Unfuckingbelievable.

As you said, this would have ended very differently if those guys had been anything but white.

Even so, why the need to carry rifles around like that?

It's insanity

Because then I would have to imagine what happens next.

but these guys are white, so they're just Second Amendment advocates (and still alive)

I rarely hate anything but I hate them.

Yes, that's exactly what they would say

you don't have to go any further

I just meant that being black is enough to get you killed

function under the stress. (I'm a nervous parent) Everytime another mother's child is murdered, it breaks my heart. And the police just keep getting away with it. I just can't imagine the pain.

Tthat "being a black person in America" should suffice.

It's, excuse the expression, dead on. So we have to change the cops. The people, the training, the policies, just every single thing about law enforcement as we know it

imagine what the DOJ would find if it investigated the police departments of every city in this country

And then exactly nothing would be done about it

the two words most don't want to acknowledge are systemic and institutionalized

Correct. Exact. No doubt. No two ways about it.

Shame on EVERYONE that denies it.

Please explain why one group of people who don't follow Leo commands, don't identify themselves and walk away get to live and another group gets killed.
And the group that winds up dead isn't armed.

unbelievable!

Fact is- They weren't breaking any laws-

Now, with that to the side- Yes we need cops to treat everyone the same. Was this a group of black men, may have went down differently or the same. It depends on the cops involved at the end of the day. They tend to treat everyone like shit these days-




Watch this- (Undercover cop cracks me up LOL)

We're told all the time we have to identify ourselves and follow police commands or it's our fault if we get shot. You mean I don't have to or does that only work if I'm armed. I could have sworn people keep saying if only the dead guy did what police told him to.

still waiting for a response to your comment from snooper2

you waited a whole 10 minutes LOL-

So of us have important things to do outside of DU

OK, you got me on that one ... my bad

That's exactly the argument that shows up all the time as an excuse for why (unarmed black and brown) people get brutalized, but here it's magically different.

Follow orders if you're a person of color. If you're a white dude with a license to carry, fuck off, officers.

this isn't nazi germany yet....

Cops are required to produce ID for you though, two forms of ID. They only thing you need to be armed with is a cell phone so you can record the assholes-

Do statistics and facts figure into your statement at all?

to blow that asshole away just because of his big mouth.

brutalize the unprotected. nt

Just for the yelling alone, let alone their goddam AR-15 kill machines.

This open-carrying ridiculousness is so dangerous. Fuckin' useless fuckin' legislature.

and as a citizen that angers and scares me.

Similar with the Bundy fiasco - laws were being broken and threats were made.

Who knows how many times this has gone on and not reported. Remember a few years back a sheriff in NH, I think, had a posse of men intimidating a town meeting? That's scary stuff.

These 2nd amendment assholes are itching for a confrontation. They want it so bad they can taste it. America's own home grown belligerent terrorists.

It's easier for cops to go after minorities and the poor. They have little sociopolitical backing.

These jerks have the RWNJs, Fox, RW radio, assorted associations and RW fringe politicians in their corner, as we witnessed during Bundy.