Gates and Rhee proponent....
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jun 2015

she came up through the ranks, and at first was well liked. Recently, the teachers got tired of the crazy evaluation system, spending money on "projects" while cutting special education, etc. She also replaced Principals with abandon. I think the Gates money turned her to the dark side. She had Michele Rhee visiting and advising a few times too.

In the last couple elections, school board members warned her about the teachers being unhappy, with no visible effects on minorities from MILLIONS of extra money. They got tired of it and voted 4-3 to fire her.

Meanwhile, she can be impressive to talk to, so NY state picked her up. Haha, Florida could use a good state commissioner!

We'll see how she does up there. I'm curious too.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
39. I think the previous post on Elia is on target: NY should watch out for charters...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jun 2015

she will likely promote the charter agenda.

Arnie and Obama bought into "bash the teacher". Neither one really supports collective bargaining either.

Some CBA's with teachers say that IF you have a VAM score or low rated school, the Principal must all suffer the same fate of any teachers - and district statistics must "improve" or you can't blame the teacher. That way, it's much harder to non renew teachers arbitrarily. If a states doesn't have a union contract, the teachers are on their own.

Hillsborough teacher fought back in the CBA and in court over the new evaluation program - and it frustrated Elia.

I think Elia is an insider with Rhee, Gates, and Scott.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
44. Worked with Rhee on transitioning Scott's campaign.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jun 2015

This paragraph really worries me, should worry NY

She served as a transition advisor to Florida Gov. Rick Scott alongside former Washington, D.C., education Chancellor Michelle Rhee. She also designed and implemented a merit pay system for teachers.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
30. K&R Those parents need to be leading the charge against charter schools.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jun 2015

wake up parents!!!

What a travesty

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
32. The school system is a joke here in Jax
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jun 2015

and we're trying to find a good place for our little one to start kindergarten after next year.

Everything near us is D or F rated, which means we can elsewhere, but I'll have to drive her across town for a decent chance.

The charter schools here remind me of the failed banks from Georgia five-ten years ago. People find a way to exploit a system and take advantage before it all comes crashing down.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
42. I think the school grade is given by the one test score. Correct me if wrong.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jun 2015

So that might be making many schools look bad even if they are not. Also they are making EVERY student take the test now. There have been articles about it. One story about a blind boy forced to decide which picture fit best is ridiculous. Those scores count.

Here's one article:

Parent of dying boy has to prove her son can’t take standardized test (update)

(Update: It is with sadness that I report that Ethan Rediske passed away on Friday, Feb 7, 2014.)

Andrea Rediske’s 11-year-old son Ethan, is dying. Last year, Ethan, who was born with brain damage, has cerebral palsy and is blind, was forced to take a version of the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test over the space of two weeks last year because the state of Florida required that every student take one. His mom has to prove that Ethan, now in a morphine coma, is in no condition to take another test this year.

Ethan wasn’t the only brain-damaged child in Florida to be forced to take a standardized test; I have written in the past about Michael, another Florida boy who was born with only a brain stem — not a brain — and can’t tell the difference between an apple and an orange, but was also forced to take a version of the FCAT last year. (See here, here and here.) There are many others in Florida and across the country as well.

Why does Florida — and other states, as well as the U.S. Department of Education — force kids with impaired cognitive ability to take standardized tests? Because, they say, nearly every child can learn something and be assessed in some fashion. Even, apparently, a boy born without a brain.


Here's another

http://neatoday.org/2014/03/05/high-stakes-testing-for-disabled-students-a-system-gone-horribly-wrong/


Sancho

(9,070 posts)
45. It's getting crazier. Check out this charter mess....
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.ohio.com/news/local/charter-school-company-summit-academy-management-sues-teachers-who-quit-1.598685?localLinksEnabled=false

Charter school company Summit Academy Management sues teachers who quit

Joel Kovitch quit his teaching job in 2013, a month into summer vacation — plenty of time, he thought, for his employer to replace him.
He said he enjoyed teaching physical education and health at three Akron-area charter schools run by Summit Academy Management. It was demanding and rewarding to work with mostly special-needs students, he said.
“It was kids who fell through the cracks.”
He resigned not because he was unhappy, but for a better position.
That’s when it got ugly at Summit Academy.
“They flipped out,” he said.
“I was just trying to better my family,” Kovitch said, thinking of his wife, his toddler son and the job offer in Richmond Heights, where he now makes $10,000 more and has greater job security.
He gave his two weeks notice, and a month later, an attorney for Summit Academy Management filed a lawsuit against Kovitch for breach of contract. He would be the first of 19 teachers to be sued, collectively in the past two years, for $28,900 — the amount the company alleges it cost to replace them.
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