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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI just saw the video of the cops breaking up the pool party in Texas. What a fascinating video.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6795793It encapsulates nearly everything that's wrong with the the criminal justice system in America. Blacks are at a disadvantage from the get-go...presumed guilty and treated like shit right off the bat.
The two most fascinating aspects of the video are the out of control cops and the privilege enjoyed by the white bystanders.
The cop was clearly trying to go after every single black kid he could. He even used excessive force to subdue a teenage girl. It's not like she was armed, she was wearing a bikini for crying out loud. She clearly had no weapon on her, but that didn't stop the cop from physically assaulting her.
Even more fascinating is how the white people there are standing around with no fear of the police at all. One white guy (not a cop) even tries to physically restrain one of the black teenage girls with no consequence at all. Clearly the white people in the video are enjoying privilege and have no fear of the cops while the black kids seem terrified as the cop pulls out his gun and starts chasing them around.
Is it any wonder why black people distrust the police? Blacks are exposed to this shit from a very early age.
A protest against police brutality is planned for Monday evening in McKinney. Many people, both in the community and around the country, said it appeared in the video that police were targeting the black teens.
The teen who filmed the video, who is white, agreed. He can be seen in the video walking around and talking to the black teens, who are being forced to sit on the ground, without the Casebolt saying anything to him.
Brooks told Buzzfeed, Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic. The cop didnt even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/06/eric-casebolt-mckinney-texas-police-officer-cop-suspended-black-teens-pool-party-arrest-video-leave-investigation-photo-gun-background-name/
Incredible video.
malthaussen
(17,195 posts)In fact, there was a brief moment when it looked to me like one of them was trying to restrain the corporal. But in the end, they all piled in, especially after the corporal drew his pistol. So that demonstrates to me the reality that, regardless of whether all the police are "bad apples" or not, they'll fall into line when pushed to it.
-- Mal
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Is still (IMHO) the best study which shows how normally well adjusted individuals can become aggressive bullies when placed in certain situations where they are in positions of authority.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Since one officer had escalated the situation (by drawing a gun) all other officers HAD to change their attitude. It's part of police training to adept to changing circumstances.
The corporal willfully forced the hands of his partners by drawing that gun. Vile human being.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)What a moron.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)hit you or shoot you while you roll or do a cartwheel.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)and dropped his flashlight. Or at least that's what I've seen posted in some of the FB share of the story.
Looks a little too polished to be him tripping though.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Which, in my opinion, fueled the rage. He was clearly out of control from when he fell through the entire incident. Only an idiot would try to roll like that with a radio, flashlight, gun, extra mags, ASP or baton, cuffs. phone...... More likely, when he fell/rolled, he banged himself up and that just pissed him off bringing him into the rage that he was in. You must stay in control to maintain control.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)the "Paul Blart Roll". Why run when you can roll?
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)"Does the rolling help?"
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)what I was thinking, the PATENTED Nesmith combat roll.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that he tripped. It was a trip, but why is he running in like a bat out of hell? We it all white people he would have walked.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Taught by the pro shoulder roller and shirt looser himself.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)972-547-7510
City Mgr/ Mayor
Please.
It can make a difference.
subject
(118 posts)Told them they should be ashamed of their police force and ashamed of themselves.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)The bad shit starts at about 3:20. The cop has one or both knees on the girl's back for over 2 minutes! She's a kid! A teenager! In a frickin' bikini!
He should be fired.
I hope her family sues the fuck out of that asshole.
Everyone needs to see this. I hope the "news" stations pick it up.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
jamejest
(37 posts)police swat team called out on 2nd graders operating an unregistered lemonade stand? Preschoolers maced for making mud pies
(they could use them as weapons of mass destruction). An officer is never supposed to draw that weapon unless they feel that their
or someone else's life is in immediate danger. He wasn't in danger - he was just mad as hell!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It is the reality people live with every day
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)
by the badge(s). No other badge said anythng to deescalate the situation and yeah the white bystanders either. What is it with this virulent amerikkkan hate of POC? Is it because a POC is in charge in D.C. and some whites in authority want to make sure POC understand that they are still in charge. It's got to be some psychotic racist thought behind this return to 'the good old days' of racial hate, harassment, abuse and murder of unarmed children and adults who are born with non-caucasian skin coloring...
