Seniors will come under her family issues area. This rally was not about specifics but about her vision in general where she outlines 4 major areas one of which was family.

and both She and Bill are Boomers who are eligible for it? Did her Mother get SS? Since she spoke in two parts of her address about her mother, it was an opportunity to talk about the Elderly and how she will deal with SS and if her mother had SS it was a perfect entry to speak about it and reassure all the Middle Class Boomers who've been through hell in the last two Decades about HOW they WILL SURVIVE after losing so much. They can't even make any bank interest that gives them decent return on their money in the bank/savings if they have anything to SAVE left Over after living expenses and are told to Invest in Junk Bonds to get even a halfway decent return on their investment to tide them through the rest of their lives. JUNK BONDS!

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fool me twice ....can't get fooled again...or words to that effect.

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If you wanted a policy discussion you weren't going to get it in that speech--it's not made for that sort of treatment of any one issue. This is a platform speech, not a detailed dissection of each and every issue.

be about more DETAILS. Hopefully she will address this later...but, WHY NOT in this Inauguration Kick Off Speech?

I will be open to more details...but, it was disappointing if there wasn't a mention that I heard listening to it. It sounded like a rehash of speeches Obama gave when He was Running to both me and my partner.

To leave out Protecting SS and the Aging Boomers (if she did...) in this speech announcing her overview of issues she wants to run on would seem to be odd. Maybe someone will post it if she addressed the issue.

you.

This was a launch speech. This WAS her 'announcement.' The videotape was a "Yes, I'm running" notice. This was the first "announcement speech" she has given. You would know that if you followed her campaign rather than looking for a gotcha here and there.

If you don't support the candidate in the first place, of COURSE it was "disappointing."

She didn't "leave it out."

How can you be confident in retirement without retirement security?

But hey....beat the drum!! No matter what she does, it's never enough, never right, never what some are looking for...because they've no intention of voting for her anyway.

We get it. It's fine if you don't want to vote for her. You can stop being coy.

If you can give me what Hillary thinks about protecting SS going forward or the needs of ageing Boomers....I would want to read it.

It should be a TOP issue with her. Because Older People Vote more consistently than Younger.

I was a huge Bill Clinton Supporter, btw....back in the day. And, you can search DU Archives to see posts where KoKo01 (my handle then) supported Bill and couldn't wait for a "Big Dog Sighting."

It wasn't until I got into the weeds of what Bill did when we were so focused on Monica Gate and the Rest DEFENDING HIM that I realized the Legislation he did in his second Admin that led to the Banking Crisis we are still unwinding harming millions of Americans. BTW...I was against NAFTA but gave Bill a pass until we now see how bad that move was and I was in favor of DLC and supporter of it ....but, now I see how it was a HUGE MISTAKE for Dems to ever get involved with it...even though it was a desperate attempt to get a Dem President when we'd had so many losses.

I've grown and changed my views through the years...but, I'm NOW a "Left Dem"...having seen what the DLC Policies have brought us to.

Hey....I'll give Hillary a listen if she can compete with Bernie and that's why I want to know about her stand on SS and Senior Citizens Issues.

I'm asking you WHERE Hillary stands on "SS" and Protection for Ageing Boomers in any of her Policy!

I'm done with you.

Maybe someone else from Hillary Group will post the Info that I'm seeking. You keep wanting to make this Personal.

I was juror #7

I do agree with the alerter that we SHOULD focus on the issues.

We certainly should not goad and bait the people that support the candidate we don't happen to favor with questions we can answer ourselves with a minimum of effort.

The "D" Team are so fortunate--we've got three wonderful candidates who have declared. Any one of them would be a thousand times better than the best comedian in the GOP Klown Kar. We should be THRILLED.

And we all have Google in this day and age--it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find any information we want on the internet in these fancy-shmancy modern times. If I want to know O'Malley's view on the environment, I'll bet a little googling will cough something up. If i want to know how Senator Sanders feels about farm subsidies, the answer is a few clicks away. If I want to know what SoS Clinton said today, I can find that too. Asking DUers to do one's homework for them about a candidate they do not favor is a passive-agressive little game; I don't go for it. It can be perceived as unkind and goading on a good day, and worse on a "big day" for a candidate, like a launch speech.

You will. It's just a matter of how much will they cut? How many more years will people be forced to work before getting their own money, they money they paid into their whole working lives.
The only candidate talking about social security IS Bernie Sanders and he's talking expansion, not cuts.

There were a lot of basic Democratic planks she did not touch.

This was not that kind of speech.

https://www.democrats.org/issues/retirement-security

that is the best way to protect Social Security

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Social_Security.htm

Of course, she may have "evolved" since then.

It's hard to know if she's evolved since no one can give me her latest but, this, at least should give me a clue. 's

No Lifting Cap on Payroll Tax; thatTaxes Middle Class


Q: Would you take a pledge of no tax increases on people under $250,000?

OBAMA: I not only have pledged not to raise their taxes, I would cut their taxes. We are going to offset the payroll tax, the most regressive of our taxes.

CLINTON: I don’t want to raise taxes on anybody. I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax, because that would impose additional taxes on people who are educators, police officers, firefighters and the like.

