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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 06:29 PM Jun 2015

The Sunday Times Snowden story increasingly seems like a big steaming pile......


.....(snip).....

On Thursday, David Anderson, the government’s reviewer of terrorism legislation, condemned snooping laws as “undemocratic, unnecessary and – in the long run – intolerable”, and called for a comprehensive new law incorporating judicial warrants – something for which my organisation, Liberty, has campaigned for many years. This thoughtful intervention brought new hope to us and others, for the rebuilding of public trust in surveillance conducted with respect for privacy, democracy and the law. And it was only possible thanks to Edward Snowden. Rumblings from No 10 immediately betrayed they were less than happy with many of Anderson’s recommendations – particularly his call for judicial oversight. And three days later, the empire strikes back! An exclusive story in the Sunday Times saying that MI6 “is believed” to have pulled out spies because Russia and China decoded Snowden’s files. The NSA whistleblower is now a man with “blood on his hands” according to one anonymous “senior Home Office official”.

Low on facts, high on assertions, this flimsy but impeccably timed story gives us a clear idea of where government spin will go in the coming weeks. It uses scare tactics to steer the debate away from Anderson’s considered recommendations – and starts setting the stage for the home secretary’s new investigatory powers bill. In his report, Anderson clearly states no operational case had yet been made for the snooper’s charter. So it is easy to see why the government isn’t keen on people paying too close attention to it. ...............(more)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/14/edward-snowden-hero-government-scare-tactics




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The Sunday Times Snowden story increasingly seems like a big steaming pile...... (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
They did the same thing to Smedley Butler . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #1
That the government would fear judicial oversight on these issues is why judicial oversight was put in the Constitution. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #2
Yes, but what's your point? nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #4
From minute one. n/t Wilms Jun 2015 #3
true that. marmar Jun 2015 #9
does "to make an omelet...." stupidicus Jun 2015 #5
The information relating to Snowden is The Wizard Jun 2015 #6
Dicrediting anyone who exposes them, and MSM helps . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #7
of course! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #8

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. That the government would fear judicial oversight on these issues is why judicial oversight was put in the Constitution.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 06:57 PM
Jun 2015
 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
5. does "to make an omelet...."
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jun 2015

have an application here?

and who's responsible for those losses if they occur?

This is similar to but not to be confused with some of the BS rightwingers are spewing over the police abuses.

and the price of inaction in both cases exceeds that of any actions taken as remedies

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
6. The information relating to Snowden is
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jun 2015

top secret and not for consumption by the public. That they leaked it demonstrates there is something else on the government's agenda.

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