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ArnoldLayne

(2,067 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:49 PM Jun 2015

Russian Soldiers supposedly walking the Streets of either Lexington or Louisville, Ky.

Yesterday I was talking to a Vietnam veteran at a local hospital where I work. He told me that he saw it with his own eyes. I responded why??? He said one word Obama and reason was American Troops wouldn't fire on their own people if something comes down. Does anyone on here live in, nearby or been to Lexington or Louisville, Ky recently? Where and why do people hear these things or even lie about seeing crap like this. This is not sarcasm either. Unbelievable I tell you absolutely Unbelievable!

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Russian Soldiers supposedly walking the Streets of either Lexington or Louisville, Ky. (Original Post) ArnoldLayne Jun 2015 OP
Really? gopiscrap Jun 2015 #1
Yea really!! He also showed me where he supposedly ArnoldLayne Jun 2015 #5
sounds like somebody watched Red Dawn and thought it was a documentary hobbit709 Jun 2015 #2
Lucky! My town got North Korean occupation troops. Codeine Jun 2015 #3
kick ArnoldLayne Jun 2015 #7
We have Nazis SS Troops ported here through a time-space continuum. It totally sucks. Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #27
Well that is up there with the nuclear reactor\major military base nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #4
Emergency, everybody to get from street! Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #6
You beat me to it! MineralMan Jun 2015 #8
Fun fact: Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #11
If Kentucky has been occupied by the Russians, they've sure kept it quiet. DemocraticWing Jun 2015 #9
Well, maybe that's what lured the Russians in in the first place! Scootaloo Jun 2015 #26
This sort of stuff isn't new pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #10
And those were repackaged from the Clinton years JHB Jun 2015 #16
Something was up with China and the '96 elections though they had the wrong idea JonLP24 Jun 2015 #19
I live between Lexington and Louisville A Little Weird Jun 2015 #12
costumers? JHB Jun 2015 #13
I know someone who madokie Jun 2015 #14
Does anyone else recall the documentary The Russians are Coming? PufPuf23 Jun 2015 #15
That documentary was filmed in a region of California settled by the Russians... Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #18
I hear the same shit all the time JonLP24 Jun 2015 #17
He'd have a break down in Alamagordo, NM MosheFeingold Jun 2015 #20
Maybe he should stop watching "The Americans" jakeXT Jun 2015 #21
Laugh all you like: it's actually true, and struggle4progress Jun 2015 #22
Gee ! I wonder who got that story started. ArnoldLayne Jun 2015 #24
Probably just lost... sarisataka Jun 2015 #23
Damn! Aristus Jun 2015 #34
Putin's disguises are so good, they always fall for his honeypotski pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #35
Are they on vacation? spinbaby Jun 2015 #25
I once did an Army training course at Ft. Knox with a whole bunch of foreign military officers pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #28
the sad thing about this is that US troops are walking on streets in 74 countries. JanMichael Jun 2015 #29
It does happen, believe it or not. Quackers Jun 2015 #30
Oh my I saw some soldiers about a month ago in an Ohio doc03 Jun 2015 #31
Where do they get all these wild conspiracy's ArnoldLayne Jun 2015 #32
I vote Russian soldier streetwalkers as the #1 novel conspiracy theory pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #33

ArnoldLayne

(2,067 posts)
5. Yea really!! He also showed me where he supposedly
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jun 2015

was grazed in the forehead by a bullet while he was in Vietnam. Looked real but it may have been from a beer bottle to the head instead.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
27. We have Nazis SS Troops ported here through a time-space continuum. It totally sucks.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:31 PM
Jun 2015

But since it's New Orleans. They are liking Bourbon street though.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. Well that is up there with the nuclear reactor\major military base
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jun 2015

under Vulcan Mountain.

I love 'em though.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
11. Fun fact:
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jun 2015

The story took place in a New England village, but was filmed on the west coast (Mendocino and Fort Bragg) so the morning sunrise scenes had to be filmed at sunset.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
9. If Kentucky has been occupied by the Russians, they've sure kept it quiet.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jun 2015

Also it's LGBT Pride festival season (Lexington today, Louisville next weekend) and I doubt the Russians would be letting us have those.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
10. This sort of stuff isn't new
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jun 2015

Early in Obama's first term there were various reports that either Chinese or U.N. troops were staging across the border in Mexico, poised to sweep in when Obama declared martial law (I think some reports said "marital law," lol). The foreign troops were going to collect everybody's guns and take conservatives to our FEMA camps for internment, rape, torture, and God knows what else. They had eyewitness reports!1!!

