Funny how it's unthinkable to provide money more directly to those in need. "Helping" the poor is only acceptable if the money is filtered through the sticky fingers of corporations.

All I saw in her welfare policy was "get a job" (and she recommends childcare while badgering people to "get a job" without looking at what the surrounding circumstances are).

Seeing Pres. Clinton became governor in 1978 and Chelsea Clinton was born in 1980.

I think Ms. Clinton has never experienced poverty as much as Bernie Sanders did, and he never forgot that.

The reason most political representatives, even at the local level, vote in such seemingly absurd ways when it comes to poverty issues is you really do have to go through the motions yourself to see all the factors involved and how difficult the struggle is. It's literally impossible to comprehend from the outside. It cannot be explained. It must be experienced. There are so many pieces. There are so many contradictions. It is so exhausting and eternally defeating. It leaves one constantly wondering: "why doesn't society just save itself a ton of money and me a lot of time and stress by coordinating this and that, by making these things make sense, and by just doing that thing...".

Instead experts at the top of the food chain, who really know nothing, are consulted. They end up filtering and distorting - really blockading information while they collect their accolades and promotions. The poor continue to get strung along by the disorganization and contradictions and outright sabotage of the system.

In some ways I feel almost honored to have gotten the opportunity to go through this experience and gained this insight. My background is seriously privileged in terms of education and particularly historical analysis. If I can ever get my own act together maybe I can write something along the lines of "Nickel and Dimed". The main thing is I've actually seen the torture chamber that no Republican or Third Way Dem who says "get a job" has ever seen. And now I have what they don't have: compassion.

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Incentive to business could mean getting access to capital via small business loans, and for entrepreneurs. Small business employs something like 70% of our workforce.

Some of them are fronts for big businesses.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39317328/ns/politics/t/report-big-business-turns-small-tax-purposes/

I agree we shouldn't be subsidizing large profitable corporations, otoh it is good to give access to capital for entrepreneurs and start ups.

It is a small business. It employs a very small number of people. American Airlines obviously employs thousands.

When you give an incentive to "small business", you are giving that incentive to American Airlines Group unless you structure it very carefully.

Repeal of Glass-Steagall

(The brilliance of her followers here today is amazing)

given the 30+ years of wealth distribution: the economy is working overtime for the successful. it's everyone else who is struggling.

to work for everyone. What sort of economy would work for the struggling but not for the successful?

how can we fix the economy, that has been working overtime for the successful, to work for the struggling as well as it has worked for the successful?

1) One that would not force students to go into hock for College
2) One that ensured PUBLIC education, as only PUBLIC institutions can be called out on the fact they are supposed to support the struggling, this includes supporting teacher's unions and NOT supporting Charter schools.
3) One with a PUBLIC OPTION for medical care at least, something sadly neither she nor Obama supported.

and number four, the big one:

One where so much of our money did not get pissed away on foreign wars, especially ones started on behalf of Bibi Netanyahu and the Royal house of Saud.

Call that Socialist if you want, though that is roughly about as Socialist as the European union, the nation that was kickign our ass with the Euro before Germany decided it wanted to be the main Diva of the Opera, and Eng;and decided it wants to stay the UK (even if many Scots are kinda tired of the idea.)

and third way doublespeak. the economy is working fine...for the successful. but more and more people are struggling. i want to hear about her plans to help those who are struggling.

This is major in my opinion. Even the Pope is on board with that...geez.

Since I make my living as a writer, I struggle when the economy sucks. That's because businesses buy my writing. They always have. For a long time, it was national magazines who bought my writing. That business faltered. Now, it's small businesses who buy my writing. times are better for small businesses now, so I'm not struggling as much. Every one of the owners of the successful small businesses who pay me for my work earns far more than I do. If they didn't, they couldn't afford to pay me to write for them.

I'm unusual. Most people work directly for businesses. I work on contract for specific projects. Both ways of working are iffy, though, and depend on businesses being successful enough to hire us. When the economy sucks, people suffer more than when the economy is doing well. So, I'm not opposed to successful people. I depend on them to buy my work, just as most people depend on them for their jobs. I rarely work for large corporations, but do from time to time. Mostly, I work for companies that fall into the small business category and have revenues under $10,000,000 per year. Almost all of them have multiple employees. Few one-person businesses can afford to hire me to write their websites. I can't remember the last time I got paid by a company that didn't have Inc. following their business name. I've worked for some LLCs and partnerships, though.

But every company I've worked for hired me to help them become more successful. If I succeed, they make more money doing what I do. Success is important for everyone. I believe that's what Hillary Clinton is saying. I suspect that Bernie Sanders would say the same thing. Without successful businesses, large and small, individuals struggle.

is that the successful, more often than not, get that way on the backs of the struggling. You'd have to change the way we do business in this country to balance that equation. Nice empty rhetoric tho.

then share it with us by pissing it down our backs while telling us it's raining*.

I'll pass. Done that, got the T-shirts, and had to toss them in the trash because I couldn't wash the stink out of them.

She wants it to work for all : Corporations as well as the middle class. She also said that it was working for corporations.

Haters gonna hate.