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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts) Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:26 PM Jun 2015

The WI straw poll results shows how much stronger Clinton is than eight years ago

No disrespect to Bernie Sanders who will get my vote if he's the nominee, the real story is that this straw poll only shows how much stronger Clinton is than eight years ago in the same poll:

Of the 389 delegates, alternates and guests who voted, 153 backed Edwards, while Hillary Clinton came in second with 83 votes and Barack Obama was third with 74. Source.

The progressive insurgent is again sitting with 40% of the vote, but now Clinton has closer to 50% than 20% support. The progressive activists in the party are significantly less hostile towards her than they were back then.

Also Clinton only got 55% in their poll last year essentially unopposed so it's clearly not representative of national polling of Democrats. Sanders may consolidate the "Anyone But Hillary" bloc, but unlike in 2007/8 that's now only a minority of the party.

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The WI straw poll results shows how much stronger Clinton is than eight years ago (Original Post) wyldwolf Jun 2015 OP

It was inevitable that once the other candidates entered the race that the polls would change Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #1

Obama won the WI primary by about 18 points BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #2

just shows how straw polls are meaningless OKNancy Jun 2015 #3

I get the excitement, but some folks seem a little new at this BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #4

K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #5

I am with Hillary all the way, and yes as more enters the primary these numbers will go down. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #6

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

1. It was inevitable that once the other candidates entered the race that the polls would change

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:32 PM

Jun 2015

to reflect more official challengers.

We are going to see four or five candidates, and when they are all present and accounted for, we can start to consider these as a reliable thermometer of the race at the moment the poll was taken.

I also want to say that I have seen numerous posts and OP's that state polls are have no meaning this early in the race. I think all polls should be taken with a grain of salt.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)

2. Obama won the WI primary by about 18 points

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:32 PM

Jun 2015

She had nowhere to go but up, which she has.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

3. just shows how straw polls are meaningless

Reply to BeyondGeography (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:39 PM

Jun 2015

especially 10 months away.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)

4. I get the excitement, but some folks seem a little new at this

Reply to OKNancy (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:46 PM

Jun 2015

The last two contested contests, nothing prior to the final Des Moines Register poll before the Iowa caucus had real meaning, imo. In the 2008 primary, that was published on New Year's Eve.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

5. K & R

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:48 PM

Jun 2015

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

6. I am with Hillary all the way, and yes as more enters the primary these numbers will go down.

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:12 PM

Jun 2015

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