General Discussion

kentuck

(111,099 posts) Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:50 AM Jun 2015

Who is the biggest contributor to the ISIS cause ??

I would submit that it is the US Government.

When ISIS first began its quest across the country of Iraq, they captured a huge amount of American-made weapons and Humvees from the Iraqi military, as the Iraqis deserted their weapons, threw off their clothes and ran.

So we agreed to re-arm the Iraqis if they could protect Ramadi and the Anbar province from the ISIS invaders.

But what happened?

Once again, the ISIS rebels captured the new American military weapons and hardware, as the Iraqis, once again, tucked their tails between their legs and ran. They had no desire to defend anything outside the boundaries of Baghdad.

So, is this all coincidence?

Are the American intelligence and the CIA truly this stupid? I think not.

Although the American people are told otherwise, I think we are intentionally arming the ISIS rebels, in order to present a counter-force to the present Iranian regime now in charge in Baghdad.

I think it is a very complex and fluid situation and things are not always as they seem...

7 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Who is the biggest contributor to the ISIS cause ?? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2015 OP

Good question. safeinOhio Jun 2015 #1

I disagree. I think American intelligence ... GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #2

I would agree that they have proven themselves to be stupid in the past... kentuck Jun 2015 #4

If you had asked that question 20 years ago I would say you were a paranoid conspiracy theorist tularetom Jun 2015 #3

Sometimes you have to arm the enemy... WDIM Jun 2015 #5

The Iraqis tried to hang on to Ramadi for over a year. They are equipped, but have poor leadership TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #6

Instability. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #7

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)

1. Good question.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:52 AM

Jun 2015

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)

2. I disagree. I think American intelligence ...

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:20 AM

Jun 2015

is truly that stupid.

kentuck

(111,099 posts)

4. I would agree that they have proven themselves to be stupid in the past...

Reply to GeorgeGist (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:25 AM

Jun 2015

But I think this "arming" of ISIS is intentional. Either way, the result is that we are arming the ISIS rebels.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)

3. If you had asked that question 20 years ago I would say you were a paranoid conspiracy theorist

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:23 AM

Jun 2015

Now, I'd have to say you might be onto something.

After all, we need to have an enemy in order to have a war, and if there's one thing we seem to enjoy, it's a war. And we need a war so the corporations that make all that weaponry, can arm both sides and make a ton of money.

If ISIS didn't exist, we'd have to invent them.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)

5. Sometimes you have to arm the enemy...

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:38 AM

Jun 2015

When you want endless war. Which is exactly what our Government wants.

Trillions of dollars into the war profiteers pockets. And losing weapons to ISIL just means more money for the war mongers.

Then to top that off what about the air drops of equipment and supplies directly to ISIL?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

6. The Iraqis tried to hang on to Ramadi for over a year. They are equipped, but have poor leadership

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:49 AM

Jun 2015

and are not able to do things like logistics and supply very well--they had troops with no food or ammo trying to survive. WE lost Ramadi right along with them--we gave them very little support as Ramadi fell. We broke their military capabilities, broke their country into pieces, and now we point fingers and call them cowards? Sorry, no. And we're not intentionally arming ISIS, either. Obama is clearly pretty disgusted at having to have ANYTHING to do with Iraq again. He appears to have given up the battle on ISIS, and is trotting out his dipshit defense secretary to blame everything on Iraq as an excuse to do less and less.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

7. Instability.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:02 AM

Jun 2015

The instability of those regions has come about for many reasons. The US is one of those reasons though I would say they would be even more unstable without US involvement. They are borne out of regional/religious failures/success. Depending what side you are looking from.

Reply to this discussion