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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:21 AM Jun 2015

How many women here are Bernie supporters?

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Check in if you don't think voting for Bernie Sanders is voting for "white male rule".


ETA: all feminists are welcome to post - don't be shy guys, I want to hear from everyone!

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How many women here are Bernie supporters? (Original Post) beam me up scottie Jun 2015 OP
Best candidate for women in the race marym625 Jun 2015 #1
Thanks, marym625! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #3
Technical Note: HRC was not an elected official when 'welfare reform' was up KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #67
She is given great credit for things she supported when Bill was president. djean111 Jun 2015 #134
It's funny how she only takes credit for things that were successful. Exilednight Jun 2015 #203
True marym625 Jun 2015 #170
Deep down, people with the misfortune to require public assistance don't matter to KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #174
yep marym625 Jun 2015 #175
Likewise women make up the majority of Walmart workers. What was done for them when appalachiablue Jun 2015 #314
I just hope that's not something we have to worry about marym625 Jun 2015 #319
I'm pulling for Bernie and believe he can make it. The neoliberal and neocon systems appalachiablue Jun 2015 #322
He WILL make it marym625 Jun 2015 #323
Yes he will make it, Positive Thinker! Did you see the OP in Video on the new woman appalachiablue Jun 2015 #328
Go for it! marym625 Jun 2015 #329
+1 beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #501
this old lady wants him. He's the best candidate. I want the roguevalley Jun 2015 #320
+1000 marym625 Jun 2015 #321
Agreed passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #326
You said it, roguevalley! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #500
Me! n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #2
Woot! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #4
I really like Bernie! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #5
Hi CaliforniaPeggy! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #6
Me three! mimi85 Jun 2015 #64
My s/o likes Hillary too. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #75
Bernie Sanders represents me as a woman more than any other candidate I can remember in a long time. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #7
Good to know we agree on Bernie, sabrina 1! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #9
i would probably vote for Sanders over Hillary but i think a lot of the threads by some who claim JI7 Jun 2015 #8
I don't hold stupid threads against Hillary supporters. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #12
Claims of support are often used as part of a characterization ploy. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #179
There is a concerted effort on DU by some to try to undermine support for Bernie. cui bono Jun 2015 #201
Link doesn't work Aerows Jun 2015 #400
Weird. Works for me. cui bono Jun 2015 #407
Oh, okay! Aerows Jun 2015 #412
There is more than one DUer claiming to be a Sanders supporter yet constantly cui bono Jun 2015 #200
+1-- I've noticed this, too. Marr Jun 2015 #283
Yes. I'm not so sure it's divide and conquer though that's part of it. cui bono Jun 2015 #312
Astute as always Aerows Jun 2015 #402
That is one of the memes we see a lot AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #356
My hand is up! Marie Marie Jun 2015 #10
Holla! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #13
Supporting Bernie along with many of my women friends marlakay Jun 2015 #11
"He's for the working people and he's not rich." beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #15
I like him, probably will vote for him in the primary. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #14
I don't believe that either. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #16
Don't you mean..... dflprincess Jun 2015 #534
Yeah, caucus. Easier to say primary than explain caucus. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #536
You can count me. While I would love to see a woman POTUS, HRC isn't who I'd want to be it. scarletwoman Jun 2015 #17
I don't base my vote on gender either. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #18
You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend Aerows Jun 2015 #403
I've been a Bernie fan for awhile. stage left Jun 2015 #19
+1 glinda Jun 2015 #23
His appeal is universal. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #24
He's got grit. stage left Jun 2015 #50
Yo. mahina Jun 2015 #20
:) beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #25
I am a women and I support Bernie betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #21
Agree with everything. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #26
This >>> "We think it will be easier to defend women's rights when we aren't being crushed rhett o rick Jun 2015 #262
hand up glinda Jun 2015 #22
Hey glinda! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #27
I don't care about any 'white male view' Nite Owl Jun 2015 #28
Me either! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #30
Me! I love Bernie! woodsprite Jun 2015 #29
Outstanding! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #32
Me. madfloridian Jun 2015 #31
You were here all along, madfloridian! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #33
As a woman, I think Bernie will be a better President for women daredtowork Jun 2015 #34
I understand completely. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #36
Here we go again question everything Jun 2015 #35
Chill. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #41
I think you meant to post that in reply to another OP... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #49
Oops! haikugal Jun 2015 #88
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #95
Huh? stage left Jun 2015 #87
I'm supporting Sanders, but I understand your perspective. deurbano Jun 2015 #101
Thank you for a well thought and reasoned reply question everything Jun 2015 #185
the vast majority of. Bernie supporters cali Jun 2015 #122
Oh, thank you thank you so much question everything Jun 2015 #358
Um, no. This is about the supporters not the candidate. cui bono Jun 2015 #204
What an odd response. The OP is asking women to speak out if rhett o rick Jun 2015 #269
"I wonder how many Bernie supporters would do the same if Hillary is the candidate." unapatriciated Jun 2015 #295
Sanders is a Zionist dlwickham Jun 2015 #310
You say that like it's a bad thing. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #317
I said being a Zionist is a plus with me dlwickham Jun 2015 #335
It's also a dog whistle for anti-semitists, google the word and his name. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #338
he is a Zionist dlwickham Jun 2015 #340
How does he describe it? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #341
you're the Bernie supporter dlwickham Jun 2015 #349
He doesn't use the word at all. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #350
Bernie speaks to me & I support him. pacalo Jun 2015 #37
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #42
I am. enlightenment Jun 2015 #38
I like them too. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #45
I'm supporting him! historylovr Jun 2015 #39
Hi historylovr! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #47
Me. For one thing I think it is sexist to assume that all males white or other are anti-woman's jwirr Jun 2015 #40
It is very sexist. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #51
Me. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #43
Agree with everything you said. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #44
You said what I was thinking. Kali Jun 2015 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #96
Sure she does. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #59
I could not agree more with MuseRider Jun 2015 #176
Seeing what I'm seeing here later, I feel bad about it, too. I'm deleting. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #192
I am in his camp at the current time. Kali Jun 2015 #46
Hey Kali! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #60
Hey, and good night! Kali Jun 2015 #66
check roody Jun 2015 #48
! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #62
I'm a supporter of the Metric guy, but Bernie comes second... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #52
LOL! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #63
Bernie - gladly. 840high Jun 2015 #53
Thanks, 840high! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #65
Count me! haikugal Jun 2015 #55
I want a bumpersticker that says "Hayburners for Bernie!" for the hoss trailer. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #68
Hayburners for Bernie! HA! haikugal Jun 2015 #78
I'm a woman for Bernie. Been a woman all my life, have only sisters, no brothers, JDPriestly Jun 2015 #56
I appreciate your post. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #73
I have been harassed in the workplace, discriminated against throughout my life, and JDPriestly Jun 2015 #107
WELL SAID, JDPriestly. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #109
'We women have more serious issues to deal with than stupid words ...... sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #181
meh, I can discuss language and its usage AND the other political issues that concern me. Kali Jun 2015 #228
It is basic respect, and there is way too little of it- bettyellen Jun 2015 #337
Stop it bettyellen. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #339
The slurs are used and excused to continue personal fueds too. bettyellen Jun 2015 #344
Yes, I am aware of that. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #346
Absolutely! -none Jun 2015 #234
I won't chime in because the text of your post is decisive and unnecessary. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #58
How so? n/t Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #71
Okay. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #74
"Decisive"? Do you mean "Divisive"? - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #82
Decisive, divisive... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #98
I am female. SamKnause Jun 2015 #61
Yes we do! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #77
me! LittleGirl Jun 2015 #69
He does that. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #79
He's got my truegrit44 Jun 2015 #70
Awesome! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #80
I suppoort Bernie. He says what the majority of Americans believe. napi21 Jun 2015 #72
And he means it. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #81
Voting for anyone at this point is voting for a continuation of white male rule Warpy Jun 2015 #76
It's silly season again. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #84
No shit Warpy Jun 2015 #90
Warpy, if I could beam up you think I'd be here? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #93
Warpy, think of the next 18 months here as Theater of the Absurb sarge43 Jun 2015 #241
I support Bernie Sanders because he supports what I believe in, Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #83
True, no candidate is perfect. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #86
Count me in! flor-de-jasmim Jun 2015 #85
Consider yourself counted, flor-de-jasmim. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #91
me movonne Jun 2015 #246
Woman, last I looked. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #89
LOL! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #92
>>standing up for Bernie<< me b zola Jun 2015 #94
Hello, me b zola! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #97
Hiya BMUS! me b zola Jun 2015 #102
You said it, friend. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #103
I'm in all the way for Bernie Sanders! But will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. secondwind Jun 2015 #99
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #100
I am feeling the BERN! Pastiche423 Jun 2015 #104
Bern down the house! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #105
Me! nt tblue Jun 2015 #106
Hi, tblue. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #110
Count me in! Petrushka Jun 2015 #108
3 generations, that is fantastic! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #111
I can't wait to get out the vote for Bernie. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #112
Wow. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #114
I'm female and Bernie comes the closest by far CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #113
To me as well, Charlotte. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #116
i like him BUT ..... I SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON trueblue2007 Jun 2015 #115
That's cool too! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #117
I'm not going to get into Hilary Bashing - I just like Bernie better FreakinDJ Jun 2015 #118
Not necessary. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #119
+Bernie! Cause war is not healthy for children & other living things Divernan Jun 2015 #120
I've always loved that poster! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #121
Me rainy Jun 2015 #123
Hi rainy! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #124
I like Hillary, but I love Bernie as my candidate! Ilsa Jun 2015 #125
Ikr? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #126
I support Bernie A Little Weird Jun 2015 #127
Awesome name, A Little Weird! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #128
:) A Little Weird Jun 2015 #288
I have to say I'm leaning towards Bernie. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #129
He's hard to resist. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #131
Beamie, I don't know who thinks that, but I'd sure rather vote for him... countryjake Jun 2015 #130
I hear you, countryjake. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #132
Feel exactly the same way about you! countryjake Jun 2015 #135
Oh, ain't that the truth. Abortions should be "rare"? Makes me cringe every time. We Nay Jun 2015 #171
Me! And my sister, and her daughter as well... ms liberty Jun 2015 #133
He just gets better with age. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #138
The gender of a candidate is not even on the table, when i choose to support a candidate. djean111 Jun 2015 #136
No kidding! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #139
BERNIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LiberalElite Jun 2015 #137
Oh yeah! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #140
Ooh! Oooh! Me! Heddi Jun 2015 #141
ZOMGWTFBBQ! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #142
Do I know you?? Heddi Jun 2015 #143
I told you before. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #145
I'm on the bus going to work Heddi Jun 2015 #146
I've partied in Philly, a lot. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #149
I am voting for him gollygee Jun 2015 #144
It's still early in the game. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #147
He has time gollygee Jun 2015 #148
Love this thread! Lars39 Jun 2015 #150
LMAO! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #152
I support Bernie and I'm betting he'd get a good laugh out of the notion. Vinca Jun 2015 #151
Bra Burners for Bernie! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #153
Another bumper sticker! haikugal Jun 2015 #334
I vote on issues first, so I'm a Bernie supporter whathehell Jun 2015 #154
Good to hear! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #157
You bet.. whathehell Jun 2015 #164
Bernie is the best candidate for We, The People in the race! peacebird Jun 2015 #155
For all of us, yes! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #359
Over here... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #156
I see you! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #360
Wow, didn't think this would be such a hit! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #158
I'm a guy, my apologies for butting in madokie Jun 2015 #159
:-) MuseRider Jun 2015 #178
You're not butting in at all, madokie! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #256
I appreciate the thanks madokie Jun 2015 #302
Sanders speaks a human language. ananda Jun 2015 #160
Yes, this. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #361
Go Bernie Go TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #161
And he's one of the best! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #362
Count me in Boomer Jun 2015 #162
Okay! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #364
Me!!! smokey nj Jun 2015 #163
Hi smokey! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #365
I'm here. nt LWolf Jun 2015 #165
Hello LWolf! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #366
. LWolf Jun 2015 #510
The best candidate I've seen in the race this far is Bernie Sanders - TBF Jun 2015 #166
Vermont is fortunate to have him. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #367
Bernie Sander, I believe, is the best candidate for all genders Sienna86 Jun 2015 #167
I would love to see the right woman president. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #368
I'm leaning heavily toward Bernie. cwydro Jun 2015 #168
A vow of revenge. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #261
Wow. cwydro Jun 2015 #306
I am. I've always been more interested in who will be the most progressive Nay Jun 2015 #169
Thanks, Nay. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #369
I am a woman who supports Bernie IVoteDFL Jun 2015 #172
Hi IVoteDFL! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #370
I would dearly love to cast a vote for a woman MuseRider Jun 2015 #173
I certainly understand wanting a woman to be president. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #272
Even my very cynical son MuseRider Jun 2015 #285
me!! dorkzilla Jun 2015 #177
Awesome! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #371
Count me in NV Whino Jun 2015 #180
^^^This^^^ beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #372
Somebody said that? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #182
Of course! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #373
Me too. N/t Chiquitita Jun 2015 #183
Thanks, Chiquitita! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #374
I support Bernie and I am a woman mylye2222 Jun 2015 #184
I know better, mylye2222 beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #375
I do, I do! (Support him, I mean) PotatoChip Jun 2015 #186
LOL! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #376
me n/t mithnanthy Jun 2015 #187
Hi mithnanthy! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #377