JHB

(37,161 posts)
16. And those were repackaged from the Clinton years
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jun 2015

In 1996 I was assured that Clinton was bringing in Chinese Red Army troops as UN Peacekeepers. People had even seen their tanks being transported by rail!

Turned out the kernel of truth was the tanks, captured Iraqi Soviet-built tanks, being transported to a military base for use in "Red Team-Blue Team" training exercises.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. Something was up with China and the '96 elections though they had the wrong idea
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:54 PM
Jun 2015

on what it meant.

1996 United States campaign finance controversy

The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy was an alleged effort by the People's Republic of China to influence domestic American politics prior to and during the Clinton administration and also involved the fund-raising practices of the administration itself.

While questions regarding the U.S. Democratic Party's fund-raising activities first arose over a Los Angeles Times article published on September 21, 1996,[1] China's alleged role in the affair first gained public attention when Bob Woodward and Brian Duffy of The Washington Post published a story stating that a United States Department of Justice investigation into the fund-raising activities had uncovered evidence that agents of China sought to direct contributions from foreign sources to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) before the 1996 presidential campaign. The journalists wrote that intelligence information had shown the Chinese Embassy in Washington, D.C. was used for coordinating contributions to the DNC[2] in violation of United States law forbidding non-American citizens or non-permanent residents from giving monetary donations to United States politicians and political parties. A Republican investigator of the controversy stated the Chinese plan targeted both presidential and congressional United States elections, while Democratic Senators said the evidence showed the Chinese targeted only congressional elections. The Chinese government denied all accusations.

<snip>

Background
Wikisource has original text related to this article:
1997 Special Investigation in Connection with 1996 Federal Election Campaigns

According to the Senate report, Chinese officials eventually developed a set of proposals to promote their interests with the United States government and to improve China's image with the American people. The proposals, dubbed the "China Plan", were prompted by the United States Congress's successful lobbying of the president to grant a visa to Taiwan President Lee Teng-Hui. United States Secretary of State Warren Christopher had previously assured his Chinese counterpart Qian Qichen that granting a visa would be "inconsistent with [the United States'] unofficial relationship [with Taiwan]"[3] and the Clinton Administration's acquiescence to the Congressional resolutions led China to conclude that the influence of Congress over foreign policy was more significant than it had previously determined. When formulating the so-called plan, Chinese officials acknowledged that, compared to other countries, it had little knowledge of, or influence over, policy decisions made in Congress, which had a sizeable pro-Taiwan faction under the influence of a more established "China Lobby" run by the Kuomintang.[4]

The plan, according the Senate report, instructed Chinese officials in the U.S. to improve their knowledge about members of Congress and increase contacts with its members, the public, and the media. The plan also suggested ways to lobby United States officials.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy

China's main foreign policy interest seems to be about economics mainly -- don't know them to pick fights or start wars but whether there was any truth to Bob Woodward's reporting there was this (which I think is a result of China's lobbying efforts)

Permanent normal trade relations

<snip>

U.S. and China

In the last year of his presidency Bill Clinton called on Congress to help him change China’s normal trade relations status with the U.S. to permanent. This would amend the Trade Act of 1974 which had the trade status of China on an annually review to determine the best course of action. The piece of legislation was introduced to the house as H.R. number 4444 on May 15, 2000 by William Reynolds Archer, a Republican Representative from Texas (he had three cosponsors). Introduce to the house the legislation referred to the Ways and Means committee in the House of Representatives to be amended and written up.[6] The legislation was introduced by saying that the bill was a top priority for the rest of the year and it was vital to the U.S. agriculture market to have access to a market that accounts for one-fifth of the world’s population.[7]

