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Will the TPP Kill the Post Office?Monday, 08 June 2015 00:00
By Dave Johnson, Campaign for America's Future | Op-Ed
Corporations are notorious for sneaking things into laws and regulations before the public can find out and rally to stop it. And we know from the conservative Supreme Court arguments against the Affordable Care Act that even what amounts to a typo can be used to change the obvious meaning and intent of a law.
These are reasons we need to see the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership before Congress votes to preapprove it with fast track trade promotion authority (TPA). They are pushing what is literally a pig in a poke on us. We the People need to open that bag and have a good, long look inside before fast track buys the TPP pig in our name.
Negotiated in secret by corporate representatives, it is probable that the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is loaded with things the big corporations have snuck in. We already know from leaks that TPP contains provisions allowing companies to sue our government in "corporate courts" if they feel a law or regulation is cutting into their profits. What else is in there?
.....(snip).....
State-Owned Enterprises
The U.S. Trade Representative website says TPP will have "groundbreaking new rules designed to ensure fair competition between state-owned enterprises (SOEs) and private companies."
We are also pursuing pioneering rules to ensure that private sector businesses and workers are able to compete on fair terms with SOEs, especially when such SOEs receive significant government backing to engage in commercial activity.
Commitments ensuring SOEs act in accordance with commercial considerations and compete fairly, without undue advantages from the governments that own them, while allowing governments to provide support to SOEs that provide public services domestically; and Rules that will provide transparency with respect to the nature of government control over and support for SOEs.
Will TPP enable the privatizers to declare things like our beloved U.S. Postal Service, schools and roads to be "commercial activity" that competes with private companies? How about our parks, libraries, public pensions, and other public services? .........(more)
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31234-will-tpp-kill-the-post-office
MineralMan
(146,311 posts)That is all.
marmar
(77,081 posts)The more we learn about the TPP, the more its stench grows.
MineralMan
(146,311 posts)Thanks for asking. Only Congress can kill the USPS. They're working hard to do that, too. But, as a national institution, I do not believe it will ever happen. State-run postal systems are the norm. They will continue to be. The TPP will not kill the Post Office. The argument that they will is so tightly stretched that the rubber band will break soon.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I'm a big Post Office supporter, and I'm confident there is nothing in the TPP that threatens them. Jeeez what a load of bull.
cali
(114,904 posts)MineralMan
(146,311 posts)This is one of the weakest possible arguments against the TPP. A desperation argument.
BTW, you never responded to my explanation of your false claim regarding my "cliches" in another thread. You can find my reply in your My Posts list.
cali
(114,904 posts)though cliche is also apt. As for the tpp and the post office, it's the threat from TISA that concerns me. I somehow doubt you've read the New Republic piece about TISA that's Ben posted here, but it's a good, informative read.
http://www.google.com/#q=bromides+definition
http://www.google.com/#q=cliche+definition
Romulox
(25,960 posts)what you speak.
MineralMan
(146,311 posts)Truly.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Then it should be an easy task for you to rebut it.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I even gasp, posted about it here.
Not that it matters. It's only labor, organized at that, which is trying to raise the alarm.
rurallib
(62,416 posts)will it kill the USPS immediately? Likely no.
But like so many Republican projects, the USPS will be chipped away at until it is almost recognizable over several decades. TPP, TISA na TTIP will among the tools that tea baggers will use.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Good for heavy manufacturing, agriculture, software, chemicals, electronics, extraction, pharma, and services; bad for medium and light manufacturing, fisheries, textiles, and possibly autos (a lot of that depends on how the Japan language shakes out). A few hundred thousand jobs will be lost and a few hundred thousand jobs will be created. Though even that is probably an overstatement because it's unlikely to significantly change the existing bilateral agreements, so it will mostly just be the bloc effects that we currently don't have.
Baitball Blogger
(46,715 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:12 PM - Edit history (1)
I didn't see it go that way; that's not how we imagined that rule would be enforced; we just didn't know; or we realize now that it was a mistake, I think it will be the day that I start to believe that maybe the answer will come from a global leader, because our country has certainly run out of ideas.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Occam's razor.
And Obama is NOT an idiot, so there's that.
marmar
(77,081 posts)..... if it were, it would be easier to rationalize his support for this monstrosity. It's corporate payback time.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Nor is it agreed to by anyone including the President.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)One huge giveaway to corporations.
Baitball Blogger
(46,715 posts)I think this is another instance where neo-liberals think they have found a project that creates a happy marriage between social justice and corporate interests. Somehow, they think we can fix another country's economic problems by tying their load to our wagons.
It's going to fail because no one in Washington D.C. has really made any effort to improve the financial welfare of the working class in the U.S. They are so blind that they can't see that the metaphorical wagon has no wheels, and is being propelled on the shoulders of the American worker.
Nor has Washington D.C. come up with any fresh ideas for the Tech workers since the dot.com era -- and all that was just a bubble. Speaking of bubbles, I think that the only thing this country is good at is cinema and marketing. These are industries that bundle ideas that reach into our imagination. Of the two, cinema, which sells fake stories, is the most honest.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They've been a stand-alone entity for decades now.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)The Indiana Toll Road, I-80 and 90 linking Chicago to the East Coast, being a prime example.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and then use the unprofitable ones (of course in government hands still) to prove that you had to sell off the profitable ones because government can't turn a profit! it's therefore self-justifying--you just have to forget that little trick at the beginning
remember, the Caracazo was started by a "populist" who won because he damned the IMF--and then turned around and did everything they said
and if he'd been a Democrat we would've repealed the 22nd Amendment for him, because we can't afford a purity purge in such a time of crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Alfredo_Mart%C3%ADnez_de_Hoz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Jorge_Blanco
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Andr%C3%A9s_P%C3%A9rez
Recursion
(56,582 posts)It's a highly-regulated utility.
MineralMan
(146,311 posts)There's smoke to blow around...
Never mind...
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)That's the job of the TISA.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)if they aren't doing it for guns it won't happen to the post office.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]
Romulox
(25,960 posts)The pretending is what galls.