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marmar

(77,091 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 01:57 PM Jun 2015

House Democrats Hand Obama Embarrassing Defeat on Trade Deal


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-12/obama-s-fast-track-trade-bill-vote-scuttled-by-house-democrats


Democrats blocked plans for a House vote on sending President Barack Obama his fast-track trade bill, handing him an embarrassing defeat on a second-term priority just hours after he made a rare visit to Capitol Hill to seek their support.

In a 126-302 vote Friday, Democrats helped reject a displaced workers’ aid program that they usually support, because the defeat meant the House couldn’t send the fast-track trade bill to Obama even if it passed in a symbolic vote.

“We have to slow down,” said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat. “Whatever the deal is with other countries, we want a better deal for America’s workers.”



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House Democrats Hand Obama Embarrassing Defeat on Trade Deal (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
Must be a hard vote to have to make, but I respect those who follow their conscience. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #1
Nah, it was an easy vote because it cut Medicare to fund TAA. jeff47 Jun 2015 #12
Oh thanks Nancy! Now, was that so hard? TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #2
Actually, its embarrassing for Democrats JaneyVee Jun 2015 #3
K & R Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #4
They rejected a displaced workers' program? treestar Jun 2015 #5
When it cuts Medicare to do it, yes. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #13
Glad to hear it. The administration SHOULD be embarrassed. closeupready Jun 2015 #6
ditto 840high Jun 2015 #10
wrong Robbins Jun 2015 #7
no. please see my op explaining. cali Jun 2015 #8
Nope. No TAA means it has to go back to the Senate. jeff47 Jun 2015 #14
Wondering how Hilliary would have voted bahrbearian Jun 2015 #9
She would like to tell you, but... Red Oak Jun 2015 #17
Keep your eyes on this kacekwl Jun 2015 #11
I really wish we could change the headline from Obama handed asiliveandbreathe Jun 2015 #15
..! KoKo Jun 2015 #20
Pelosi speaks with a forked tongue. salib Jun 2015 #16
She's holding out for highway funding and probably some other goodies too. pa28 Jun 2015 #18
Good point salib Jun 2015 #19

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. Nah, it was an easy vote because it cut Medicare to fund TAA.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jun 2015

If they voted for it, the TV ad next year with an ominous voice-over: "Representative _____ voted to take money away from sick and dying seniors, and give the money to lazy moochers"

The "plan" was to pass another bill that restores the Medicare cuts. But that doesn't stop the TV ad, and the explanation for why the ad is technically true but false overall can't fit in a TV ad.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. Actually, its embarrassing for Democrats
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jun 2015

Democrats voted no on TAA then lost TPA. Fucking idiots.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
7. wrong
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jun 2015

taa failed but tpa passed so obama will be able to help corporations screw unions and working people.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. Nope. No TAA means it has to go back to the Senate.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jun 2015

And they're not going to pass TPA without TAA. So it will fail there. Then there will be a new round of bills to try and get TPA passed again. But they're running out of time due to the elections coming up, and they're getting more and more pressure from both party's bases to reject it.

It's still doable, but it's going to be harder.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
17. She would like to tell you, but...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jun 2015

she's on a listening tour right now and isn't allowed to talk and, besides, the official campaign response wording isn't out of the focus group yet, although the huge speech and foundation money paid by Wall Street has preordained the actual position on the matter.

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
11. Keep your eyes on this
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:54 PM
Jun 2015

too many political debt collectors want this to happen and happen it will. Selling your soul to the devil is not returnable.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
15. I really wish we could change the headline from Obama handed
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:26 PM
Jun 2015

embarrassing defeat to "the American workers win" with defeat of TAA - I have been around the horn - from TP - TPM - C&L's - to the hill - to Politico - this is the best explanation I could find..re this vote -

From Politico - After TAA failed, the House approved fast-track legislation, known as Trade Promotion Authority, in a 219-211 vote. But that vote was largely for show, because enactment of TPA is contingent on approval of TAA.

The House could vote again on TAA next week. If enough votes flipped to pass it, it would mean that TPA prevailed as well, because the two bills are interconnected.

House Republican leaders say they have 100 votes for TAA, and Democrats would need to provide 118 if another vote happens. On Friday, Democrats provided 40 votes for TAA, while 86 Republicans supported it. In other words, Democrats would need to essentially triple their vote total to pass the measure.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/barack-obama-capitol-hill-trade-deal-118927.html#ixzz3csSJ84yQ

Kudos to those who voted for the likes of Rep. Slaughter -

"TAA has always been an absolute admission to me that there is going to be lots of lost jobs,” Rep. Louise Slaughter, a top House Democrat from New York, said before the vote. Multiple Democrats echoed that sentiment on the House floor

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/barack-obama-capitol-hill-trade-deal-118927.html#ixzz3csTZmR8S

Paul Ryan can go stuff it!


pa28

(6,145 posts)
18. She's holding out for highway funding and probably some other goodies too.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jun 2015

Anyone who thinks Pelosi found religion and fast track is now doomed hasn't watched her work in the past.

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