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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:37 AM Jun 2015

Angry US republicans tell Pope Francis to ‘stick with his job and we’ll stick with ours’

Leading figures on the American right are launching a series of pre-emptive attacks on the pope before this week’s encyclical, hoping to prevent a mass conversion of the climate change deniers who have powered the corps of the conservative movement for more than a decade.

The prospect that the pope, from his perch at the pinnacle of the Catholic church, will exhort humanity to act on climate change as a moral imperative is a direct threat to a core belief of US conservatives. And conservatives – anxious to hang on to their flock – are lashing out.

“The pope ought to stay with his job, and we’ll stay with ours,” James Inhofe, the granddaddy of climate change deniers in the US Congress and chairman of the Senate environment and public works committee, said last week, after picking up an award at a climate sceptics’ conference."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/13/climate-change-conservatives-catholic-teaching

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Angry US republicans tell Pope Francis to ‘stick with his job and we’ll stick with ours’ (Original Post) damnedifIknow Jun 2015 OP
One group of peoplke with a timber factory in their eyes Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #1
It must be so hard being a hypocrit. I remember when Santorum was running for president politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2015 #18
Inhofe is no supporter of the No Establishment Clause betterdemsonly Jun 2015 #19
What exactly is the republican job. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #2
This attitude is rich, coming from them-- truebluegreen Jun 2015 #3
Repubs have been doing a lot of God talking and proseltizing so oops now religious can get political Person 2713 Jun 2015 #4
welcome to du. you are correct. they are hypocrits and will keep screaming. niyad Jun 2015 #11
To be honest... Wounded Bear Jun 2015 #12
One could argue, if one were a religious person, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #5
Something tells me attacking the Pope won't work out well for them damnedifIknow Jun 2015 #7
Wonder what they suppose the Pope's job is treestar Jun 2015 #6
Your job? Jesus would throw your asses out of the temple. nt onehandle Jun 2015 #8
Succinctly put. okasha Jun 2015 #17
Your job is getting us elected Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #9
Oh, you Republicans! gratuitous Jun 2015 #10
Fuck all Republicans gopiscrap Jun 2015 #13
reminds me of Michael Novak wagging his finger at JPII and saying His Holiness had to MisterP Jun 2015 #14
Oh haha! But they'd marry him when he condemns abortion Matariki Jun 2015 #15
This would be hilarious if it weren't so dire in its consequences. Coventina Jun 2015 #16
That is just too rich for words... Hekate Jun 2015 #20
Pope promises not to pitch snowball in fit of hysterical ignorance n/t IDemo Jun 2015 #21
Translation: Angry multinational corporations are not pleased. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #22
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
1. One group of peoplke with a timber factory in their eyes
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jun 2015

tell another group of people about the forest under their eyelids.

Still, it's nice to hear Mr. Inhofe say, as a Republican, he'd prefer a stronger separation of church and state. That's a first, for sure...

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
18. It must be so hard being a hypocrit. I remember when Santorum was running for president
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

in 2012 on an anti-birth control platform, and it came out in an article that his wife in her 20s had lived with an older boyfriend who was a doctor who had an abortion clinic. But she didn't let that get in the way of her Sugar Daddy and traveling around the world with him, entertaining his friends, and remodeling his homes, and being the woman of the house without the benefit of marriage. The article even said she and Rick had lived together before they got married. But once they had children and baptized them into the Catholic Church, I guess they developed a conscience and felt they had to start practicing what they would soon start preaching. Hypocrits.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
19. Inhofe is no supporter of the No Establishment Clause
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jun 2015

He has been legislating the rapture for years. http://www.preteristarchive.com/dEmEnTiA/2002_corn_inhofe_pro-armageddon.html

He is no more an advocate of the No Establishment Clause then Santorum.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
2. What exactly is the republican job.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jun 2015

Destroying the economy the environment and all the people you possibly can while enriching your bank accounts?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
3. This attitude is rich, coming from them--
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jun 2015

"Leave science to the scientists!" as the Frothy Mixture put it, or, a la Inhofe, to the politicians.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
4. Repubs have been doing a lot of God talking and proseltizing so oops now religious can get political
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jun 2015

They should of kept religion out of politics but did not
No right to say much but they are hypocrites so they will shout about it

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
12. To be honest...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jun 2015

the Vatican has a long history meddling in things political.

But you're right. Repubs should actually try to do something rather than whine about others doing something.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
5. One could argue, if one were a religious person,
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:53 AM
Jun 2015

that it is indeed the Pope's "job" to urge the world to act on climate change "as a moral imperative." It will be interesting to see whether this encyclical is issued as "infallible" (many of them are not designated as such).

Vatican I’s decree “Eternal Pastor” taught: “The Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra, that is, when discharging the office of pastor and teacher of all Christians, and defines with his supreme apostolic authority a doctrine concerning faith or morals that is to be held by the universal Church, through the divine assistance promised him in St. Peter, exercises that infallibility which the divine Redeemer wishes to endow his Church for defining doctrine concerning faith or morals.”

Infallibility is a guarantee that neither the pope teaching individually as the Church’s supreme pastor nor the pope teaching in communion with the whole college of bishops can mislead the faithful on an issue essential to salvation.

Encylicals remain very important teaching documents. No pope since 1870 has designated an encyclical as an exercise of papal infallibility, which requires three conditions: 1) the subject is a matter of faith or morals, 2) the pope must be teaching as supreme pastor, and 3) the pope must indicate that the teaching is infallible.

http://www.stanthonymessenger.org/AskAFranciscan/Question.aspx?Question=176

I know very little about Catholic theology, so I have no idea whether the Pope would consider the need to act on climate change to be a crucial issue "concerning faith or morals," but if he believes climate change is likely to cause great suffering and destruction, and if failing to act on it would violate God's directive to care for the earth, maybe he will go all infallible. I would, if I were the Pope. And wouldn't that put the GOPers in a pickle?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Oh, you Republicans!
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

I've known comatose paraplegics who could do what you do. I'm confident the Pope wouldn't strain himself to do whatever it is you do.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
14. reminds me of Michael Novak wagging his finger at JPII and saying His Holiness had to
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jun 2015

acknowledge that capitalism was God's plan for us mortals

he was not pleased

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
16. This would be hilarious if it weren't so dire in its consequences.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jun 2015

Inhofe has some nerve making such a statement when the new meme in Republican politics is to say, "I'm not a scientist....." and proceed to use that as an excuse to ignore climate change.

But now suddenly climate change IS your job?!?!?

I don't have words strong enough to express my contempt for these guys.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
22. Translation: Angry multinational corporations are not pleased.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:20 AM
Jun 2015

With anyone who dares spread the idea that assuredly killing the biosphere for just a tad more pixels of fake money they will never use isn't honorable, desirable or what Jesus would do.

Shareholders of those corporations demand satisfaction against such affronts. Hordes of lobbyists descend upon Washington and there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Enlightened candidates proclaim "Manifest destiny!" and "The drinks are on me!"

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