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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:54 PM Jun 2015

Officials: Second hack exposed military and intel data

http://news.yahoo.com/union-says-federal-workers-fell-victim-hackers-071851098--politics.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hackers linked to China have gained access to the sensitive background information submitted by intelligence and military personnel for security clearances, U.S. officials said Friday, describing a cyberbreach of federal records dramatically worse than first acknowledged.

The forms authorities believed may have been stolen en masse, known as Standard Form 86, require applicants to fill out deeply personal information about mental illnesses, drug and alcohol use, past arrests and bankruptcies. They also require the listing of contacts and relatives, potentially exposing any foreign relatives of U.S. intelligence employees to coercion. Both the applicant's Social Security number and that of his or her cohabitant is required.

"In a statement, the White House said that on June 8, investigators concluded there was "a high degree of confidence that ... systems containing information related to the background investigations of current, former and prospective federal government employees, and those for whom a federal background investigation was conducted, may have been exfiltrated."

"This tells the Chinese the identities of almost everybody who has got a United States security clearance," said Joel Brenner, a former top U.S. counterintelligence official. "That makes it very hard for any of those people to function as an intelligence officer. The database also tells the Chinese an enormous amount of information about almost everyone with a security clearance. That's a gold mine. It helps you approach and recruit spies.


More at the link. Personally, I find it hilariously convenient that they are now fear mongering that China and Russia cracked the encryption on Snowden's files, but this wasn't mentioned until 7:30pm last night.
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Officials: Second hack exposed military and intel data (Original Post) Aerows Jun 2015 OP
and how is this Snowden's fault? marym625 Jun 2015 #1
It isn't Aerows Jun 2015 #2
Yeah, I saw that post and thought marym625 Jun 2015 #3
I'm glad you linked to this thread, would've missed it. bananas Jun 2015 #7
ok. I am confused marym625 Jun 2015 #10
Wrong link, fixed it. nt bananas Jun 2015 #14
Oh good! Thanks! marym625 Jun 2015 #15
Thanks for the reality! marym625 Jun 2015 #4
k/r marmar Jun 2015 #5
lol daredtowork Jun 2015 #6
I have wondered all along if this government hack was not the same hack that they are claiming jwirr Jun 2015 #8
They certainly aren't going to take Aerows Jun 2015 #9
People actually think that the US government is using the same codes marym625 Jun 2015 #11
Bingo. blackspade Jun 2015 #12
Thanks marym625 Jun 2015 #13
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. It isn't
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jun 2015

It's a massive fuck up by our own intelligence apparatuses. Note that the story about the claim that Russians and Chinese had decrypted the documents came out *after* that one.

It smells like a deflection, or worse, an attempt to blame a massive breech on Snowden.

The Russians and Chinese wouldn't, if they operated like every other intelligence agency in every other country in the world, admit to decrypting those documents - that would be giving away an advantage.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
10. ok. I am confused
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:09 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sun Jun 14, 2015, 01:12 AM - Edit history (1)

I may just be too tired, but what is relevant about your link? My apologies for not being on top of it tonight

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. I have wondered all along if this government hack was not the same hack that they are claiming
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jun 2015

is the Snowden hack? Got to have someone to blame for it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. They certainly aren't going to take
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jun 2015

responsibility for any wrong-doing if Clapper and Alexander are any example to go by.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
11. People actually think that the US government is using the same codes
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:28 PM
Jun 2015

As two years ago.

Two choices there.

Either that's wrong and what Snowden had has zero to do with this

Or shame on the US government

marym625

(17,997 posts)
13. Thanks
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jun 2015

Too bad the anti Snowden people can't figure it out.

Sad. Really fucking sad.

I hate what has happened and I hope that all those compromised because of it are safe. But it's the US government's fault if they're not, and no one else's

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