Listening to Hillary's speech today, where have we heard this before?
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Seem to have heard most of this address before - now, having listened to this, a dreadful feeling building for a long time is only stronger. Back to the endless twilight struggle of the Cold War, the ashes of victory in our mouths in unending wars: the Global War on Terrorism, the invasions of Iraq, the regime changes, the Code Reds, Red Lines, and sectarian holy wars of what remains of North Africa, the Gulf wars, and the Levant. Back to the optional wars that nobody really seems to understand that never end but the burning embers of which always blow back on us.
In President Hillary Clinton's America, we fight all wars at once, none ends on nearly the clean, final terms of the last "good war" America declared that FDR did not quite live to see the end of. Then came Truman, the Loyalty Oaths, and Korea . . . and without so much as a breath or a doubt, the beginning of our next long war in Vietnam.
It's in this part of her address on Roosevelt Island, and it is who Hillary really is, in her own words, and her America will become ours, if we allow it:
No other country on Earth is better positioned to thrive in the 21st century. No other country is better equipped to meet traditional threats from countries like Russia, North Korea, and Iran – and to deal with the rise of new powers like China.
No other country is better prepared to meet emerging threats from cyber attacks, transnational terror networks like ISIS, and diseases that spread across oceans and continents.
As your President, I’ll do whatever it takes to keep Americans safe.
And if you look over my left shoulder you can see the new World Trade Center soaring skyward.
As a Senator from New York, I dedicated myself to getting our city and state the help we needed to recover. And as a member of the Armed Services Committee, I worked to maintain the best-trained, best-equipped, strongest military, ready for today’s threats and tomorrow’s.
And when our brave men and women come home from war or finish their service, I’ll see to it that they get not just the thanks of a grateful nation, but the care and benefits they’ve earned.
I’ve stood up to adversaries like Putin and reinforced allies like Israel. I was in the Situation Room on the day we got bin Laden.
Who else feels in their bones that their bones are weary of unending wars and the wars to come, and this will all end badly?
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She's learned nothing from her IWR "mistake". 
In her mind the compass looks like this and she feels it points in the proper direction
But the unfortunate reality is that the compass she is using is irreparably broken and only points one way - right
This broken compass points towards:
Privatization of public services
trickle down economics
"sensible" cuts to social services and entitlements that should be increased rather than lessened due to rising poverty and stagnant wages
War, interventions and more war
Dereegulation of banking and corporations
and so called trade deals that will help expedite all of the above goals.
I am sure she feels her moral compass is pointing in the proper direction and felt the end of welfare as we know it was a good thing, that banking deregulation that led to the end of Glass/Steagall was prudent, trade deals that have more to do with granting corporate sovereignty and special corporate rights rather than actual tariffs and trade will lead to a better world, that a commission to look at cuts to SS rather than raising the cap is all good for the country and I do not doubt that she is sincere in all these beliefs.
Unfortunately, most of these beliefs are demonstrably false, have let to the decline and poverty of the common working people while bringing wage disparity between the upper crust and the rest of us to levels unseen since the gilded age. Now from her perspective and the perspective those she socializes with whom are all benefiting greatly from such policy, such leadership and such a direction must appear wonderful and profitable, but to those of us (the 99.9% of the rest of the country, such a broken compass leading to such a state are breaking us, and we have so little left to give so that people such as her that count their fortunes in the multi-millions or billions of dollars can have even more money to put in a pile they will likely never spend. We need someone with a compass that is not broken, but rather points true to a destiny of shared prosperity in a world where peace is more common than war and those that work for a living can afford to live.
It is time to smash what's left of that broken compass of hers and restore the country to one where every citizen prospers when productivity rises and where taxes paid to maintain the country and the citizens do not come from the middle class and struggling working class people almost exclusively, but rather from those with the most that take the most while providing so little of the labor that makes all of that capital that is going almost exclusively to a lazy vampirific, non working uber-rich class, and corporations that although highly profitable pay very little or none of the taxes when they are not getting handouts instead of paying taxes at all.
At least, that is the view from down here, a place she has forgotten exists by all appearances, a place where homelessness is a possibility and paying a co-pay for needed medical procedures means not paying one's utility bill.
If only she had eyes to see below the clouds of Olympus, she may change direction and work for the majority rather than the richest among us that are all that remain in her sights at this point in her life.
That is just a thought from an impoverished former blue collar worker that worked his way out of deep poverty to join the ranks of the lower middle class only to fall back into the deepest of poverty yet again due to illnesses that no longer allow me to work, are chronic and will get worse but not better coupled with a SS disability insurance system that I pad dutifully into for forty years only to be in a position where they are trying to enable my death via extreme poverty by making me wait it out (in the hopes I die I think) before honoring our agreement now that I can't work. They have been screwing me around for four years now and it appears they will win as I will likely die homeless before their stalling is complete. (a reality that I am sure will put a smile on Pete Peterson's face if he hears about it)
That is all.....
i hope that you are able to claw your way back to a relatively comfortable life
More truckling to the plutocracy? And you call yourself a Democrat?
So no, I don't want that shit 
Thank you.
Actions speak louder than words. The action is taking the money for the campaign. So, there you go!
Yeah, he'll get right on that right after he gets the TPP passed
We'll have all of du doing it soon enough!
That's at least two in this thread so far.
The purpose of strawmen is to shut down discussion.
Why do people want to shut down discussion on a discussion forum? 
And that phrase could only ever have led to ONE thing:
That's what every war we get into for the rest of eternity is going to be like. None can ever be any more humane than that. None can ever be any less indecent than that. Nothing can ever be WORTH that.
and 
That must be why I don't walk around being afraid and scared all the time like I'm told to be!!
...Hmmmmm....
Are you one of those people that views a Muslim walking down the sidewalk with suspicion and fear?
Might work, until someone calls her bluff. Then, who knows how fast things can start moving in all directions at the same time. It only takes one operator unable to understand an image on a screen.
Thank you.
Wasn't there a time when war profiteering was against the law? Now it's the norm. I did not hear the speech, but the text you provided was enough.
"...transnational terror networks like ISIS..."
Which we helped create. 
The system isn't broken. The system is fixed.
such a familiar litany of what they think will sell.....to the 'average' american voter...