The other crucial point made was the involvement the U.S. needed to help the workers of the People’s Republic of China to lead better lives.[8] Congress added some important points into the legislation to make sure that when China entered the World Trade Organization it could be reprimanded for crimes against the workers of the country, and certain markets would be mutually exclusive between the two countries. The People’s Republic of China’s businesses had to abide by human rights for their workers as stated in the internationally recognized worker rights. To monitor the workers’ rights Congress established the Congressional-Executive Commission on the People’s Republic of China. The commission was to monitor acts of China which reflect compliance or violation, compile lists of persons believed to be imprisoned, detained, or tortured due to pursuit of their human rights, monitor the development of the rule of law in China, and encourage the development of programs and activities of the U.S. government and private organizations with a goal of increasing the interchange of people and ideas. The committee formed, along with the Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR), and the International Trade Commission (ITC) was to give an annual report to the President.[6]

Congress believed that they needed to pass a bill that would help the economy stay stimulated if not have a higher growth than at the time.[9] The most productive and trouble-free way to keep the economy growing strong was to outsource and trade more with China. China was to help provide America with superior markets in industry, agriculture, and technology. Congress as whole thought that without these things America would fall behind economically and technologically to some enemies of America. If China did not get support from America they could go to another country that would not be so strict on their treatment of people, and they could use that country to gain access to the WTO. The down side to this was that no markets could provide and receive China’s goods like the United States markets could.[7]

<snip>

Since the passing of the bill there have been three attempts to repeal the PNTR with China. The best attempt was in 2005 when Representative Sanders and sixty one cosponsors introduced a legislation that would repeal the Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. [v]Rep. Sanders said to the house, “anyone who takes an objective look at our trade policy with China must conclude that is an absolute failure and needs to be fundamentally overhauled.” The Representative goes into numbers of the trade deficit increased and the number of American jobs being lost to our overseas competitors. One point that Sanders did not make was the because of Congress’s time constraints, and the legislation being passed so quickly nothing in the way China treats its workers changed.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_normal_trade_relations

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
12. I live between Lexington and Louisville
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jun 2015

I haven't seen any of these soldiers yet, but I did see with my own eyes someone buying vodka the other day instead of bourbon! I knew something was up!

JHB

(37,161 posts)
13. costumers?
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jun 2015

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Remember the guy in Pennsylvania who was a "Cold War force reenactor", whose gear was for one of the Warsaw Pact countries?

Or maybe there's an anime/game convention in town? Some of the costumers for the military games can be kinda realistic.

Either of those would be enough to get the "the sky is falling! The sky is falling!" crowd buzzing

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
18. That documentary was filmed in a region of California settled by the Russians...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:49 PM
Jun 2015

before the Yankees arrived, and an area the Spanish chose not to explore. Should have been titled, "The Russians were already here".

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
17. I hear the same shit all the time
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jun 2015

Not that one specifically but always conspiracies with Russia or China like the general population is programmed to see them as the "enemy" but the most recent one was both of those countries have some secret program to sneak our freedoms away from us when they should be worried about our own politicians and besides the defense contractors are more likely to have something like that targeted against them for economic reasons.

Also Iran gets blamed for a lot of Wahabbists policies as if they don't know Iran allows divorce, though they are regressive with second class citizen status they have a middle class and I think 70% own their own home, stuff that is unheard of in Saudi Arabia but "believe a lie, doubt the truth" is what I often run into. Sad really.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
20. He'd have a break down in Alamagordo, NM
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jun 2015

I was in a restaurant when about 50 German Luftwaffe pilots came in, starting drinking and singing songs one time.

Bit strange for a Jewish WWII vet such as myself.

(This was a regular occurrence due to the nearby White Sands Missile range where NATO troops trained.)

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
28. I once did an Army training course at Ft. Knox with a whole bunch of foreign military officers
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

But it turned out that the Chinese Army Major was not the advance party for the Taiwanese invasion, after all.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
30. It does happen, believe it or not.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jun 2015

Not sure about what this guy saw though. When I was in the Army,(got out in 2012), it was common to have foreign soldiers from all over the world at several army bases doing joint training. I've seen several countries soldiers here in the states. They get weekend passes just like other soldiers. With that being said, there's no conspiracy here. Joint training like this has been happening for longer than I've been alive.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
31. Oh my I saw some soldiers about a month ago in an Ohio
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

mall. I can't remember the country they were from but it was somewhere in Central or South America. I just figured they were here for some kind of training. Guess what they were all black, perhaps there is something behind this.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
33. I vote Russian soldier streetwalkers as the #1 novel conspiracy theory
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 01:17 AM
Jun 2015
Nobody knocks malysh off his corner!



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