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Bush: You need 'boots on the ground'
By Jesse Byrnes - 06/12/15 05:20 PM EDT
The United States will need combat troops on the ground to defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), former President George W. Bush suggested in a new interview.
"The president will have to make that determination," Bush said in an interview published Friday with the Israel Hayom newspaper when asked if ISIS could be defeated without ground troops.
"My position was that you need to have boots on the ground," he said.
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Bush said he faced the "very difficult decision" as president to double-down and send additional U.S. troops to Iraq amid mounting casualties and eroding public support for the war.
"I think history will show that al-Qaida in Iraq was defeated," said Bush, who in the interview described al Qaeda as "ISIS as far as I am concerned."
"I chose the path of boots on the ground. We will see whether or not our government adjusts to the realities on the ground."
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http://thehill.com/policy/defense/244883-bush-you-need-boots-on-the-ground
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)my heinous lies that got us there in the first place.
War criminal and bastard for life, the shrub.
Igel
(35,320 posts)And the context is twofold at this point: Vietnam and IS/Iraq.
One conclusion from Vietnam is that you can't win through just air power. Control the skies, fine; that doesn't give you control over the ground. At best you can temporarily deny the enemy control. (Sure, there were others: Don't fight a land war in Asia, for example.)
Then last year when the bombing of the IS started the reverse was said: It was enough to just bomb the hell out of them. We could defeat them entirely from the air. As towns fell, some thought this conclusion completely justified. They managed to overlook the Arab and Kurdish boots on the ground and acted as though they were sort of an opportunistic infection: After the towns were already clear of IS fighters and firmly under control by Iraq, these government and Kurdish forces moved in, but the boots on the ground had absolutely nothing to do with it.
The only way air power clears a town is when it degrades the forces in it so much that they voluntarily pull back because they know they can't hold the town against a ground assault. Defeat and loss of further materiel and troops is guaranteed in the event of a fight, and a fight is coming, so pull back before that happens.
The rest of the claim Bush is making is probably unnecessary: Those boots don't have to be American. But as long as the Iraqi-worn boots have their toes facing in the wrong direction so IS fighters too-often see just their heels, the IS will hold and even expand its territory.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)War is all or nothing. Either fight it with total committment, or don't fight it at all. If you fight a war with less than full committment of the nation, you will lose the war. If you fight a war which has limited objectives, you will lose.
Think about it. War is death and destruction. War is what happens when all else has failed. You don't do that unless you are ready to go all out.
We fight wars which are unpopular at home or, worse, are not even known about at home. We fight wars in which victory is not even defined. We fight war which are constrained to "nondestructive methods" and are limited for "force protection." We hear of what is called a "major battle" in which we are told that "seven people were killed." If that was a "major battle," what happened at Iwo Jima in 1945?
If we are not, as a nation, fully committed to a war and prepared collectively to pay the price of achieving victory, then we should not send one single soldier into harm's way.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)since he is the perfect reverse-barometer for military action. Whatever he says, we should do the opposite.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Really, Mr. Bush? You want to go with "Al-Qaeda in Iraq was defeated" for your legacy? History already shows that Al-Qaeda wasn't even in Iraq before you unleashed shock and awe and declared victory 45 days later. Well, history is now showing that 12 years down the line, your strutting performance on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln was the worst job of premature celebration since Leon Lett.
Oh, and you weren't in any kind of "difficult decision" territory: Despite millions of people shouting in your insipid simian face that you were making a costly and lethal mistake, you couldn't wait to send the bombers, the battleships and the brigades into Iraq to kill and die so that you could call yourself a war president (after skipping out on the opportunity to be a war veteran 30 years earlier).
Here's to the land you've torn out the heart of; George W. Bush, find yourself another country to be part of.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Bush is a day late and a dollar short.