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)what ever happened with that??? Now they go for their guns on unarmed kids (if black).
daleanime
(17,796 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)flung to the ground as well. I at least feel somewhat safe in my San Francisco neighborhood.. with many Asians all around me, and our cops... are probably not as crazy as this..
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)gives me away, especially in the summer when I look just a little bit too tanned to be ignored.
As white as I appear (Being at least three fifths European), I get targeted with the others in such situations, it is not enough to look "light enough", ones features must also look very Caucasian.
Your beautiful Asian eyes would have gotten you a rough seat on the grass for sure.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Lilly white but I am not sure I could have stood by while he abused that girl.
JI7
(89,249 posts)malthaussen
(17,195 posts)Where race is not an issue, then class comes into play.
-- Mal
Johonny
(20,851 posts)They were of the same class, but clearly it was assumed they were not based only on race. Which residents called 9-11 and which residents were the victims after the cops arrived? It doesn't take Einstein to see what is so freaking obvious in the video.
Orrex
(63,212 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)tried to destroy her face and teeth by slamming her head into a concrete sidewalk, face first. The officer left his first target to pursue the male, who had given the girl a chance to move back over to the grass. The officer pulls his gun to go after the back of a running black male teenager. With other officers in pursuit of two males, the officer returns to the ground to wrestle the girl who has not left the spot where she was sitting trying to recover from the first attack when she is attacked again. Other officers do nothing.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)while the white guy that was helping him out, I mean he comes in physical contact at one point... nothing. No words need beyond that...
DhhD
(4,695 posts)go after the two teen males who knew the girl was being hurt. The teens were holding beach towels and pool articles.
I am really pissed because the videos being released on corporate MSM do not show the teen age girl being slammed into the concrete sidewalk. I bet there were no appropriate signs up either.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)...cop was white and didn't listen to anything the cop said.
The cop overtly goes after the black and brown people who LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY!!!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)This needs to be pointed out over and over and over. He didn't follow the orders and nothing happened to him.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)This is the best example of white privilege ever. Two racist white women start shit with a group of brown teenagers (most of whom live in the association), start using racist language, physically assault a teenage girl, then call the cops so that the cops can help them win the fight. All with exactly ZERO CONSEQUENCES for their racist and violent actions.
All I can say about anybody who denies white privilege exists after this most blatant example is, they are part of the problem with racism in America.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... one of them said they didn't want to be shot.
There goes the "the scared of the cops because they're poor" excuse...
We're scared because we're black and brown and beige
blackspade
(10,056 posts)samsingh
(17,598 posts)Gumboot
(531 posts)... the more convinced I am that white supremacist groups have infiltrated police depts. around the country. Pointy hat wearing, cross burning nazis, with badges and guns... and operating on our payroll, too.
Now that terrifies me.
I always thought that police officers should be the first responders of the social services, not some hate-fuelled terrorist attack force.
And those white bystanders spoke very loudly & clearly with their (in)actions...
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It was insane, and I have to admit I saw red during those moments.
The video is a perfect, bite-sized diorama of every fucking thing wrong with policing in america. The racism, the violence, the lack of human empathy, the privilege, all of it.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)if one of us pulled a gun on someone.
A juiced, racist cop can pull a gun on unarmed black kids and not only get off scot-free, but also would deserve a medal. He can do anything he wants because he has authoritay!
immoderate
(20,885 posts)And apparently not much else.
--imm
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)the fat white dude in the tan shirt just standing around with the cop?????? He acted like he needed a condom on while watching all that!
byronius
(7,395 posts)That was his body-language.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)byronius
(7,395 posts)Viscerally shocking, but the lack of self-awareness is the icing -- Casebolt thinks he's in a Steven Segal movie, a very bad one. He poses on the girl as if he had just shot a deer. And for those who aren't aware, in Texas, white socks with uniform pants means Old-Timey Violent Racist. Especially on a cop.