I'm on the Bernie bus. hedda_foil Jun 2015 #188
I'm no spring chicken either, hedda. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #378
Count Me In. Hiraeth Jun 2015 #189
A belated welcome to DU, Hiraeth! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #379
I LOVE BERNIE! He talks about all the right things. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #190
Thanks, SaranchaIsWaiting! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #380
ME!!! I will vote for the best PERSON. Bernie is that person. Avalux Jun 2015 #191
Yup. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #381
FEEL THE BERN!!! cui bono Jun 2015 #193
Hey cui bono! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #382
39,647 exactly! L0oniX Jun 2015 #194
+1 beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #383
Count me in n/t OhioChick Jun 2015 #195
Done! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #384
Onboard for Bernie! Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2015 #196
Change is good. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #385
Ohio Checking In!! jen63 Jun 2015 #197
Hey Ohio! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #386
Spent 15 years there. jen63 Jun 2015 #513
If you're going to post a meta thread about me BainsBane Jun 2015 #198
Oh please. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #264
Glad to hear it. Then delete the quote you took from my OP BainsBane Jun 2015 #426
Scottie should have used the whole sentence. IN CONTEXT! Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #508
If you'd like, BB... OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #275
Ya know, butting into positive threads to insult people is an assholish thing to do. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #280
I don't get it BainsBane Jun 2015 #427
I think you do get it, actually. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #511
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #423
Have I told you how much I love you lately? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #433
Right back atcha. Hope you don't mind me posting in your thread!~ Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #492
Not at all, everyone is welcome! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #494
Lifetime Yellowdog LGBT minority female for Bernie here. Zorra Jun 2015 #199
Right. Fucking. Now. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #318
Bernie is the best! FOR EVERYONE! TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #202
Indeed! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #387
It's the policies, not the person. Hell, we voted in the cool black guy... polichick Jun 2015 #205
Yes we did. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #388
I absolutely support Bernie Sanders!! n/t KarenS Jun 2015 #206
Cool! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #389
Black Irish female supporting Common Sense Sanders. blm Jun 2015 #207
Common Sense Sanders! SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #311
Common Sense Sanders! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #390
Checking in and enthusiastically raising hand n/t Oilwellian Jun 2015 #208
Noted! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #391
I am rooting for Bernie! Left coast liberal Jun 2015 #209
Bullwinkle for Bernie! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #392
Female Bernie supporter here. Hun Joro Jun 2015 #210
I hope Warren runs next time. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #393
I totally agree! Hun Joro Jun 2015 #502
I'm All In For Bernie! colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #211
This: "not being afraid to take a strong stand" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #394
Bernie is the most Faux pas Jun 2015 #212
Humane humans for Bernie! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #395
... Faux pas Jun 2015 #540
Me catchnrelease Jun 2015 #213
Agreed. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #396
My wife is "all in". SmittynMo Jun 2015 #214
It's great when you can both get behind the same candidate. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #398
Me !!!! Melissa G Jun 2015 #215
He won't throw anyone under the bus! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #401
Welll... Melissa G Jun 2015 #514
He's going to make them push the bus! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #524
Count me in jopacaco Jun 2015 #216
Consider yourself counted, jopacaco! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #405
As much as I'd love to finally see a woman president, I will not vote for any woman. DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2015 #217
Yep. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #408
Normally I don't do "check in if.." threads, but BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #218
Merci beaucoup, BlancheSplanchnik! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #274
de nada! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #352
K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #219
Thanks, L0oniX! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #409
Being a white male doesn't mean he's against women... Spiggitzfan Jun 2015 #220
Thanks for posting, Spiggitzfan. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #286
Bernie has my support aintitfunny Jun 2015 #221
Exactly! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #411
Bernie's the best candidate dgibby Jun 2015 #222
I hope Warren runs next time around. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #413
I'd rather vote for a white Jewish male socialist than intheflow Jun 2015 #223
Me too, intheflow. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #414
me too. :) Duppers Jun 2015 #224
Hi Duppers! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #415
I love Bernie kpete Jun 2015 #225
Careful, kpete! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #416
#feelthebern shanti Jun 2015 #226
YES! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #417
Count me in. n/t Triana Jun 2015 #227
Done! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #418
I am! I can't wait to vote for him. GnashvilleCat Jun 2015 #229
Hello GnashvilleCat! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #419
I do support Bernie as my first choice LadyHawkAZ Jun 2015 #230
I don't support it either. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #276
Another for Bernie who doesn't care about gender, race, religion. antiquie Jun 2015 #231
None of it matters to me. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #420
Bernie! Loryn Jun 2015 #232
Thanks, Loryn! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #421
Bernie is the best candidate out there for ALL of us. 1monster Jun 2015 #233
No doubt about it! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #422
Bernie! Jean Genie Jun 2015 #235
I hate those guys. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #424
*hand raised* bunnies Jun 2015 #236
*waves to bunnies* beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #425
I'm married to an old white guy, but I can't vote for one because sarge43 Jun 2015 #237
Fearless.Yes. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #428
count me in NJCher Jun 2015 #238
Done! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #443
Woman here. I've had XM radio since it first launched in about 2001 (IIRC) . I LOVED Air America! PearliePoo2 Jun 2015 #239
I've been a Bernie girl for decades. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #444
Initially yes, however... demmiblue Jun 2015 #240
I like what I hear about O'Malley too. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #267
I am a woman, I would prefer Bernie, I do not hate Hillary, and I'll happily phylny Jun 2015 #242
I don't hate her either. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #429
I am in for Bernie. He's going to fire up young people imo Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #243
That's great to hear! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #430
I am a woman and I am supporting Bernie. Curmudgeoness Jun 2015 #244
Well, hello there! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #431
I don't know you, but I do know your little critter. Curmudgeoness Jun 2015 #512
Me. narnian60 Jun 2015 #245
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #432
Me katmondoo Jun 2015 #247
Got it! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #434
I am 100% for Bernie Sanders MissDeeds Jun 2015 #248
You said it! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #435
Voting for Bernie is not voting for "white male rule" DebbieCDC Jun 2015 #249
Oh, absolutely! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #436
bernie nastynaven Jun 2015 #250
LMAO! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #437
63 year old white woman here rhiannon55 Jun 2015 #251
"Give 'Em Hell, Bernie!" - LOVE IT! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #438
I am a Bernie supporter! Chemisse Jun 2015 #252
Hi Chemisse! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #439
Me! nt ncliberal Jun 2015 #253
Gotcha, ncliberal! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #440
Both hands up and waving with enthusiasm! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #254
*waves enthusiastically back at riderinthestorm* beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #442
As the only true progressive zentrum Jun 2015 #255
Well said. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #445
I'm a woman who is voting for Bernie passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #257
Thanks, passiveporcupine! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #446
I'm a woman who is voting for Bernie passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #257
Deja vu! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #447
Bernie is such a womanizer... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #259
LOL! He'd get a laugh out of that! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #448
... Mira Jun 2015 #260
Thanks, Mira! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #449
Bernie is alright with me. notadmblnd Jun 2015 #263
And me! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #450
Growing up in a family dominated by females... Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #265
Isn't that just the way? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #451
My wife doesn't hang out on DU but she gave me permission to say navarth Jun 2015 #266
Tell your wife she rocks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #270
Now there's a coincidence! navarth Jun 2015 #336
Me! BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #268
Hey Me! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #452
I am a Bernie supporter. hardcover Jun 2015 #271
Thanks, hardcover. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #453
dear god, where did that come from? I'm going to vote for Bernie in our primary. CTyankee Jun 2015 #273
80 years old, female, voting for what I believe in and therefore voting for Bernie. Thirties Child Jun 2015 #277
Thanks, Thirties Child. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #290
Your name, 'Thirties Child' is wonderful! appalachiablue Jun 2015 #333
Thanks. Thirties Child Jun 2015 #354
He has my support, 100%. nt nc4bo Jun 2015 #278
Mine too, nc4bo! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #454
It's no coincidence that it's corporate candidate supporters who are trying so hard to divide with Marr Jun 2015 #279
Nope. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #455
I am not a woman who supports Bernie, but... immoderate Jun 2015 #281
Hello, immoderate! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #456
I'm a Bernie supporter. I've donated twice so far. nt valerief Jun 2015 #282
Thanks, valerief! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #457
Well, I've actually donated more if you count previous years. It's important valerief Jun 2015 #506
That's a very good point. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #509
I Support Bernie, Helping the Poor is More Important McKim Jun 2015 #284
Yes. Everything you just said. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #458
Yo! A woman checking in here for Bernie! Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2015 #287
Hey M_o_L! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #459
Hey there! Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2015 #518
Gen-X Feminist for Bernie! myrna minx Jun 2015 #289
Xcellent, myrna minx! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #460
ME A woman & Bernie Supporter! Rockyj Jun 2015 #291
Ha! I think so too, Rockyj! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #461
Bernies's pretty much got my vote at this point in time. 2banon Jun 2015 #292
More debates would be helpful. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #463
I am a gay male for Bernie. m-lekktor Jun 2015 #293
Hi m-lekktor! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #303
Checking in as an old woman supporting Bernie. Paka Jun 2015 #294
Wonderful, Paka! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #441
I'm with Bernie lark Jun 2015 #296
Hi lark! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #464
Hi beam lark Jun 2015 #516
Me MerryBlooms Jun 2015 #297
Hey, MerryBlooms! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #465
One more feminist for Bernie! Daemonaquila Jun 2015 #298
Awesome, Daemonaquila! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #468
Count me in! blondie58 Jun 2015 #299
Counted, blondie58! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #469
Bernie supporter, here. japple Jun 2015 #300
Thanks, japple! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #471
Voting and supporting Bernie in the primaries unapatriciated Jun 2015 #301
Good to know, unapatriciated. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #473
I am! volstork Jun 2015 #304
Hi volstork! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #474
(raises hand) AllyCat Jun 2015 #305
*waves to AllyCat* :) beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #475
Present and accounted for swilton Jun 2015 #307
Thanks, swilton. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #476
that would be me. nt grasswire Jun 2015 #308
Hi grasswire! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #477
Late to the thread, but I'm female and I'm backing him! eom Fawke Em Jun 2015 #309
Cool name, Fawke Em! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #478
Me! octoberlib Jun 2015 #313
Hey! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #479
Me PADemD Jun 2015 #315
Hi PADemD! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #480
Me! a la izquierda Jun 2015 #316
100% beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #481
I'm a "Sanders Girl". Bernie running for President is a dream come true for me. sueh Jun 2015 #324
And me! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #482
Me vive la commune Jun 2015 #325
Thank you, vive la commune. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #483
I'm a woman, and I support Bernie n/t radhika Jun 2015 #327
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #484
ALL of them. joanbarnes Jun 2015 #330
All of us, yep! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #485
Me! truebluegreen Jun 2015 #331
Hi Me! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #486
Love Bernie! My abelenkpe Jun 2015 #332
Me too! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #487
I am. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #342
Thanks, tblue37! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #488
I love Bernie. Even though I deplore Hillary's hawkishness and her ties to corporations and big tblue37 Jun 2015 #515
Checking in with enthusiasm! n/t femmedem Jun 2015 #343
Great! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #489
Self-hating misogynists, all of you! IronLionZion Jun 2015 #345
LMAO! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #347
LMAO nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #348
I'm backing Bernie dflprincess Jun 2015 #351
That is great to hear, dflprincess! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #490
This message was self-deleted by its author DocMac Jun 2015 #353
Me Liberalynn Jun 2015 #355
Thanks! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #491
185 recs and at the top of the Greatest... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #357
I can't see it on the Greatest, delrem Jun 2015 #466
It's been more than 24 hours. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #467
Thanks, I was wondering the reason. delrem Jun 2015 #470
It sure is. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #472
Bernie will get this old lady's vote njlib Jun 2015 #363
Thank you, njlib! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #493
Me! (nt) Ino Jun 2015 #397
Thanks, Ino! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #495
Female Aerows Jun 2015 #399
I know exactly what you mean. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #496
i do not. MFM008 Jun 2015 #404
Uh oh. Someone's not FEELIN THE BERN! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #497
retired female here; supporting Sanders though I will Nevada Blue Jun 2015 #406
No, I agree with what you said. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #498
I am. Lunabell Jun 2015 #410
Thanks, Lunabell. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #499
I just have to kick this. KICK TO THE TOP! delrem Jun 2015 #462
Count this old lady in. nruthie Jun 2015 #503
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I let my brain and my heart decide my vote, not my uterus Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #505
Brava, Pooka Fey. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #507
Kick edgineered Jun 2015 #517
Thanks, edgineered! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #523
Bernie completely lost me when in an appearance on MSNBC ecstatic Jun 2015 #519
Road apples. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #521
I'm a woman and I want Bernie CrawlingChaos Jun 2015 #520
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I see what you did there CrawlingChaos Jun 2015 #527
I am! choie Jun 2015 #528
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Count me in. malokvale77 Jun 2015 #530
Three generations, counted! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #531
I am woman. Hear my Bern. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #532
Bern baby Bern! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #533
Feel the Bern! AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #535
She won't be hoggin that lane for long... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #538
Not voting in response to gender Marrah_G Jun 2015 #537
Thanks, Marrah! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #539

marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. Best candidate for women in the race
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jun 2015

No two ways about. Unlike another that voted for welfare reform and threw even more women into poverty. Sanders has a clean, wonderful, record when it comes to women. And everything else for that matter

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
67. Technical Note: HRC was not an elected official when 'welfare reform' was up
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:40 AM
Jun 2015

for a vote. She spoke out publicly in favor of welfare reform, IIRC, and has never recanted her position AFAIK. But she did not vote for it per se.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
134. She is given great credit for things she supported when Bill was president.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:59 AM
Jun 2015

That's one of the things she supported when Bill was president.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
170. True
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:36 AM
Jun 2015

And thanks for the correction

She has never said anything but it was the right thing to do and never did anything to fix the problem.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
174. Deep down, people with the misfortune to require public assistance don't matter to
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:43 AM
Jun 2015

her type. I've seen it so many times before, too many to count. We mean nothing to her, nor did the 1,000,000+ dead Iraqi civilians she was willing to sacrifice for her ambition.

Pardon me while I

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
314. Likewise women make up the majority of Walmart workers. What was done for them when
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:42 PM
Jun 2015

the Candidate was on the W board? Bernie is the best one in the race for people and the country. If HRC is the nominee however, she has my support, no question.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
319. I just hope that's not something we have to worry about
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:01 PM
Jun 2015

And until it happens, though I doubt that it will, I am going to support and push for Bernie and make sure every truth about Hillary is shared

The Walmart one is an excellent one I actually forgot about. Thanks!

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
322. I'm pulling for Bernie and believe he can make it. The neoliberal and neocon systems
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

are bearing down fast, so it's a pivotal time we're in as is clear.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
323. He WILL make it
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jun 2015

And our lives will start to get better. It will take a while, but it will happen!

#BernieBounce

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
328. Yes he will make it, Positive Thinker! Did you see the OP in Video on the new woman
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jun 2015

elected mayor of Barcelona, Spain- Ada Colau? She's a housing activist, populist and real fighter supported by the Indignados movement that rose up like Occupy. What inspiration! She's like Bernie and visa versa. Someone should post it in the Sanders Group.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017270209

marym625

(17,997 posts)
329. Go for it!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:50 PM
Jun 2015

Post it.

No, I hadn't seen it but I will watch it now.
Actually, I will watch later. Been using my phone too long tonight and now I can hardly see.

Thank you for linking it!

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
320. this old lady wants him. He's the best candidate. I want the
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jun 2015

best candidate. Gender isn't a consideration for me. If someone is saying not to vote for him because he's a man, SHAME ON THEM. Just because Hillary is a woman and we're overdue does NOT make her better. That is crap. BERNIE all the way.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
326. Agreed
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:35 PM
Jun 2015

I was put in my place for mentioning that her being a woman was one of her best assets in this race.

Another old lady here, who would love to see a woman president, but the right one. When we have a woman who is the best candidate, I will be sure to support her all the way.

Right now the best candidate is Bernie.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
64. Me three!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:37 AM
Jun 2015

I even sent a small donation to his campaign. I'm an older white woman from Southern California. I'm a huge PBO fan, but since he can't run again, Bernie is my guy. My husband is more of a Hillary fan - which is mystifying to me. I'd love to see a woman prez one of these days, but not Hillary.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. Bernie Sanders represents me as a woman more than any other candidate I can remember in a long time.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:34 AM
Jun 2015

He has been a supporter of Women's Rights for his entire political career. Unfortunately he hasn't always had the support he should have had for eg, the passage of the ERA.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. i would probably vote for Sanders over Hillary but i think a lot of the threads by some who claim
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:34 AM
Jun 2015

to support him are stupid. i don't even really see them as true sanders supporters.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. I don't hold stupid threads against Hillary supporters.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:37 AM
Jun 2015

Seems kinda silly.

I try to ignore the anti-Hillary faction.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
179. Claims of support are often used as part of a characterization ploy.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jun 2015

'Hi, we are the supporters of Candidate Jones and we all think your issues are stupid and so are you for not understanding what is really important'.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
201. There is a concerted effort on DU by some to try to undermine support for Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jun 2015

As i just stated here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6799768

I'm not clear if that's what you are referring to though.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
400. Link doesn't work
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:57 AM
Jun 2015

but I'll look for it.

And I agree with you in that there is a concerted effort to sink Sander's campaign, and if O'Malley starts to gain momentum, he'll be under the bus, too.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
200. There is more than one DUer claiming to be a Sanders supporter yet constantly
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jun 2015

criticizes him and defends Hillary. There's one who is 'undecided' but recs threads in the HCR that plot to tattle on DU Sanders supporters by emailing posts from DU to the Sanders campaign.

It is clearly a planned tactic being taken in an attempt to undermine Sanders as a candidate. So pay attention the words of substance and not the declarations of support be they words or sig pics.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
283. +1-- I've noticed this, too.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:37 PM
Jun 2015

I've also noticed there's an incredible amount of overlap between Hillary supporters and people who tend to sow divisions along gender lines and social issues; even claiming that people who talk about economic justice 'don't care about social justice'.

Seems very divide-and-conquer to me.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
312. Yes. I'm not so sure it's divide and conquer though that's part of it.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jun 2015

I think the only way they can justify supporting a centrist is to try and make people believe that social justice is more important because Hillary is so weak on economic justice.

marlakay

(11,470 posts)
11. Supporting Bernie along with many of my women friends
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:37 AM
Jun 2015

And we are all 50-60's...

He's for the working people and he's not rich.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
14. I like him, probably will vote for him in the primary.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:39 AM
Jun 2015

I don't think voting for Bernie Sanders is voting for "white male rule."

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
17. You can count me. While I would love to see a woman POTUS, HRC isn't who I'd want to be it.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:48 AM
Jun 2015

I don't base my support on the gender of the candidte, I base it on what they stand for.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
18. I don't base my vote on gender either.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jun 2015

I resent the hell out of the implication that I'm a traitor to my gender if I vote for a man.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
403. You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 03:12 AM
Jun 2015

"While I would love to see a woman POTUS, HRC isn't who I'd want to be it"

Amen.

Also, neither of us are "Johny come lately's" on the board, like some that are cropping up out of nowhere to tell us that Hillary is the only way to go.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
21. I am a women and I support Bernie
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:55 AM
Jun 2015

So do my mother and my sisters. We think it will be easier to defend women's rights when we aren't being crushed economically and when the education system isn't being destroyed.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
262. This >>> "We think it will be easier to defend women's rights when we aren't being crushed
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jun 2015

economically and when the education system isn't being destroyed."

