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Obama making bid to diversify wealthy neighborhoodsBy Tim Devaney at the Hill
http://thehill.com/regulation/244620-obamas-bid-to-diversify-wealthy-neighborhoods
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The Obama administration is moving forward with regulations designed to help diversify Americas wealthier neighborhoods, drawing fire from critics who decry the proposal as executive overreach in search of an unrealistic utopia.
A final Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) rule due out this month is aimed at ending decades of deep-rooted segregation around the country.
The regulations would use grant money as an incentive for communities to build affordable housing in more affluent areas while also taking steps to upgrade poorer areas with better schools, parks, libraries, grocery stores and transportation routes as part of a gentrification of those communities.
HUD is working with communities across the country to fulfill the promise of equal opportunity for all, a HUD spokeswoman said. The proposed policy seeks to break down barriers to access to opportunity in communities supported by HUD funds.
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greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)I'll be blunt here, if you just bought a nice home
in a nice development, would YOU want section 8
housing down the street??? Be honest.
applegrove
(118,793 posts)developments, YES! A little bit here, a little bit there, a little bit everywhere. You need mixed market buildings. And make a few low income/disability units a condition of any new condo/rental developments. Montreal does it. Especially in areas that are being gentrified. Then it is an easy sell. But no reason it has to be only those units. Why not the richer areas. What I worry about is the nature of clusters of small cities that is common in the USA might make it hard to put that into local development law. But section 8 might be easier.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)people.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)I asked do YOU want to after spending a goodly
sum to purchase a nice home (that obviously isn't section 8).
Do you want the government to have the power to just walk
in to yours and others lives and say, hey, there has to be section 8
housing across the street from your development.
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JI7
(89,274 posts)BainsBane
(53,072 posts)The greatest factor for a life of poverty and crime is growing up and living in areas of concentrated poverty. Building subsidized housing in more affluent areas--with much better schools--helps those people move out of poverty. Additionally, it is not good or healthy to live in homogeneous neighborhoods, so the affluent will benefit from the opportunity for their kids to go to more diverse schools and lessen their propensity to be complete fucking assholes in life.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And the poor kids will benefit by learning early their proper station in life as objects of ridicule.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)And I think you know exactly what would happen.
Power like this would be abused and used as a political weapon.
Bank on it.
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Recursion
(56,582 posts)Sorry for people who lose some property value, but that's a risk you take.
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Cha
(297,692 posts)applegrove
(118,793 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)The other costs for living in the area are still going to be too expensive for low income families and if the other costs of living do come down (though they probably won't) all that does is benefit the higher income families.
JI7
(89,274 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)JI7
(89,274 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)JI7
(89,274 posts)so they actually end up spending more on gas/car costs . there is also a lack of options when it comes to shopping for lower income areas.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Well done, Mr. President.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)selling off public housing to private developers and handing over HUD money - taxpayer money - meant to help the poor - to rich developers.
I will be very interested to see if this program doesn't turn to be another give away to rich real estate developers and investment funds with ultimately very little benefit reaching the poor.
The real folly is in thinking we can maintain an inequitable economy (relying on a 6% unemployment rate and an enormous underclass) while critiquing people for failing at personal responsibility on the other side. If you want to see real mixed neighborhoods, pipeline people into good, high-paying jobs, give them full support for buying HOUSES in those neighborhoods. Let them enjoy the appreciation and equity that their white counterparts are enjoying right now - that's paying for white retirement and eldercare.
That said, I agree that cordoning off a "poor" part of town is recipe for future class war. I can see it fermenting right now where I live.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)No one wants poor people living by them but then decry isolated neighborhoods that turn into modern ghettos because we segregate our communities. It's ridiculous - and sad.
Don't get me started on the segregated school systems.
I grew up in an undesirable part of my city. I went to a poor public school. It sucked - despite my parents being hard working all around.
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demmiblue
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BumRushDaShow
(129,522 posts)He's gonna take your guns away too!
Edit: Thanks MiRT! On the ball!