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pa28

(6,145 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:09 AM Jun 2015

Amnesty International comes out for Snowden: mass surveillance "a violation of human rights".

Amnesty has joined the ACLU, the New York Times, Robert Reich and Jimmy Carter among many others in supporting the position of Edward Snowden in a new report.

Two Years After Snowden: Protecting Human Rights in an Age of Mass Surveillance.

Governments must accept they have lost the debate over the legitimacy of mass surveillance and reform their oversight of intelligence gathering, Amnesty International and Privacy International said today in a briefing published two years after Edward Snowden blew the lid on US and UK intelligence agencies’ international spying network.


http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/reports/two-years-after-snowden-protecting-human-rights-in-an-age-of-mass-surveillance

Visit the link to download the full report.

With each passing day it seems the administration has landed squarely on the wrong side of history with Edward Snowden. Time to bring him home with a clemency deal.
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Amnesty International comes out for Snowden: mass surveillance "a violation of human rights". (Original Post) pa28 Jun 2015 OP
The wrong side of history? Maybe. But the right side public opinion? Absolutely. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #1
Well, that's the funny thing about being on the wrong side of history. pa28 Jun 2015 #3
Public opinion can be dead wrong. tblue Jun 2015 #4
That won't happen in this case, and here's why: Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #11
Meh. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #7
This. LeftOfWest Jun 2015 #8
gee, those are exactly the words that some of us here used..... grasswire Jun 2015 #2
This is good to see. Especially given this could affect their budget. newthinking Jun 2015 #5
Good point and one of the reasons I was surprised to see them take a position like this. pa28 Jun 2015 #6
Wonder how the DU authoritarian group will try to smear Amnesty International riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #9
Good. About time. nt bemildred Jun 2015 #10

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
1. The wrong side of history? Maybe. But the right side public opinion? Absolutely.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:32 AM
Jun 2015
Edward Snowden Unpopular at Home, A Hero Abroad, Poll Finds
The whistleblower is viewed negatively by 64 percent of Americans familiar with him, results say.

By Steven Nelson April 21, 2015


A poll of Americans and people living in nine other Western countries has found exiled whistleblower Edward Snowden is far more popular abroad than he is at home.

Snowden, a contractor who worked with the National Security Agency, ignited an intense, ongoing global policy debate about mass surveillance in June 2013 by exposing the collection of vast amounts of phone and Internet records and communications by the NSA and allied intelligence agencies.

For his efforts, about 64 percent of Americans familiar with Snowden hold a negative opinion of him, according to KRC Research poll results shared with U.S. News. Thirty-six percent hold a positive opinion, with just 8 percent holding a very positive opinion.

The survey was commissioned by the American Civil Liberties Union, which provides legal representation to Snowden, who received asylum in Russia after the U.S. canceled his passport.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/04/21/edward-snowden-unpopular-at-home-a-hero-abroad-poll-finds



And notice this poll was commissioned by his defenders. Not the result they were hoping for, I'm sure.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
3. Well, that's the funny thing about being on the wrong side of history.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:41 AM
Jun 2015

People have a way of changing their opinion retroactively five or ten years after it really counts.

It seems just about everybody thinks the Iraq war was a mistake . . . now.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
4. Public opinion can be dead wrong.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:01 AM
Jun 2015

Slavery polled well back in the day.

The American public is dreadfully uninformed and/or misinformed on this issue. The few who even know who he is think Snowden went to Russia to divulge secrets to Putin. And they are wrong.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
11. That won't happen in this case, and here's why:
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jun 2015


The weird thing is, the more awards he picks up from groups like AI, the higher his negatives become. I'm afraid he's made his bed, and now he has to lie in it, albeit in Putin's Russia.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
7. Meh.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:20 AM
Jun 2015

Most Americans probably have very little grasp of the issues. From your link:

The new poll results show that about two-thirds of American adults have heard, read or seen at least a small amount of information about Snowden. Awareness was much higher - at 95 percent - in Germany, whose chancellor’s phone was famously tapped by the NSA.


NPR did a report on how very different results on mass surveillance and Snowden were achieved just by altering how the question was asked.

George W. Bush once had 92 percent approval rating from the American public, the highest for a President since FDR.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
2. gee, those are exactly the words that some of us here used.....
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:37 AM
Jun 2015

...."wrong side of history."

And it was.

Thank you Edward Snowden.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
5. This is good to see. Especially given this could affect their budget.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:07 AM
Jun 2015

Some Human Rights organizations have become a bit too dependent and a bit too close to governments and it has made it more difficult for them to call out countries like the US.

This should have happened earlier but better later than not at all. And good for Amnesty. Now when will we hear the same from HRW? I have my doubts they will be so brave.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
6. Good point and one of the reasons I was surprised to see them take a position like this.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:11 AM
Jun 2015

If the administration has lost Amnesty they should really think about cutting their losses before it gets really embarrassing.

Like right now.

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