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Investigators probing the compromise have "a high degree of confidence that OPM systems containing information related to the background investigations of current, former, and prospective federal government employees, and those for whom a federal background investigation was conducted, may have been exfiltrated," Samuel Schumach, a spokesman for the personnel agency, said in a statement to Bloomberg News Friday. The second set of data files likely included highly sensitive information from forms filled out by people applying for jobs that require security clearances.
The 127-page questionnaires ask about criminal and arrest records, mental illnesses, drug and alcohol problems, and financial data for the applicant and often family members, friends and acquaintances. Previously, Bloomberg and other news organizations said such records had been breached, but White House officials declined to confirm the theft.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/hack-of-opm-reportedly-exposed-second-set-of-much-more-sensitive-data/
But, of course, it's all Snowden's fault.
This hack went on for nearly a YEAR and they didn't catch it. Snowden is a drop in the bucket compared to this.
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/federal-agency-hit-by-chinese-hackers-around-4-million-employees-affected/
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-12/white-house-says-personnel-records-possibly-breached-twice
Edit to Add: Then there is this little gem
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)all the info needed to blackmail any security-cleared person, anytime
and thus the security state once again sows the seeds of its own undoing
figure this one out, where you now can't trust anybody who has gotten a security clearance, including the people making the hiring decisions
given the importance and impact of this release, question needs to be asked why it wasn't secured better
Aerows
(39,961 posts)This is a MASSIVE failure.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)I once was on a contract that required eventual security clearance - when I saw this form I quit. Lost a lot of money but I'm sure as hell glad I didn't fill it out.
Anyone know if elected representatives need to fill out this form? If so, um...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)If you've already told the government "I swear, under penalty of perjury, that I did drugs", then it's hard to argue you'd be terrified of people finding out you did drugs.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that your spouse did drugs, since they glean information from your cohabitants and your spouse isn't protected from losing their job if the information comes out, this is a treasure trove.
There is no way to make this insignificant. You can try, but really?
It isn't embarrassing for people to learn that you had to go to rehab or something at 19 for drug addiction? Or that your kid did?
Excuse me for vehemently stating "that doesn't fly".
Snowden had nothing to do with this.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)but as long as they can try to make him a scapegoat for their own incompetence, some "anonymous" official will still be attributing everything evil in this world.
The timing when the Snowden blaming started is interested, because the other report came out on Friday evening.
Nah, no coincidence there.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Very good info, mary.
Sorry to link on yours. I don't usually do that. Just pretty important and apropos
Aerows
(39,961 posts)The more people that discuss this, the better! Link anytime
marym625
(17,997 posts)And if you should want to, please feel free to do the same.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Wth has government IT been doing? Wtf good is our almighty, all spying surveillance agencies been doing besides spying on us?
How embarrassing.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Look at the last link that I added which explains how and why it was all so vulnerable.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Ipviking.com to be exact.
Even a box of rocks could see there's a warzone out in cyberland. Lots of hits to .gov and .mil and a dozen other interesting destinations. I'm sure the fed has even better ways to sniff and did almost nothing!
Disgusting. Incredible.
Absolute incompetence.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)If a nation wants your information, they will get it. They have the resources to develop attacks that will break any security you employ.
It used to be enough to have an "air gap" - if you don't connect your computers to the Internet, they can't be attacked. Then Stuxnet quite vividly showed that wasn't true.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)why they shouldn't have the information they have on the American public because they can't secure their own data, much less give a crap about everyone else.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The information they have on the American public is phone records. AT&T, Verizon and the rest are nowhere near as secure as the NSA. I would be astounded to discover other countries don't have the same records via hacking the phone companies.
For a variety of reasons, we're entering an "end of privacy" era. We're happily turning over our shopping history for convenience (Amazon) or a small discount (your grocery store) or the basic implementation of the service (phone records).
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Doesn't mean I am.
And to equate my grocery list with the information on Form 86 is so laughable, I don't know where to start.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)It's only filed by people seeking security clearances. As a result, it isn't the government gathering information on "All Americans" as you were talking about.
As for shopping history, it's an example. You are tracked, legally, with your permission, all the time.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Oh well, I feel much better that people in charge of secured information are the only people that can be blackmailed and the fact that I spent $5 for maxi-pads remains relatively secure.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Your maxi-pad purchases are utterly insecure. There have been many hacks of those systems.
As for blackmail, we are talking about people who have said "I swear, under penalty of perjury, that I did drugs" directly to the government. It's gonna be hard to blackmail them over drug use.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)do not know what information is revealed on Form 86. That's the only excuse I can come up with for you to make this argument.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Are you more comfortable with that information being in the hands of Chinese hackers than you are with Albertson's knowing what you bought last week, or hell anyone knowing what you bought all last year?
If so, you didn't fill out the same (exhaustive) form I did.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I also know China isn't going to be passing it around. They're going to use the data for spearphishing attacks. Leaking it to others makes it useless for that. And I can thwart spearphishing attacks.
OTOH, my supermarket card reveals my medical history. Along with what was stolen from my insurance with BC/BS. The supermarket card also reveals my location. Combine that with the data from my gas card, and now you get to track my travels. Tack on frequent flier miles, and you get my long-distance travels too. You also get all the data you are so upset about the NSA having from AT&T's data breaches. Target and Home Depot breaches also provide you with lots more data about what's in my home.
All of those systems were broken by unknown hackers. I don't know what they are trying to do with the data, and who they are selling the data to. And that very short list is just off the top of my head, and only over the last two years. And it's chock-full of personal information that could be used to hurt me in a wide variety of was.
So yeah, I'm much less concerned about China getting a copy of my SF-86's.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Geeez.......
Maybe we should give them some more money! That'll fix it!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I mean, come on, it keeps us safe.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Don't forget how limited they are to do anything.
Yes, clearly the less oversight, the better!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I submitted *less* information to obtain the large bond required to work in the financial securities industry with IT than will ever be required on an even mid-level Government security clearance.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I really appreciate that. From the bottom of my heart.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Remember all the pseudo Cold War brinksmanship over the Sony Hack incident a few months ago? The CIA, the FBI, and every other lettered agency was looking closely at Russia, China, and North Korea then. How come this hack wasn't revealed at that time?