Exactly!

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
28. I don't care about any 'white male view'
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:03 AM
Jun 2015

I'm voting for the candidate that is best for women.
For me that's Bernie!

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
29. Me! I love Bernie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:05 AM
Jun 2015

He's my first choice! I've never felt real comfortable with Hillary, but if she gets the nomination, she has my vote -- same as O'Malley. Bernie is who I'm throwing my donations toward.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
34. As a woman, I think Bernie will be a better President for women
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:13 AM
Jun 2015

And it kills me to say that.

I've said here many times before, I truly wanted to vote for the first female President in my life time.

But I feel Hillary's stances only benefit upper middle class women.

I'm not going to vote for her for the Primary, and I'm hoping she doesn't win the Primary.

I was hoping Barbara Lee would run.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
36. I understand completely.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jun 2015

It was an honour to vote for the first black president, I just don't think I'll feel the same thrill if I have to vote for Hillary.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
35. Here we go again
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:14 AM
Jun 2015

How about we support a candidate based on his/her platform not his/her gender or skin color?

Yes, I supported Hillary in 2008 and will probably vote for her in my caucus. I still think that she would have been a better president. Water under the bridge now. I did vote for Obama once he was the candidate. I wonder how many Bernie supporters would do the same if Hillary is the candidate.

But what was amazing in 2008, on DU and among Democrats country wise, was that blacks had no qualms in claiming their support for Obama because he was black. Never mind that Obama had no track record. At least, in contrast to Kerry in 2004, Obama did not have to defend his "voting for before voting against."

But women fell over each other proclaiming that just because they were women did not mean they would vote for Hillary.

Please stop this gender and or race war right now.

Oh, I know. How many Christians are not going to vote for Bernie because he is a Jew?? Heavens forbids he will have a "mixed loyalty." (I have no idea where he stands on Israel).

Shall I support Bernie because both of us are graduates of the University of Chicago?

You can see how ridiculous personal politics can go.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
49. I think you meant to post that in reply to another OP...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026797259

Because I'm not seeing gender or racewar in someone asking if other women are voting for Bernie Sanders, but I am seeing it in the OP I linked to.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
95. Thanks!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jun 2015

I was with BB right up until I felt my loyalty to my sisters was being questioned because I support Bernie.

No purity tests in this thread.

stage left

(2,962 posts)
87. Huh?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:01 AM
Jun 2015

I support Bernie Sanders solely because I agree with his positions on the issues that are important to me, which include women's issues and social and economic justice. His gender and skin color don't matter. That he's Jewish doesn't matter. I voted twice for President Obama. The fact that he is black and I'm not made no difference to me. It would delight me to be able to cast a ballot for Sanders in the General election.

However, if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Nominee I will vote for her without hesitation. We are fortunate to have right now several candidates I would be happy to vote for. Of those on offer for the Republican party not one is worthy to hold the office of the President of the United States, not one.

Since I live in the blood red state of South Carolina, my vote will likely not make a bit of difference, but I'll still be voting and voting Democratic.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
101. I'm supporting Sanders, but I understand your perspective.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:32 AM
Jun 2015

I also supported Clinton in 2008 (after Edwards... and the less said about that, the better!) because I thought she and Obama had virtually identical positions (I assumed he would have voted for the war, too, had he been in the Senate and harbored presidential ambitions at the time)... but Clinton seemed more ready to fight the Republicans, with no illusions about some post-partisan new world... AND she's a woman. A woman president was/is WAY overdue, and that was a significant factor to me for sure, just as it makes perfect sense to me that African Americans would consider race a factor. Even if he was not my first choice, it was incredibly moving and exciting when the first black president was sworn in...

Eight years later, the part where Obama and Clinton hold virtually identical positions is more of a problem, since I like many of those positions even less now... and I also see actual political differences between the current candidates, with Sanders better representing my perspective and interests. (I mean, he would have in 2008, too, had he been running.) But I still remember the way Clinton was treated in 2008, and not just by the right:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/pressing-issues-by-digby-blogosphere-is.html

If she is the nominee, I will be moved and excited at the prospect of a woman president, while also worried about what lies ahead if we continue on the same path. (But WAY more worried about the prospect of a Republican in the WH again, god help us.)

question everything

(47,485 posts)
185. Thank you for a well thought and reasoned reply
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

including the Edwards, same for me..

I like Sanders positions but I have no illusions that most Americans do not vote their interest and will deride his "socialist" positions.

The reason why this country never had and never will have a revolution is because most do not hate the rich; they want to be rich.

Some years back a TV reporter stopped people in the street with a pie chart - don't remember the details - and most would have rather have a big piece of the pie that share it with others.

The shift from manufacturing and farm economy to a service one meant that fewer workers feel that "we are in this together" and more like "looking for number one."

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
122. the vast majority of. Bernie supporters
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:59 AM
Jun 2015

have said they'll vote for HRC if she's the nominee. There have been several poll. By the way, your obscene hyperbole has been noted.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
358. Oh, thank you thank you so much
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jun 2015

Now I am being "noted" by the mighty cali. And for being "obscene," no less. What else can one ask?


(Just in case..)

Has it ever occurred to you that one can conduct a semi civil discussion here without personal attacks? No, I don't suppose so.

Do me a favor and put me on your ignore list.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
204. Um, no. This is about the supporters not the candidate.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jun 2015

It is only about the candidate in so far as if they are good on women's issues, not about whether or not they are a woman.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
269. What an odd response. The OP is asking women to speak out if
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jun 2015

they are willing to support Sen Sanders when there is a female running. Those that responding agree with you that gender shouldn't be an issue. That's the point of the OP. But you imply that the OP is somehow promoting "this gender and or race war". Or maybe I didn't understand.

I think it's clear that most in this thread support Sen Sanders because they support where he stands on issues.

Sen Sanders is the candidate of the people and not the billionaires.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
295. "I wonder how many Bernie supporters would do the same if Hillary is the candidate."
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

If I had to guess, probably the majority would. I know I will if she is our nominee, just like I supported and voted for Obama twice.
I have voted D since 1972, don't see a reason to change my voting habits this late in life.



I support Bernie because of his platform and voting record, not his gender.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
310. Sanders is a Zionist
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jun 2015

which is a plus in my book

I'm sure that there are others who would vehemently disagree with me

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
317. You say that like it's a bad thing.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I found a nifty definition of that word for those (like me) who wonder why it's being used in a thread for Bernie supporters:

A term misused by idiots, bigots and people who generally don't know what the heck zionism is. Mainly used by people looking to scapegoat Jews and blame them for all the problems of society without looking overly anti-semitic. Of course, people with brains see through this usage and realize people who used zionist outside the context of a discussion of support or lack of support of Israel are really talking about Jews.


If this is not you, please disregard.

For others who aren't familiar with the term:

Zionist: 1. A person , Jewish or non-Jewish, who, by some action, supports the State of Israel.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
338. It's also a dog whistle for anti-semitists, google the word and his name.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jun 2015

It's not a label Bernie or his supporters use so why do so here?



dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
340. he is a Zionist
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jun 2015

I'm a Zionist; there are other Zionists on this board

what word would you like use to describe his support for Israel?





dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
349. you're the Bernie supporter
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jun 2015

how does he describe it

I checked his campaign website and didn't see much of anything on there; just a place to sign up for emails

He has voted to support the state of Israel. He's defended his position quite vehemently.

looking at his statements and votes, I don't understand how someone could not consider him a Zionist

if someone thinks the term is anti-Semitic, then that's their issue

same thing with the term feminist; it's the ignorant ones out there than don't understand what it means

I don't see people on here running away from it



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
350. He doesn't use the word at all.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:34 PM
Jun 2015

Probably because it's a dog whistle. I saw the same tactics used against Obama because he was a Muslim.

Did you google 'Zionist' and Bernie Sanders? It's not pretty.

In fact, the only person I have seen use that term as a positive to describe Sanders is you.

And while your intent may be noble, I would prefer to follow Sanders' lead on this issue.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
40. Me. For one thing I think it is sexist to assume that all males white or other are anti-woman's
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:19 AM
Jun 2015

rights. I was raised around a father, a grandfather and two brothers who supported every thing I and my sister want to achieve. I have heard nothing to think that Bernie is any different.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
43. Me.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:24 AM
Jun 2015

Bernie is concerned with the things that working people like me are struggling with. He is the only candidate who cannot be purchased by corporations.
I will never vote for an individual based on gender. That's why the cons picked Palin. It has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with who will truly stand with the people.

Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Kali

(55,011 posts)
57. You said what I was thinking.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:32 AM
Jun 2015

and the same goes for eventually supporting whoever wins the primary. some supporters really go overboard.

Response to Kali (Reply #57)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
59. Sure she does.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:34 AM
Jun 2015

Everyone has a right to their opinion.

I don't care for many of Bernie's supporters either, but I'll be damned if I let them influence my vote.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
176. I could not agree more with
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jun 2015

what you have said. I can barely tolerate, well no, I can't tolerate a lot of what I read from my fellow Sanders supporters. It baffles me how they can act like they do when he is doing everything in his power and nature not to act that way himself.

I did not know this was about a post from BB. I support her right to say what she thinks and feels as well. I feel badly for even posting in this thread now.

BB, continue to speak your mind. I don't think I am voting for more white man rule, just my own desires for my country.

Kali

(55,011 posts)
46. I am in his camp at the current time.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:27 AM
Jun 2015

Sent some money, like what I know about him.

I don't think voting for him is voting for white man's rule.

Kali

(55,011 posts)
66. Hey, and good night!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:39 AM
Jun 2015

I have to get out of here early in the morning - told myself to bed by 9 and now it is 10:40. yikes! this place

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
52. I'm a supporter of the Metric guy, but Bernie comes second...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:29 AM
Jun 2015

Not that I can vote for any of them, but I just want to put it out there...

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
55. Count me!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:32 AM
Jun 2015

Bernie speaks to me with truth and genuine compassion. I'm supporting Bernie and everything he stands for. He stands with me.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
68. I want a bumpersticker that says "Hayburners for Bernie!" for the hoss trailer.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:40 AM
Jun 2015

Or would it be Hayberners?

HeyBerners?


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. I'm a woman for Bernie. Been a woman all my life, have only sisters, no brothers,
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:32 AM
Jun 2015

and am the mother of daughters, only daughters, no sons. My great-aunts were working women before it was fashionable. My mother believed strongly in rights for women. I attended women's liberation meetings in the early 1970s and considered myself a liberated woman in the 1960s. Nevertheless, I did not overcome cultural, class and familial biases to enter the profession that was really right for me until I was 50. So I know how much prejudice against women and the idea that the woman is the housewife while the man is the bread-earner can prevent women from fulfilling their potential.

100% for women and a Bernie Sanders supporter. I trust Bernie to deal with discrimination issues.

I don't trust the other candidates to do that effectively -- not so far.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
73. I appreciate your post.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:47 AM
Jun 2015

I work in a male dominated field, facing discrimination and sexism is part of the job and I learned to pick my battles a long time ago.