Casebolt is the last man who should be allowed near a badge. The very last. Fire the man who hired this man, and then seize the pension of the man who hired the man who hired him.
Guaranteed white socks on all these fellows. It's a code.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I work construction and white socks are the only color I have. I don't have to worry about my socks matching my tie or whatever.
The cops' behavior was outrageous and criminal, but the color of their socks have nothing to do with it.
byronius
(7,395 posts)But cops and security guards in white socks -- are you familiar with Texas culture? 'Cause I am. And my racist uncle the San Antonio cop told me it was code.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I also don't hang around racists, so maybe I don't know the codes.
byronius
(7,395 posts)I was born there, and Houston and Austin always seemed relatively fine. Corpus is a generally liberal place, I'm told. San Antonio, Dallas, the Panhandle -- %#$%#$. I know it's probably changed a great deal, but for me it's too late.
My uncle was promoted to plainclothes early in his career -- his responsibilities included dressing as a gay man and frequenting bars trying to pick up strangers, then driving them outside the city where they would be met by a team of fellow officers. Once the pickup was beaten bloody for awhile, they would threaten to kill him if he returned, even if only to pick up his clothes or belongings. So the 'offender' would start the long lonely walk down the road, barely conscious, face rearranged, off to a glorious new future. This was departmental policy.
Truthfully, I think my uncle was bullshitting me. I think they were probably just killed and buried outside of town. Now, my uncle was a nice guy to me, always a good uncle. He did throw his daughter out of the house for suspicion of potsmoking at sixteen, and she was murdered a few months later by her 'handler', but who's judging? He was friendly, helpful, good-hearted, and moral. He always wore white socks with his uniform.
I got my fill of pleasant, smiling racists. They're everywhere, of course, even here in California; and I do look just like one of them, so they seem to be eager to share their lovely beliefs with me until they find out who I really am -- but my experiences in Texas scarred me enough to feel fear every time I enter the state.
I'm sure it's nothing compared to Alabama or Mississippi. And I do feel strange repeating these opinions on this forum. But that video has so enraged me that I'm afraid I'm boiling over a bit. I would like to beat Officer Casebolt to a pulp, and instruct him not to go home. He needs to walk a lonely road along with the man who hired him, and the man who hired the man who hired him.
For all I know my uncle was telling tales. But as soon as I saw the white socks -- none of the others appear to be wearing them -- I flashed back to my good old uncle and all his funny stories.
A lot of human pain and misery buried in the ground all over this country, I guess. I'm just really angry about it, and Texas had a lot to do with that anger.
And the friendly, smiling, pleasant, helpful, racist monsters that I came from.
On edit: '88' on the back bumper stands for 'HH' -- 'Heil Hitler'. They have soooo many little codes so they can recognize each other, because the damned liberals are making it so hard to say it out loud in public....
yardwork
(61,619 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)That cop kneeled on that girls chest .... pointed guns at kids that were clearly unarmed .... hard to hide much weaponry in swim trunks and bikinis.
The police are out of control.
JEB
(4,748 posts)interfere and wander about unmolested? The cop should have put his face in the dirt and slapped the cuffs on him.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Those cops, especially the mouthy, violent shit, are fucked up, truly fucked up, along with those racist white bystanders.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)His rage is completely inappropriate to what was happening.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I am tired of the police defending the worst amongst them for their stupid abuses. This is supposed to be a job where you help people and police need to start speaking out against their own when they do wrong.
We need to cut money for privatized prisons, legalize cannabis, and use the savings to rebuild infrastructure and provide jobs for the inner cities to help lift people out of poverty.
Enough is Enough!
ProfessorGAC
(65,042 posts). . .black people aren't the only folks who don't trust the cops.
I'm a 59 year old white guy with a professional job and no record, and i haven't met a cop this century i would trust. Wasn't that way when i first started meeting some of them in the 70's and 80's.
The whole environment has gotten toxic.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)If this had been about crowd control the cops would have had everyone either leave or sit down until it was all sorted out.
They targeted people of color from the start.
The fact that several adult white people were able to wander about 'helping' the cops underscores the view that the authorities have about black youth: that they are dangerous and have to be subjugated.