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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:11 PM Jun 2015

"What do my lobbyists friends do after a losing campaign?" They regroup.

This is also the problem with lobbying. They never give up. Because it's what they're paid to do. They're the political equivalent of a hyperalloy combat chassis with a 120 year power supply.



I wanted to know, "What do my lobbyists friends do after a losing campaign?"

They regroup. Take a break. Yes they lost, but they still got paid. They explain to the client how this is really a victory. They explain how it sets the stage for the next campaign. They tell the story of how this loss is really an opportunity to change things for success next time, based on what was learned. They just need more money to make it happen.

They determine what the landscape looks like now, then start again.

As we saw from the net neutrality fights, when the people close a door the lobbyists open a window. The second they fail on one front they cry,
"And we would have won too if it wasn't for those meddling kids!"

Then they look for new ways to win.

We can wait around to see what they will do next, or we can ask former lobbyists, 'What are they going to do next? What can we do to tie them up now? How can we thwart their future plans? What would YOU suggest? Why would it work? Why is nobody doing this? How would they respond?"

So, taking a page from the actual lobbyists vs. the movie ones, I would like to suggest a specific long-term action to take now.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/06/transparency-now-says-former-lobbyist.html
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"What do my lobbyists friends do after a losing campaign?" They regroup. (Original Post) phantom power Jun 2015 OP
Address income inequality in a major fashion.... daleanime Jun 2015 #1
electing Sanders would be a way forward on that list. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #2
Oh yeah...... daleanime Jun 2015 #3
Are you against lobbying by frazzled Jun 2015 #4
TPP/TAA wouldn't have existed if corporate lobbyists didn't exist... GummyBearz Jun 2015 #5

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
1. Address income inequality in a major fashion....
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jun 2015

lock the revolving door between corporate job and government job.....

expose what kind of financial windfall election to national office is....

end 'to big to fail'.....

start jailing rich crooks, not just poor ones.....

etc, etc, etc....

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. Are you against lobbying by
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jun 2015

unions? by environmental groups? LGBT organizations? Cause they all hire lobbyists. And pay them.

Truth be told, we only dislike the lobbyists who work to promote policies we don't like. We pretend that the lobbyists who work for the causes we espouse don't exist. They may not be as high-powered or paid as much (tho I bet some are), but they exist. Do you think TAA would have been sunk yesterday if labor lobbyists hadn't been out there promising to end the tenure of any Democrat who voted 'yea'?

There are all kinds of lobbyists. We rightfully don't like the ones we don't like. But "lobbyist" is, in itself, a neutral term. Perhaps we should always qualify our concerns by speaking of "corporate lobbyists."

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
5. TPP/TAA wouldn't have existed if corporate lobbyists didn't exist...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jun 2015

Lets not be naive. Obama never would push hard on it, and NO dem would even consider voting yes on it, if it weren't for corporations paying out legal bribes via their lobbyists. So to answer your first question: yes, I oppose all lobbyists equally.

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