Men can be allies as well as enemies.


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
107. I have been harassed in the workplace, discriminated against throughout my life, and
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:49 AM
Jun 2015

once I got into my profession with great grades, I was deemed too old.

Women who raise families, work outside the home to provide for their children and then go back to school to enter a profession that is their dream discover that what gender discrimination is disguised as age discrimination and deprives them of the opportunities to earn equal pay and even to keep their jobs.

Men suffer from age discrimination too, but it is particularly unfair that women are slowed in their careers and often viewed as unable to take on the responsibility that would justify a promotion because they take care of children or elderly parents and then, when those responsibilities are no longer barriers to career advancement are told they are too old for a promotion or management position because they have too little experience compared to their male counterparts.

We women have more serious issues to deal with than stupid words that are used precisely to make it look like we are fools and do nothing but complain about nasty words (mostly inadequate men) call us.

Instead of complaining about epithets that men use to demean us, let's talk about getting the best affordable early childhood education for every single American child whose family wants it. Let's talk about real equal pay for equal work combined with equal opportunity for women. Let's talk about meaningful maternity and family leave -- paid maternity and family leave. Let's talk about better schools and after-school programs. Let's talk about good transportation for our children to and from school. Let's talk about school lunch programs for all children.

There are so many issues on which American women need action. Let's focus on the positive action we want and need, and not on the use of words we object to.

Let's stop trivializing women's issues.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
109. WELL SAID, JDPriestly.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:58 AM
Jun 2015

You should turn your post into an op.




We need to snap out of it and concentrate on the issues that really affect us.

Women don't want to be patronized, we don't want to be defended and taken care of, we want to be able to support ourselves and our families.

We deserve a living wage.

Let's focus on working with our DU allies, not alienating the men who stand with us.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
181. 'We women have more serious issues to deal with than stupid words ......
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops because imo, the the focus on this trivia over all other issues that face women today is intended to trivialize and distract from the real issues facing woen around the world today.

We still do not have equal pay for equal work.

Which seems to have become a non-issue from what I have seen.

Kali

(55,011 posts)
228. meh, I can discuss language and its usage AND the other political issues that concern me.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jun 2015

the basis of attitudes that would find demeaning language acceptable is the same exact basis that blocks many people (men especially, but not exclusively by any means) from seeing and supporting some of the other issues you mention.

it really is not trivial, it is kind of basic

frankly I don't care about alienating some poor whiny guy that just wants to be able to call women gender-based slurs.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
337. It is basic respect, and there is way too little of it-
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jun 2015

Witness this bullshit idea that women can't walk and chew gum.
Same people post all the time that issues American women face are not important enough compared to women in X country.
Baloney, those that paint themselves as "strong" because they brush off slurs aren't kidding anyone. they're going along to get along- basking in the male approval by joining in the denigration of feminists. It's totally transparent.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
339. Stop it bettyellen.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jun 2015

JDPriestly is entitled to her opinion.

I have never seen her "basking in the male approval by joining in the denigration of feminists" so it's not that transparent.

I dislike the word but I also think the issue is being used as a distraction by people who have other agendas.

Like continuing personal feuds.

Please don't drag that shit in here.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
344. The slurs are used and excused to continue personal fueds too.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jun 2015

and I hope we get to zero tolerance because DU has lost so many wonderful women and POC over the bigotry allowed here, and it's making DU suck.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
346. Yes, I am aware of that.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jun 2015

I try to call out bigotry when I see it but it's not up to me to tell anyone else they should be equally offended.

All I ask is that people recognize that the word is offensive to most of us and that is reason enough not to use it.

See my journal.

-none

(1,884 posts)
234. Absolutely!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jun 2015
Instead of complaining about epithets that men use to demean us, let's talk about getting the best affordable early childhood education for every single American child whose family wants it. Let's talk about real equal pay for equal work combined with equal opportunity for women. Let's talk about meaningful maternity and family leave -- paid maternity and family leave. Let's talk about better schools and after-school programs. Let's talk about good transportation for our children to and from school. Let's talk about school lunch programs for all children.

There are so many issues on which American women need action. Let's focus on the positive action we want and need, and not on the use of words we object to.

Let's stop trivializing women's issues.


I agree. People that make a big deal over certain words, at the expense of the real issues women face, are the problem.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
69. me!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:43 AM
Jun 2015

I can't remember the first time I heard Bernie speak, maybe on Rachel's show or Ed's? No matter, he spoke to me back then and I've been a fan since. I really like Bernie and unfortunately, Elizabeth isn't running. I don't care for Hillary at all frankly. I want Bernie.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
72. I suppoort Bernie. He says what the majority of Americans believe.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:47 AM
Jun 2015

I believe he really WOULLD BE the second FDR!

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
76. Voting for anyone at this point is voting for a continuation of white male rule
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:49 AM
Jun 2015

since they form most of our government, elected and non elected, except at the lower levels in civil service jobs.

Anyone who thinks a woman president will change this fact overnight is delusional, whether they want a woman in the top spot or the thought terrifies them.

I've seen a lot of silly things at DU over the years, but this weekend has produced some of the silliest.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
84. It's silly season again.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:57 AM
Jun 2015

Nothing like 2008 but it's still early.

I don't think we "need" to put a woman in the White House, we need the best person for the job in there.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
90. No shit
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:02 AM
Jun 2015

I've been awfully tempted to ask you if I can beam up with you. The next year and a half are going to be grisly around here.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
93. Warpy, if I could beam up you think I'd be here?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:08 AM
Jun 2015

This is a great diversion but not my first choice as far as galaxies go.



sarge43

(28,941 posts)
241. Warpy, think of the next 18 months here as Theater of the Absurb
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

Make some popcorn and enjoy the show

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
83. I support Bernie Sanders because he supports what I believe in,
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:55 AM
Jun 2015

with a few exceptions (a bit too AIPAC-friendly). I like that he's consistent.

Hillary is fine - I caucused for her in 2008 (when only she and Barack Obama were still in the race) - but Sen. Sanders more closely aligns with my personal political beliefs at this time.

I don't vote based on gender, race or anything like that. I vote based on where a person stands on the issues.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
89. Woman, last I looked.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:01 AM
Jun 2015

I'm going to vote for the best available candidate, and their plumbing or how much melanin is in their skin aren't among my criteria. So far, the best candidate happens to be an old white guy...and I give not a single, solitary fuck.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
94. >>standing up for Bernie<<
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jun 2015

This woman strongly feels that my best interest would be better served by electing Bernie.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
102. Hiya BMUS!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:34 AM
Jun 2015

Its good to see you too.

I, like so many others, would love to someday see a woman president, but I'd have passed on Margret Thatcher if I were in the UK, and I feel similarly about Hillary. I have every reason to believe that Bernie respects people in general, and women more specifically and I cannot imagine that Hillary has any policy positions on women's rights that are not supported by Bernie. But as has been mentioned upthread, Bernies's economic policies would have a far greater positive impact on women's lives than those of Hillary./

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
103. You said it, friend.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:43 AM
Jun 2015

Lifting women out of poverty is more important to me than voting for someone because of their gender.
The people who want a woman in the White House that badly should imagine Carly Fiorina taking up residence...

Good to see you again.






Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
108. Count me in!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:56 AM
Jun 2015

Also: my daughter, who is already wondering where to get campaign posters for the lawn; and my granddaughter, who is looking forward to being old enough to vote in her first primary election.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
112. I can't wait to get out the vote for Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:09 AM
Jun 2015

I am hoping to bring in a lot of new voters and help people understand they can make a difference.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
114. Wow.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:13 AM
Jun 2015

I knew he'd be popular on DU but I had no idea he'd generate the kind of support I've seen these last few weeks.



CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
113. I'm female and Bernie comes the closest by far
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:11 AM
Jun 2015

to having the qualities I want in a candidate. Gender and race are irrelevant to me.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
125. I like Hillary, but I love Bernie as my candidate!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:14 AM
Jun 2015

I'd be proud for Hillary to be my president. I'd be ecstatic for my family for Bernie Sanders to win.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
130. Beamie, I don't know who thinks that, but I'd sure rather vote for him...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:37 AM
Jun 2015

than for any woman who thinks that abortion should be "rare".

As a woman who has had an abortion, more than one, and even an illegal one, way back in the day, I happen to believe that if any woman feels that she should not, cannot go thru a pregnancy, then it is that woman's right to whatever medical care that she needs. I don't think that there is anything immoral about deciding to have an abortion and I am definitely not ashamed that I've ever needed that particular procedure. When I had my abortions, it was the moral decision that I made, each and every time.

If someone looks at me with googly eyes when I call "Bullshit" on the proclamation that abortion should be rare, I tell 'em to try walking a mile in my life, having been extremely fertile, failed by birth control, raped by strangers, raped and beaten to a bloody pulp by loved ones, a single mom and always, working class.

So, while I've not even considered yet who I'll support in our Presidential Primaries, when I hear any woman pontificate on how the number of abortions should be reduced, I can only think that she should get out into the real world more and learn exactly why women need access to abortions.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
132. I hear you, countryjake.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:49 AM
Jun 2015

I am so sorry you had to endure such heartbreaking tragedy in your life. We've talked about these things before, what doesn't break you only makes you stronger.

And I've never met a more compassionate person on DU.

You are one in a million.


Nay

(12,051 posts)
171. Oh, ain't that the truth. Abortions should be "rare"? Makes me cringe every time. We
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:39 AM
Jun 2015

should have as many abortions as women want, no more and no less, and if we truly wanted to reduce abortion, birth control would be free and easily accessible. It ain't, so I know those "rare" people are just trying to fuck with women's lives (or, in Hilary's case, trying to pander to RW morons).

ms liberty

(8,578 posts)
133. Me! And my sister, and her daughter as well...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jun 2015

I've been a Bernie supporter for more than ten years, and am so thrilled to have him in this!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
136. The gender of a candidate is not even on the table, when i choose to support a candidate.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:01 AM
Jun 2015

I am a woman, and Bernie is my candidate.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
149. I've partied in Philly, a lot.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:24 AM
Jun 2015

And anything is right!

Watch my coffee, it's hot!

Shit, I have to go to work too. I'm going to be late...

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
144. I am voting for him
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jun 2015

I don't think it's a white male rule, obviously, but that doens't mean I don't recognize that's where his main support is. I hope he draws more from other voting bases, or he'll have a hard time getting the nomination.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
150. Love this thread!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:27 AM
Jun 2015

As one who has often railed against the pasty white man rule here in Wifely Submission Land, I am pleased to see such support. :-D

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
151. I support Bernie and I'm betting he'd get a good laugh out of the notion.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:35 AM
Jun 2015

Oh . . . and I'm a woman. An older woman. A bra-burning era woman.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
156. Over here...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:39 AM
Jun 2015


Everything that addresses women's issues is LIFE-LONG with this candidate. I enthusiastically support him!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
159. I'm a guy, my apologies for butting in
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:45 AM
Jun 2015

and the persons I love the most are my wife, a woman, and my grand daughter, a girl, plus my three sisters. I care what happens to them or what kind of a life they can expect to have and thats a big part of why I say. Bernie Sanders will be our next President!

