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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:36 PM Jun 2015

Who Knew? New York City Has a Floating Prison

…and it's the world's largest

Most people know that New York City has its own little Alcatraz, called Riker's Island. But few know that there's another prison in the East River, this one floating next to the new Fulton Fish market in the Bronx.

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The Vernon C. Bain Correctional Center is a 47,000-ton, five-story barge with 800 beds spread over 16 "dormitories" and 100 proper jail cells. At 625 feet in length and 125 feet wide, it also holds a gym, a basketball court, a library, three chapels, a rooftop exercise area, an IMAX theater and a casino. Okay, it doesn't really have an IMAX theater and a casino but I wanted to see if you were paying attention.

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Built in a Louisiana shipyard in the late '80s, the floating prison was towed up to New York in the early 90s, and it looks for all the world like it was designed by a child playing with blue and white Legos. The unattractive structure is also, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, "The world's largest prison ship." (Go New York.)

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As for why we even have the thing, a New York Times article detailing its opening says the ship was built "as a way of trying to develop prison space more quickly and to avoid complaints from community groups about building jails in densely populated neighborhoods."


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Go America!
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Who Knew? New York City Has a Floating Prison (Original Post) Agschmid Jun 2015 OP
While I'd like to see fewer rather than more prisons, this thing looks interesting from a planning MADem Jun 2015 #1
I like this idea. bravenak Jun 2015 #2
There are significant environmental issues. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #7
I think that was an April 1 joke, not sure though. akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #3
No joke... Agschmid Jun 2015 #4
How can that be safe dembotoz Jun 2015 #5
Barges are quite safe, especially when *not* mobile. Agschmid Jun 2015 #6

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. While I'd like to see fewer rather than more prisons, this thing looks interesting from a planning
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:49 PM
Jun 2015

perspective. If, say, drug legalization cuts the prison populations way, way down, and drug legalization reduces the number of violent offenders in prison, maybe we won't need that thing anymore....and that thing looks like it could be reworked, easily, into a homeless shelter, or a community hall for after school programs, senior programs, community meetings and events, etc.

If they really wanted to get creative, someone could hop up there and cut out a few more windows, and turn the thing into subsidized rental apartments! Who doesn't love an ocean view?? You could put a few community friendly items on the thing, maybe a playground for the kiddies, a convenience store, and make it a little floating village. I think they oughta look into doing more of this kind of thing--housing is pricey. If it's stable in rough weather, why not?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
7. There are significant environmental issues.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jun 2015

For starters, it's shading an area that's about the size of two football fields. That kills off the plants that are at the base of the food chain. You're also correct in mentioning the issue of rough weather. Those of us who believe that climate change is happening note the scientists' warnings that severe storms will become more severe as a result.

I'm not familiar with this particular barge. I represented individuals and civic groups who challenged the establishment of two prison barges on the Manhattan waterfront in the 1980s, because there was no environmental impact statement. The City's defense was that there was a terrible crush of inmates and a need for space, bringing the project under the "emergency" exemption to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, and the court bought that argument and let them get away with it.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
3. I think that was an April 1 joke, not sure though.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:59 AM
Jun 2015

We had an article here where Canada was building a floating city off Jamaica with used containers and if a hurricane happened, the city would be able to float away. It was hilarious but it was a joke.

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