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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:14 AM Jun 2015

NYPD chief Bratton says hiring black officers is difficult: 'So many have spent time in jail'

Hiring more non-white officers is difficult because so many would-be recruits have criminal records, the New York police commissioner, Bill Bratton, has said.

“We have a significant population gap among African American males because so many of them have spent time in jail and, as such, we can’t hire them,” Bratton said in an interview with the Guardian.

Police departments, responding to widespread protests against several high-profile police killings of black men, are boosting efforts to recruit more non-white officers. But budget restrictions, strained relations between police and minority communities and, according to Bratton, a history of indiscriminate policing tactics that disproportionately target black and Latino men complicate the department’s goal of racial parity.

Bratton blamed the “unfortunate consequences” of an explosion in “stop, question and frisk” incidents that caught many young men of color in the net by resulting in them being given a summons for a minor misdemeanor. As a result, Bratton said, the “population pool [of eligible non-white officers] is much smaller than it might ordinarily have been”.

The application process to join the NYPD includes, among other things, a complete criminal background check.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/bratton-hiring-black-nypd-officers-criminal-records

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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. NYPD chief Bratton says hiring black officers is difficult:
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jun 2015

By way of institutionalized racism, so many have a great understanding of our system and its abusive flaws that they would want to change us from our current glory.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. excellent article. fuck Bratton's "broken Windows" policing. And fuck him. He's a racist.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

de Blasio should replace him.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
7. Maybe if they stop targeting and incarcerating...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jun 2015

...so many young black men on minor offenses, that wouldn't be the case.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. Exactly. That practice to not hire anyone who has been in jail should look closely at WHAT they
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jun 2015

had been in jail for. A felony or violent crime is one thing jaywalking or shoplifting is another.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
9. Yes, and if they targeted young white kids at the same rate for the same offenses,
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jun 2015

...and furthermore, prosecuted them at the same rate--most probably get off with a slap on the wrist--this would also be less of an issue.
I could go on and on... If we invested more in these communities to begin with, in education, community programs, etc.
Even if there is some truth to what he says (though i don't agree with the premise--I'm sure there is quite a large pool of minorities from which to hire), it's a problem law enforcement and society in general is creating.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
10. Bratton blamed the “unfortunate consequences” of an explosion in “stop, question and frisk” incident
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jun 2015

Like that wasn't by design.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
11. It goes way beyond "stop and frisk"
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 01:36 PM
Jun 2015

NYC cops have arrests quotas. They drive around at night and just scoop up black guys. They drive them around for a while to see if they have anything on them -- like a roach. And they check outstanding warrants. If so, they arrest the guy. Sometimes, if they don't have anything, they let them go. Other times, they arrest them on trumped-up charges.

One guy (as Matt Taibbi relates in his book) was coming home from work at 1 a.m. He stopped to talk to a neighbor outside the building in which they lived. The cops picked them up. They eventually charged this guy with "obstructing pedestrians on the sidewalk," even though it was 1 a.m., there were no other people on the sidewalk, and he was outside his own building.

The problem when this happens to you is that you have to take a day off of work to go to the court hearing. That can take all day. More often than not, the cop will have a conflicting arrangement and will get a continuance, meaning you have to take another day off work to attend the next hearing, which may also be postponed, and so on and so on.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
12. This also shores up racist beliefs for those who think that the police are never wrong.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jun 2015

This is how they think: "Well, if the police are constantly picking up minorities on the sidewalks, it must be because they were up to no good. And, they must be right because, look at the disproportionate percentages of minorities who are in jail."

These mental lightweights can't do the math in their heads to figure out that the higher scrutiny is responsible for the percentage imbalance you see in prison.

Good lord, if you did the same thing on college campuses I can't imagine how many white kids would never make it to graduation.

One last thought: Think about what happens when racist, retired cops move into your communities because this level of abusive bullying never stops.

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