Don't get me wrong I like Hillary and if not for Bernie being in the race I'd be all for Hillary but when Bernie joined in my hopes for all people, whether they be, Female, Male, Straight, LGBT, Black or Brown, American or Foreign has gone through the roof. I feel comfortable in supporting Bernie on all fronts. There are no bad sides to Bernie Sanders, none.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
256. You're not butting in at all, madokie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jun 2015

I should have added that all feminists are welcome-both male and female.

Thank you for your post and for standing with us.




madokie

(51,076 posts)
302. I appreciate the thanks
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jun 2015

but it isn't necessary as it is the right thing to do for me to stand with you all. We're all in this together, no one is better than the other no matter who or what they do. We are all equal and until everyone understands that we all will continue to have work to do.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
162. Count me in
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jun 2015

I would support Hillary Clinton for president if she turns out to be the Dem nominee, but Bernie Sanders more closely reflects every aspect of my politics. I'll vote for Bernie for as long as I can, to take him as far as he can go.

What matters most to me are the policies and sensibilities of the president. And this election cycle, Sanders hits a bullseye with me.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
364. Okay!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:38 AM
Jun 2015

I too will vote for the nominee no matter what but I believe Bernie really is the best choice.

He scares the hell out of Republicans.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
166. The best candidate I've seen in the race this far is Bernie Sanders -
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:04 AM
Jun 2015

so that is who I am voting for. He has shown through his senate service that he cares about the average people of Vermont. I think he will apply those principles to the entire country. In contrast, Hillary Clinton has served on the board of Walmart and counts the top banks as her campaign supporters. I know where my interests lie.

Demographics: white, middle-aged, middle class, woman

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
167. Bernie Sander, I believe, is the best candidate for all genders
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:12 AM
Jun 2015

I would love to see a woman president, but I won't settle for someone who favors the wealthy, is connected to Wall Street, and is out of touch with the middle class.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
368. I would love to see the right woman president.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:47 AM
Jun 2015

But Bernie Sanders is the right person for the job. No question.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
168. I'm leaning heavily toward Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:13 AM
Jun 2015

Who is it that says voting for Bernie is for "white male rule?"

What did I miss?

Nay

(12,051 posts)
169. I am. I've always been more interested in who will be the most progressive
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:22 AM
Jun 2015

candidate, and Bernie fits the bill.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
173. I would dearly love to cast a vote for a woman
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jun 2015

and as much as I don't think Hillary will be terribly good and I worry that she might even be very bad on issues I think are important, I will cast a vote for her if she is the nominee because SCOTUS holds the future of freedom for women in their grubby hands and she will not let them take what is left of our reproductive rights and other rights that are being talked about.

I do not want to vote for her.

I do not understand how anyone could believe that Senator Sanders would sell out women. I certainly feel comfortable supporting him but I do wish there was another woman with experience whose policy stances aligned with my desires for the country.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
272. I certainly understand wanting a woman to be president.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:16 PM
Jun 2015

I just would like it to be the right one.

Bernie is it for me but I'm biased, I've been a supporter for decades.

It is wonderful to see how many people are on board.


MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
285. Even my very cynical son
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

and his friends who I could never get to register to vote are telling me that this guy will get them to do it. From these kids, all early 30's, I am simply stunned. Some of them have actually begun posting Bernie videos on their FaceBook pages.

I don't know that this means anything yet, it all remains to be seen but I do know that all I am seeing and hearing both from Bernie and about his crowds are pretty encouraging. As a member of the Kucinich club I know better than to let myself believe (I need to insert an edit) I do believe in him but I can't believe he is a shoe in just yet.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
177. me!!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jun 2015

I will vote for him in the primary. I hope he becomes the nominee but if not, I will vote for whomever prevails.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
371. Awesome!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:51 AM
Jun 2015

Nice to see so many loyal Dems in this thread.

The next time someone says Bernie supporters won't do the right thing if he loses the nom, I'll show them this thread.


NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
180. Count me in
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jun 2015

You don't have to stand in the street with a sign saying you are for women to actually be for women.

Listen to his stance on everything, and you will understand he is for humanity, which the last time I checked, includes women.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
184. I support Bernie and I am a woman
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jun 2015

Why again implying Bernie supporters are mysoginic?
Being a woman sometimes doesnt mean you are the best candidate and person. I would love to vote for Liz, or Pelosi. Unfortunely those true progressive women are not running.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
375. I know better, mylye2222
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:02 AM
Jun 2015

I started this thread to hear from feminists who support Bernie.

I hope someday you get to vote for Liz or Nancy, but for now I'm glad we're on the same team.


PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
186. I do, I do! (Support him, I mean)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I agree with the poster upthread who said he's a little too close to AIPAC, but it's not a dealbreaker for me (all things considered).

So yes, this feminist supports Bernie. His authenticity is like a breath of fresh air!

ETA a correction to the title since it sounded entirely wrong w/out it.



hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
188. I'm on the Bernie bus.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jun 2015

And I'm a member of Hillary's coveted older white women demographic. I'll vote for her if she wins the nomination, but I'll have to hold my nose.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
380. Thanks, SaranchaIsWaiting!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:13 AM
Jun 2015

I wanted to see how many of us were out here. Needless to say I'm thrilled with the results!

Welcome to DU!



Avalux

(35,015 posts)
191. ME!!! I will vote for the best PERSON. Bernie is that person.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

Sick of labels, sick of rules, sick of being told what I should and should not do. Bernie all the way!

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
196. Onboard for Bernie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jun 2015

I always choose the best choice, regardless of gender/ethnicity. Bernie IS the best choice for me. Looking forward (for a change) to voting for him for President.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
264. Oh please.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jun 2015

This is a thread for women who support Bernie Sanders, if I wanted to make it personal you'd know it.

Hate to break it to you BB, but not everything is about you.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
426. Glad to hear it. Then delete the quote you took from my OP
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:05 AM
Jun 2015

OUT OF CONTEXT. You didn't even make an effort to hide it. And yet you have absolutely no qualms about turning around and completely denying it. Pretty astounding.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
508. Scottie should have used the whole sentence. IN CONTEXT!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:40 AM
Jun 2015

'I will cast my vote in opposition to white male rule.'

Hey, isn't this thread awesome? There's a shitload of women at DU who don't think voting for Bernie Sanders is voting for white male rule. And I say that even though I wish they'd jump ship and get behind me in supporting Metric Man....

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
275. If you'd like, BB...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015

I invite you to participate in my thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026800066

Though it essentially asks the same question, thus far it's been derided by all of the (few) participants. It does not, however, beg for fawning.

The distinction is interesting.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
280. Ya know, butting into positive threads to insult people is an assholish thing to do.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015

There is no fawning going on, go plug your flame bait somewhere else.

It looks like it's a big hit already.

Stay classy.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
427. I don't get it
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:07 AM
Jun 2015

Do you think there is something particular to women to make them less likely to support the Democratic nominee? I can tell you with absolutely certainty that I will support the nominee, whomever it turns out to be. I won't have a moments hesitation.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
511. I think you do get it, actually.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

It's a given that the posters on this site support Sanders, probably to a woman and a man. This poster, as you observed, started this thread in response to yours - presumably to prove a point that was somehow contrary to the one he or she assumed you made. But no one is going to aver here that she doesn't support Sanders because said person doesn't exist. And, as the OP's response to me indicates, he or she knew so, having started this "positive" thread.

The better question, in response to this thread's response to you, is which women don't support Sanders. That's why I asked it - to give women an opportunity to weigh in elsewhere. I expected no responses. And even though my question was in no way provocative, the thread was met with bile.

Neither thread is meant to take the pulse of women here. And both threads proved that.

BTW, I didn't single out women. You might ask the OP why he or she did.

Response to BainsBane (Reply #198)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
492. Right back atcha. Hope you don't mind me posting in your thread!~
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jun 2015


I'm still undecided for the primaries, so far I do like what I have heard from Sanders: I'd like to hear some debates or at least a comprehensive ledger of specific issue positions from all candidates, before finally making up my mind--

but I will say I am sorely tempted to pen a breathlessly wordy vanity OP in GD about how all the mean DU Hillary Clinton people have simply RUINED IT FOR ME and as such I am probably going to give my vote in the primaries to Bernie Sanders and BOY OH BOY WONT YOU BE SORRY THEN

MUAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAA




beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
494. Not at all, everyone is welcome!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:28 AM
Jun 2015

If you do post that thread, I'm sure they'll put in an appearance and apologize profusely for their sins, ask you to please reconsider, to think of the children, and finally beg for forgiveness.

Because you're THAT important.



Isn't that what happened?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
199. Lifetime Yellowdog LGBT minority female for Bernie here.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jun 2015

Radical liberal Democratic democratic social and political activist.

*Social and Economic Justice and Equality for All*

Right. Fucking. Now.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
205. It's the policies, not the person. Hell, we voted in the cool black guy...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jun 2015

and still ended up with an administration full of corporate tools.

Hun Joro

(666 posts)
210. Female Bernie supporter here.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jun 2015

I'd love to vote for a woman for president, but that woman has to represent my values. Hillary does not, and Elizabeth Warren isn't running. I love Bernie!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
393. I hope Warren runs next time.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:34 AM
Jun 2015

I really like her.

She'd make an excellent VP and that would make it easier for her to run.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
211. I'm All In For Bernie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jun 2015

Just hearing a democrat not trying to triangulate, not being fuzzy, not being afraid to take a strong stand against the plutocrats, it's just so awesome!

So no, there are plenty of us on the female side who think he's just what we need in 2016.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
214. My wife is "all in".
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jun 2015

After a month of Bernie, my wife(and I) are 100% Bernie.

It wasn't that way before he put his name in the hat.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
398. It's great when you can both get behind the same candidate.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:46 AM
Jun 2015

Still working on my guy here. He'll come around.


Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
215. Me !!!!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie Rocks and will work hard for people's rights. Bernie will Not throw women under the bus.
I support Bernie!

jopacaco

(133 posts)
216. Count me in
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jun 2015

I support Bernie. I think we need things to change in this country, not more of the same support of the 1%. I think that Bernie is the one who can do it.

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
217. As much as I'd love to finally see a woman president, I will not vote for any woman.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jun 2015

I have never liked Hilary. Bernie is wonderful. I hope he gets the Democratic nomination. I will vote for Hilary over any Republican.

