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The Obama administration has asked a secret surveillance court to ignore a federal court that found bulk surveillance illegal and to once again grant the National Security Agency the power to collect the phone records of millions of Americans for six months.
The legal request, filed nearly four hours after Barack Obama vowed to sign a new law banning precisely the bulk collection he asks the secret court to approve, also suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop.
US officials confirmed last week that they would ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court better known as the Fisa court, a panel that meets in secret as a step in the surveillance process and thus far has only ever had the government argue before it to turn the domestic bulk collection spigot back on.
Justice Department national security chief John A Carlin cited a six-month transition period provided in the USA Freedom Act passed by the Senate last week to ban the bulk collection as a reason to permit an orderly transition of the NSAs domestic dragnet. Carlin did not address whether the transition clause of the Freedom Act still applies now that a congressional deadlock meant the program shut down on 31 May.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/obama-fisa-court-surveillance-phone-records
FOUR HOURS AFTER HE SIGNED THE BILL.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I still get the weather report for Herndon, Va. every time I log into Yahoo.
It seems inconceivable to me that Booz whatever would be so sloppy with their snooping, and I have no idea why I would be of any interest to them. My e-mails are generally just family news and then stuff so boring and so generally disseminated as to definitely not be worth collecting. At one time I had documents from my local Democratic Club on an e-mail account. Maybe the Boozes are interested in political data? That would defy all tenets of our Constitution. But what else could it be?
I started a Facebook account with the past 6 months and was immediately asked about my location because my account was accessed from Herndon, Va. right away.
I'm a boring 72-year-old grandmother with Progressive Democratic opinions and no enemies to my knowledge. I don't engage in any criminal or remotely terrorist activities. That is I am assuming that American-born children under 5 and their parents who practice respectable professions without any questions about their character are not subjects for investigation from our government.
But until the Herndon, VA. weather report disappears from my Yahoo opening page, I am going to believe that the collection programs have not been ended.
What a waste of money and talent.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It doesn't have to be a political deal. It could be just a plain old vanilla economic deal.
Perhaps your opponent gets to know about it before your partners. Tough.
Or say you're about to enter politics by contesting an overwhelmingly powerful incumbent with big money backers. Guess which politician has all the info, all the clues where to look. Not you.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)Your ISP's main office or jumping off point in in VA and your IP Address looks like it originates in VA.
My comcast IP regularly gets me content from Indianapolis and Lafeyette, IN.
Pure ignorance.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)and I have a fixed IP, I'm not assigned one from a pool of availables. So you'd think that even if they got it wrong, they'd always get it wrong in the same way.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)Providers (in their infinite wisdom) often shift the "home" of these three groups around. Your IP may stay the same, but they are messing with locations and assignments on their end. Often to balance loading based on users.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)the largest employer is Booz, Allen?
Paka
(2,760 posts)is more overt each and every day. It saddens me to think how badly I was duped.
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)So there IS that ...
Trying to laugh through my tears, you understand ...
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)He's acting like Bush. Do they have embarrassing phone calls, emails, texts or videos from before he was President that causes him to go along with anything federal intelligence or law enforcement agencies want?????? Defies logic.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)telling us to leave his feet alone.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Do you have a good leg to stand on and can you imagine what it's like to walk in another's shoes.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)Hey, Obama, your actions speak louder than your words.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)And then, Obama better invest in his own lawyers.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)The surveillance corporate state or the executive branch
Demeter
(85,373 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)But sure, let's jump all over John Cusack for having the unmitigated gall to say that Obama was worse than Bush in some regards...
Hope and change my hairy white arse....