OBAMA: What I have proposed is that we raise the cap on the payroll tax, because right now millionaires and billionaires don’t have to pay beyond $97,000 a year. Now most firefighters & teachers, they’re not making over $100,000 a year. In fact, only 6% of the population does. And I’ve also said that I’d be willing to look at exempting people who are making slightly above that.

Q: But that’s a tax on people under $250,000.

OBAMA: That’s why I would look at potentially exempting those who are in between.

Bipartisan commission, like in 1983, to address crisis

2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008


OBAMA: [to Clinton]: I think we should be honest in presenting our ideas in terms of how we’re going to stabilize the Social Security system and not just say that we’re going to form a commission and try to solve the problem some other way.

CLINTON: I am totally committed to making sure Social Security is solvent. You’ve got to begin to reign in the budget, pay as you go, to try to replenish our Social Security Trust Fund. And with all due respect, the last time we had a crisis in Social Security wa 1983. Pres. Reagan and Speaker Tip O’Neill came up with a commission. That was the best and smartest way, because you’ve got to get Republicans and Democrats together. That’s what I will do. And I will say, #1, don’t cut benefits on current beneficiaries they’re already having a hard enough time. And #2, do not impose additional tax burdens on middle-class families.

OBAMA: That commission raised the retirement age, and also raised the payroll tax. So Sen. Clinton can’t have it both ways.

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008

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FactCheck: No, teachers & police won’t pay if cap over $102K

Clinton exaggerated when she said that lifting the cap on wages that are subject to the Social Security tax “would impose additional taxes on people who are, you know, educators here in the Philadelphia area or in the suburbs, police officers, firefighters and the like.”

In fact, only individuals earning more than $102,000 a year would be affected. A spokesman for the union representing Philadelphia’s public school teachers tells FactCheck.org,“There are some affluent suburban districts where only the most senior educators with a master’s degree and probably 25 or more years of experience whose salaries might approach 100k. However, I think that’s a very small number overall.“

As for Philadelphia police officers, an officer would have to work more than 1,200 hours of overtime in a year to push even the highest base salary above $102,000.

The Clinton campaign pointed to budget figures showing that principals of Philadelphia’s large high schools earn $111,500 on average.
Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Philadelphia primary debate , Apr 16, 2008

FactCheck: Yes, removing $97,500 cap affects middle-class

Clinton called Obama’s proposal to raise Social Security taxes on annual earnings over $97,500 “a trillion-dollar increase on middle class families.” Obama defended his proposal: “Only 6% of Americans make more than $97,000--so 6% is not the middle class --it’s the upper class.” Clinton responded that some of her constituents would still find the increase burdensome. “I represent firefighters. I represent school supervisors,” she said.

The base pay of an NYC firefighter is $68,475 after 5 years on the job. So Clinton is being misleading to suggest that a rank-&-file firefighter would be affected. On the other hand, FDNY captains make $140,173 with overtime. For them, Obama’s proposal could amount to a $2,646 tax increase. As for school administrators, in NY state there are few that make less than $100,000 a year.

Obama may be correct to say that only the top 6.5% of earners would be affected. But we judge that Obama is being misleading to say that his proposal would tax only the “upper class.”

Source: FactCheck on 2007 Democratic debate in Las Vegas , Nov 15, 2007

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Have a Bipartisan Commission on Social Security and Its Tax

Q: Did you say you would consider lifting the cap perhaps above $200,000?


A: I have said consistently that my plan for Social Security is fiscal responsibility first, then to deal with any long-term challenges. We would have a bipartisan commission. All of these would be considered. I do not want to balance Social Security on the backs of our seniors & middle-class families. We have to move back toward a more fair and progressive tax system, and begin to move toward a balanced budget with a surplus.

I expect it from her.

matter, as I don't trust her on this any more than I trust Obama.

Hillary Clinton didn't touch a single one of the issues most important to me either. Not. A. Word.

Could someone please remind me why I should want to support this candidate?

and I don't care what she doesn't do the more she fails to address the issues I care about the less likely I am going to even vote for her in the General. She has 16 months to address the real issues.

1. Rein in the MIC.
2. Debt free college
3. Universal health care
4. Strengthen public schools
5. Strengthen social security
6. End the war on drugs
7. End private prisons
8. End the federal death penalty
9. Institute a law that a marriage is legal in all states if done in another.
10. Change the way LEO is trained nationwide.

and "Foreign Policy" and what Obama didn't manage to get done that he promised will be issues the informed electorate will be focused on.

Her Roosevelt Island Speech didn't seem to fit "the times we now live in" and that the small bit she allocated to "FP" she was sounding like restarting the "Cold War with Russia" when the Middle East has Death, Destruction, Dislocation of Millions of Innocents caught up in Wars that U.S. and our Allies Started. So many losing homes, businesses, jobs, family members/structure and now fleeing across borders with little resources and even taking unsafe boats run by criminals to flee for a better life.

We have brought death and destruction instead of democracy & freedom to INNOCENTS!

Yet she talks about the same stuff that Obama did ...and doesn't mention that with our SPENDING ON WARS there's no money left for the American People she wants to Vote for Her!