Spiggitzfan

(35 posts)
220. Being a white male doesn't mean he's against women...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jun 2015

...or minorities. As I female I think he'd do right by me. All women want is to be treated fairly, to not have the cards stacked against them from the get-go. If the candidate standing up for our rights is male, fine. His economic ideas sound like the makings of a more equitable world. My only worry would apply to any candidate, male or female, white or minority: Republicans' actions during the Obama presidency have shown that they will stifle any progress and continue to drag this country backwards. I believe Prez O was and is a great president. But how much can ANY good president really help the American people when the Republican obstructionists want so desperately to transform America, for men and women both, into 3rd world hell scape? Women and minorities are universally oppressed in Republitopia. The seeming inability one person, even if it is The Leader Of The Free World, to protect us, seems almost inevitable now. All our rights are being taken away a state at a time, a Hobby Lobby employer at a time. What can any president do to help us protect out bodily sovereignty, when basically the same "States Rights" idea that Conservatives said gave them the right to keep slavery, they are now using to oppress women? A state at a time our rights are chipped away, and not protected by the federal system. Even the Supreme Court has stood against women, against 51% of America.
Do I feel Bernie Sanders stands for women? Yes. Do I think he can or will help us? Not really, but the same would go for Hillary or any other Democrat. Not unless they feel like starting a civil war to protect female Americans from oppression. Because Republicans will not stop until we have no rights at all.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
286. Thanks for posting, Spiggitzfan.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jun 2015

I agree, the legislation passed to restrict reproductive rights is draconian. It's not like we haven't been fighting, we have - tooth and nail, but it doesn't matter. They are slowly taking away our freedom to choose if and when we have children. If you're a rich woman you'll be fine, birth control and private doctors are always going to be available. It's the poor and middle class women who will have to live without adequate health care. And die because of the lack of it.

It is a war and it has to stop.


aintitfunny

(1,421 posts)
221. Bernie has my support
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jun 2015

and I am a woman. I never believed in voting against a woman because she is a woman, nor will I vote for a woman on the sole basis of her gender. I support Bernie Sanders because I agree, we need a political revolution.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
222. Bernie's the best candidate
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jun 2015

in my lifetime (I'm almost 70). I'm definitely supporting him. If he doesn't win the primary, I'll vote for the Dem in the gen., but I'm rooting for Bernie. I'd love to see a woman as Prez, but I'd perfer Elizabeth Warren to anyone else.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
413. I hope Warren runs next time around.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 03:38 AM
Jun 2015

I'm really impressed by her. And like you, I'll vote for the nominee regardless.

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
223. I'd rather vote for a white Jewish male socialist than
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jun 2015

a white Methodist woman centrist from a political dynasty. I didn't like multiple Bush family members in office, I don't see how multiple Clintons is less problematic. And for those who say HRC is a Rodham, not a Clinton, I'd answer that she's lived as a Clinton for a lot longer than she did as a Rodham.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
230. I do support Bernie as my first choice
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jun 2015

But just to make this clear: I don't support the hate-Hillary club and never will. I like Hillary too and will vote for her if she takes the primary.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
276. I don't support it either.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jun 2015

Valid criticism of every candidate is fine with me. I don't do slander - not on Dems or their supporters.

We'll all need to pull together in 2016 to make sure the Republicans don't control all three houses.


 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
231. Another for Bernie who doesn't care about gender, race, religion.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jun 2015

Like me, he is a grandparent who doesn't believe in patriarchism.

Jean Genie

(273 posts)
235. Bernie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:52 PM
Jun 2015

I'm afraid to get too excited about Bernie, because the MSM is doing all it can to make him a non-candidate. This morning on "Morning Joke," Mika was talking to former VA Gov. and mentioned Hillary's "challengers," but failed to include Bernie. The Gov, to his credit, did mention that Bernie was also challenging Hillary. Come on MSNBC! Wake up Mika, and stop being such a jerk!

I'd love to have a woman President, but not just for the sake of having a woman President. Think Carly F. on the repug side. Would you want her running the country considering that she ran TWO major companies into the ground? Yuck!

But I hasten to add that should Hillary be crowned the Democrat's candidate, I would certainly vote for her over ANY of the clown-car brigade! I hope we can listen to Bernie and not let the MSM decide for us who should be our candidate. Bernie speaks to and for America. He's a good guy with good ideas. I feel like there's a groundswell, and the potential of a major shift towards Bernie. But it's a David vs Goliath thing, with Goliath having mucho-mega money. Can the people wake up, speak up,and turn the tide? Oh god, I wish we could.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
424. I hate those guys.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:03 AM
Jun 2015

They play it off like it's a mistake but they know exactly what they're doing.

Yeah, the gender argument swings both ways, I'm sure Carly will ask all women to support her too, and expect us to fall in.

Nope, never.

I too will vote for the nominee but if it's not Bernie I'll be settling.

It's still early, and the response to this thread gives me reason for hope.


sarge43

(28,941 posts)
237. I'm married to an old white guy, but I can't vote for one because
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jun 2015

I'd be a traitor to my gender?

Male bovine fecal material

I'm supporting Senator Sanders because he's honest, consistent in his views and, dare I say it, liberal. Most of all, I love that he voted against that horror show know as the Iraqi War. The man is fearless.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
428. Fearless.Yes.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:10 AM
Jun 2015

And liberal and consistent, not a mealy mouthed go along to get along and then claim you regret it later kind of politician.

He had the same information as everyone else and managed to vote against the war.

Makes it hard for me to understand why others did the wrong thing.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
239. Woman here. I've had XM radio since it first launched in about 2001 (IIRC) . I LOVED Air America!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:20 PM
Jun 2015

I seem to recall the first I heard of Bernie was when he was a guest on 'Air America' with Al Franken. I sat up and took notice!
Back in the day, I also listened to KTPK AM 1090 out of Seattle. Tom Hartman would have Bernie on his show on Fridays. I tried to never miss that show. Got introduced to Ron Reagan, Ed Shultz, Randi, Stephanie, Norman Goldman and others. I loved them all. Either XM or am 1090 was always on in my truck!
Then, the catastrophe happened. I think it was parent CBS that changed the format to another fucking sports station (as if there were not enough already).
I've been a Bernie fan since way back when...damn, I'm old.




beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
444. I've been a Bernie girl for decades.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:48 AM
Jun 2015

I remember Air America too, loved all of those guys. I can't believe it was that long ago.

Damn I'm old too.

At least I'm in good company!

phylny

(8,380 posts)
242. I am a woman, I would prefer Bernie, I do not hate Hillary, and I'll happily
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:40 PM
Jun 2015

vote for the winner of the Democratic primary.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
429. I don't hate her either.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:15 AM
Jun 2015

I just think Bernie is the best person for the job.

And yes, I'll vote for the nominee.

Glad to see so many others will do the same, we can't afford to have a Republican in there.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
243. I am in for Bernie. He's going to fire up young people imo
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

and also fire up independents and even disaffected republicans.
In a way that NOBODY else will.

On Facebook I'm seeing Bernie posts and reposts from all
sorts of unexpected places... in particular those who loathe
both the Democratic and Republican parties and their long
trails of dishonest candidates.(their words not mine)

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
244. I am a woman and I am supporting Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:43 PM
Jun 2015

He has the same views as I have, and he has been consistent throughout his political career. I know what I am getting with him.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
248. I am 100% for Bernie Sanders
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:08 PM
Jun 2015

It's not about "white male rule". What insipid blather. It's about voting for the best damn candidate for 2016.

Go Bernie!!!

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
249. Voting for Bernie is not voting for "white male rule"
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

Voting for Bernie is voting for progressive change that the middle class/working women AND men of this country need.

Just because Hilary is female doesn't mean she would be the best candidate for women to support.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
436. Oh, absolutely!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:33 AM
Jun 2015

What would it say about me if I voted for or against someone because of their gender?

Bernie is the only progressive in the race.

rhiannon55

(2,671 posts)
251. 63 year old white woman here
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jun 2015

who is thrilled that Bernie is out there, saying what needs to be said. I plan to vote for him.

I want a bumper sticker that says "Give 'Em Hell, Bernie!"

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
255. As the only true progressive
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jun 2015

…in the race Bernie is also the most feminist. All progressive policies are intrinsically progressive.

As a woman I would never vote for a woman just because she's a woman if her past economic policies and foreign war mongering hurt women.

Yeah, I'll vote for Hillary if there's no other Dem in the final election, but with enormous regret that I couldn't vote for the better feminist—Bernie or Warren.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
445. Well said.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 04:55 AM
Jun 2015

If I vote for a woman based on her gender that would make me every bit as sexist as those who would vote against her for the same reason.

Bernie has earned my respect and my vote.

And I believe Warren's time is coming.


Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
259. Bernie is such a womanizer...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jun 2015

LOL....

Bernie is a true believer in equality for all.

Another woman for Bernie here!

 

Jumpin Jack Flash

(242 posts)
265. Growing up in a family dominated by females...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jun 2015

I am for Bernie Sanders!

My mom is for Bernie Sanders.

My oldest sister is for Bernie Sanders

My middle sister is for Hillary Clinton

navarth

(5,927 posts)
266. My wife doesn't hang out on DU but she gave me permission to say
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jun 2015

she's for BERNIE.

I still see, here and there, examples of voting based on gender. IMO that is really stupid.

hardcover

(255 posts)
271. I am a Bernie supporter.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jun 2015

He's a free agent and a breath of fresh air. He doesn't have old ties, old deals to honor.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
273. dear god, where did that come from? I'm going to vote for Bernie in our primary.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jun 2015

Let's not try to paint every feminist as anti-Bernie...that is ridiculous...

Thirties Child

(543 posts)
277. 80 years old, female, voting for what I believe in and therefore voting for Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jun 2015

I didn't know I was a Democratic Socialist until Bernie.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
290. Thanks, Thirties Child.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:09 PM
Jun 2015

It's obvious from the many responses in this thread Bernie doesn't just appeal to the young.




 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
279. It's no coincidence that it's corporate candidate supporters who are trying so hard to divide with
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015

things like gender and social issues.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
281. I am not a woman who supports Bernie, but...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015

I do support him. But mainly I wanted in on BMUS's thread.

Bernie is a guy, whose career I have followed for years, always thinking, "Now why doesn't HE run for president?"
___________________________________________
** In a chaotic system, the right convergence of strange attractors, can determine a resolution that could not be predicted from initial conditions.

imm

valerief

(53,235 posts)
506. Well, I've actually donated more if you count previous years. It's important
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:34 AM
Jun 2015

to donate to good senators, even if they're not from our state.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
284. I Support Bernie, Helping the Poor is More Important
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jun 2015

I support Bernie. I want cruel economic differences to end. I support him because he will make poor people's lives better. As a middle class white woman with economic security, I see that having poor people suffer so is the greater evil. It is heartbreaking that parents have barely enough to provide a decent life for their children, and they work too hard and too long hours to be the kind of parents they want to be.

Also Bernie Sanders did not vote for the Iraq War like Hillary Clinton did. I have a moral problem with her vote since nearly a million people died in that war. Senator Sanders will not squander our tax dollars in foolish adventures overseas to help the oil companies while our children don't have enough to eat. War and Peace are THE WOMENS' ISSUES!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
287. Yo! A woman checking in here for Bernie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jun 2015

I think he would be the best candidate for women's issues and economic issues.
I first voted for president for Jimmy Carter in 1976.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
518. Hey there!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jun 2015

Jimmy Carter was one of the most brilliant presidents we've ever had. He was a nuclear physicist.

I was in college when I saw George McGovern on a campaign stop in 1972 at the Alamo.

I have NEVER voted for a Republican politician in my life. In the past I have voted for Republican judges if they were sane, but now the Republican judges are all crazy. This makes me a yellow dog Democrat.




 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
292. Bernies's pretty much got my vote at this point in time.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jun 2015

things could change.. O'Malley's starting to sound kind of interesting to me, a number of debates would be extremely beneficial for the entire process however.

But I'm not a big fan of identity politics anymore. Dianne Feinstein and couple of other Women with Right Wing policies in office cured me of that.. big time.

Ah,Yep.

She woke me up from some sort of fantasy dream about "If Women ruled the world" everything would be put to rights.. No more Wars, no more Corruption, etc etc etc..


LOL!

Never again. veils lifted from eyes now..

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
463. More debates would be helpful.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 05:59 AM
Jun 2015

Right now the party darling has the advantage.

Agree 100% about women politicians, just like men there are good uns and bad uns.


m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
293. I am a gay male for Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jun 2015

many of my older white seemingly low information (based on what they post I could be wrong) gay facebook friends are for Hillary. She has the reputation for being a big LGBT champion who is quite popular in the gay community and that is why i figured i would jump on this thread and testify. I have no idea how much support Bernie has in the LGBT community though one of the popular and infamous drag queens named Lady Bunny is a huge Hillary critic, Bernie supporter on facebook and I see many ofher of her facebook friends agreeing with her (and some Hillary supporters getting angry)so who knows.

Both Clintons are my least favorite Democrats.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
303. Hi m-lekktor!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jun 2015

I'm sure you're not alone, Bernie has ALWAYS been a supporter of lgbt rights, he didn't need to "evolve" on same sex marriage like some others.

He gets it.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
294. Checking in as an old woman supporting Bernie.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jun 2015

I will be so happy to vote for him, first in the primary and again in the general. He is absolutely the President we need and I have no doubts that he can beat any of the GOPs that are standing in line to run against him.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
298. One more feminist for Bernie!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jun 2015

HRC is not the real deal. Just because she's female and does some good work on women's issues, that doesn't erase the many problems I have with her politics and record.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
301. Voting and supporting Bernie in the primaries
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jun 2015

but will have no problem supporting and voting for whomever wins the primary.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
307. Present and accounted for
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jun 2015

a pioneer on women serving in non-traditional roles in the US Govt and Armed Forces.

vive la commune

(94 posts)
325. Me
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jun 2015

I'm a disabled, low-income, working class queer woman voting for Bernie. He is strong on the issues that are most important to me and will affect my life the most. He takes the high road and doesn't personally attack people he is running against, but he rips on the billionaires and their interests mercilessly. I like that, and I want to hear more of it. He doesn't give a shit about image, or getting money from big donors, and he's held the same positions for years. I like that. I want more of that. I don't know what he will actually be able to do as president, and it's the people, not the politicians that really bring about the change, but I'm glad that someone seriously running for a major office is finally saying things I want to hear, for what it's worth. I loved seeing that journalist squirm when Bernie unflinchingly talked about a top 90% tax rate. This is what I want to hear from someone running for office.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
483. Thank you, vive la commune.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:52 AM
Jun 2015

He's never ran a negative campaign, his opponents think it's a weakness but I see it as the exact opposite. You're right, he runs on the issues, image and money don't matter to him. And that's exactly what I want too.


tblue37

(65,391 posts)
515. I love Bernie. Even though I deplore Hillary's hawkishness and her ties to corporations and big
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jun 2015

banks, and even though I cringe at many of the choices she has made while holding up her finger to test the direction of the political winds, I also admire her in many ways, and I will of course vote for her if she is our nominee.

But I think Bernie's run is our best hope for forcing discussion of the real issues--and for pushing the Democratic leadership back toward our party's actual principles. In terms of adherence to the supposed principles of the Democratic Party, he is the only true Democrat running right now, even though he isn't officially a Democrat.

I do have a problem, though, with the idea of Bernie as our nominee and as president--well, not with Bernie, but with the country and with the way our political system works. Both the Repubs and the Dems did everything they could to kneecap Carter when he was president, because they saw him as an outsider, and they did prevent him from being effective in office. Bernie, despite his years in Congress, is also an "outsider." He doesn't toe the line or play ball with the corporate sellouts in both parties, so I worry that even if he does get the nomination, the Democratic Party's powerful establishment will not support him adequately in the election, and that even if he wins the office, neither party will work with him to enact his agenda.

The Republican Party has deliberately undercut Obama, but he hasn't gotten all that much help from most of the Dems in Congress, either. I am impressed that he has managed to accomplish as much as he has while facing such outrageous obstructionism, but without the support of either the Republicans or many of the Democrats, he hasn't been able to accomplish as much as we hoped he would.

I think that if the American people who wanted more progressive policies had realized that they have more to do than just voting in presidential elections, then Obama would have had many more policy successes, and his successes would have been much more progressive than they have been. Our chance to get universal, single-payer health care, for example, was screwed up by people like Max Baucus, Joe Lieberman, and Nebraska's Ben Nelson, holdouts who were supposedly on our side. Despite the claims made by so many since then, Obama never did have a true 60-vote majority in the Senate--not just because of Kennedy's illness, but also because of the delay in seating Franken and because of the destructive behavior of corporatist Dems like Baucus, Lieberman, and Nelson. But if there were more Democrats in the House and Senate, then the Republicans would be less able to obstruct progressive policies that the American people overwhelmingly support.

Unfortunately, Dems and liberals in general just don't bother to mobilize or turn out for midterm elections, so the Repubs not only captured Congress in 2010, and then the Senate last year, but also a lot of state legislatures and governorships. That gave them the power to gerrymander districts to ensure that they win more seats even when the Dems win a lot more votes, and it also has enabled them to enact all sorts of voter suppression laws to cheat us in future elections, as well as enacting the far right's anti-woman, anti-immigrant, and anti-minority agenda.

If Bernie wins, we have to have his back, in a way that liberal voters have not had Obama's back--and did not have Carter's back. We need to mobilize voters to put Dems in the House and Senate, in governorships, and in state legislatures, both in 2016 and also in 2018!

AND we have to pressure officeholders the way the Republicans do. The Republican base makes noise; Republican voters don't allow their elected officials to ignore or insult them.

Although there are far more people in this country who want progressive policies, most of them don't bother to do anything but vote for president every four years. That simply has to change, because if it doesn't, even electing Bernie isn't going to do much for us.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
345. Self-hating misogynists, all of you!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:09 PM
Jun 2015

You are all guilty of supporting the patriarchy!





Juror: This is a joke poking fun at those who actually do say such things.

Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
357. 185 recs and at the top of the Greatest...
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:35 AM
Jun 2015

Thank you all for checking in and reccing it. I had no idea this thread would turn into such a monster.

It's an honour and a privilege to meet each and every one of you.





delrem

(9,688 posts)
466. I can't see it on the Greatest,
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:02 AM
Jun 2015

not at all.

I don't see it on home page or on latest threads.

If I specify GD, tho', it's at the top.

I wonder how that works? I expected it to be on top of "most recced", but nope - not even there.
The only good thing is that the really dreadful OP, that special one (so quickly on the heels of other very special ones) that shows exactly where the inevitable candidate is willing to go, has also been buried.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
467. It's been more than 24 hours.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:07 AM
Jun 2015

I think that's how it works, keeps it fresh.

It's a great thread, so many positive responses, so little anger.


 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
399. Female
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:51 AM
Jun 2015

and I think he represents the 99%, which most of us are.

I'm a feminist, and the trolling that anyone that isn't a Hillary supporter is a misogynist has me fed up.

I dare someone to call me a misogynist because I don't support Hillary Clinton.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
496. I know exactly what you mean.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:33 AM
Jun 2015

Hera forbid we should make up our own minds.

I refuse to vote for any candidate because of their gender, it's insulting that anyone would even think I'd consider it.

My vote is worth more than that.


Nevada Blue

(130 posts)
406. retired female here; supporting Sanders though I will
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 03:25 AM
Jun 2015

vote for whatever Democrat wins the nomination.

Husband and I both support Sanders, are contributing to the campaign, and look forward to getting involved when things get up and running here in Nevada. Husband is changing his registration for IND to DEM so he can vote Sanders in the primary.

We support him because not only do his ideas align perfectly with our own, but also: he is the only candidate even talking about the real issues we face.

There is a side note to this for me: I WILL vote for the Democrat, no matter who it is, in the general. But I seriously wonder, if we cannot make a strong showing in the house and senate, how willing the Republicans are going to be to work with a woman if Hillary were to win. It's just something I'm concerned about. Look how the right (including those in Congress) have treated a man (barely if at all left of center, friend of corporations) merely because he is only half white. How will they cope with a woman in the top spot?

As I said, if she is the Dem in the general, she has our votes. We do not vote for Republicans or third-party spoilers. I just think that perhaps there would be just as much negative backlash and obstructionism against a woman prez as there has been against Obama.

YMMV, these are just the late night ramblings of a woman of a certain age.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
498. No, I agree with what you said.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:45 AM
Jun 2015

I have no doubt that their behaviour would be just as disgusting if Hillary were elected. Some even said publicly that they wouldn't be in the same room with the man. They would absolutely refuse to respect her.

I'm with you, Bernie is my number one but I'll vote for the Dem who runs in the general. Any of them is better than the alternative.

Lunabell

(6,082 posts)
410. I am.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 03:34 AM
Jun 2015

So far he has said everything I like to hear and want in a candidate. And I believe he is sincere.

But don't get me wrong. I will vote for the Democratic candidate. Period.

nruthie

(466 posts)
503. Count this old lady in.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:10 AM
Jun 2015

He has integrity and I agree with everything he stands for. I am sick of the polished politicians who stand for nothing and sway whichever way the polls swing.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
505. I let my brain and my heart decide my vote, not my uterus
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jun 2015

Those who would remove my choice of candidate from me, those who would question my right to make my own decision because I'm a woman are just as reprehensible to me as those who would remove my right to vote entirely.

I choose Bernie Sanders because he represents the direction that this country needs to take.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
519. Bernie completely lost me when in an appearance on MSNBC
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jun 2015

(Forgive me, I no longer remember which show), he said that democrats are too worried about social issues and should only focus in economic issues. Bernie, as a white male living in Vermont, has that option, but I don't.

If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him, but I don't trust him.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
520. I'm a woman and I want Bernie
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jun 2015

And I am certainly a feminist.

Bernie would be great for women. And men, and children... everybody.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
525. Hello Cthulhu
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jun 2015


I grabbed him as an avatar because, shockingly, there was no Nyarlathotep available. Per my screen name I should be a tall Egyptian man, "swarthy, slender and sinister". The Crawling Chaos.

ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
537. Not voting in response to gender
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 11:28 PM
Jun 2015

I support Bernie. If at some point Bernie drops out and HRC then bests represents me, then I will support her. I supported her last time after Edwards dropped out (and thank god he did).

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
539. Thanks, Marrah!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 11:34 PM
Jun 2015

I will vote for the Dem in the general, doesn't matter which one.

But I would love for it to be Bernie.

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