"No, I won't condemn anyone for putting ketchup on a hot dog. This is the land of the free. And if someone wants to put ketchup on a hot dog and actually eat the awful thing, that is their right.

"It is also their right to put mayo or chocolate syrup or toenail clippings or cat hair on a hot dog.

"Sure, it would be disgusting and perverted, and they would be shaming themselves and their loved ones. But under our system of government, it is their right to be barbarians."

— Mike Royko, Chicago Tribune, Nov. 21, 1995

Mustard and onions, yes. Ketchup never.

Maybe a bit of relish...if it's nice, fresh stuff.

Relish was it - real relish, not the fluorescent green kind.

so I can put the idea of someone eating a hot dog with ketchup out of my mind.

I like the spicy, whole grain German mustard myself.

but honestly? I'm pedestrian on a hot dog. Give me the bright yellow friend I've always had on hot dogs. And I won't turn onions away, either .

Going to a Timbers 2 match (Timbers' second division USL Pro soccer team) this evening, and I'll make it a point to have a "proper" hot dog at the game: mustard, sauteed onions, fresh relish). Regular diced onions are okay by me, but the sauteed ones they offer really add something!

of hot dog lovers everywhere and eye those who use ketchup to desecrate their dogs with great disdain and a face mirroring our collective disgust.

Neon green is where it is at.


Chicago does have the best hot dogs. New York has the best pizza.

It is known.

Mustard, onion, and a carload of relish.

That is pretty much a hot dog standard to uphold.

and celery salt.

And I agree re: Chicago and NYC's specialties.

folks aren't fools. They know how to eat a hot dog, too.

Next year when I am in town for the Cup, I look forward to Juicy Lucys...however it is spelled.

but Matt's is the best, and the inventor of the Jucy Lucy. Watch out for molten cheese, though, as it is SERIOUSLY hot. A cold Grain Belt is the preferred accompaniment.

And so nice about it. So Minnesota.

Garrison Keillor isn't kidding. We really are like that.

+ infinity

Ketchup on a hotdog? WTF?

It's OK If You're An Adult Who Routinely Wears Bowties.

I just got done serving up hot dogs at a bbq for 90 teenagers last week...and watching them drown those dogs in ketchup, and, even worse, mayo.

Mustard and onions...yes. Add chili and cheese..okay, sometimes. But ketchup...

Damn near croaked the first time that was served to me!

I have to tell them every time I get a burger to leave the mayo off.

and a bit of cream cheese.

:shudder:

He not only writes disgustingly, he eats nasty, nasty things.

Ketchup on a hot dog!?

You *HAVE* to be kidding me.

Sometimes I don't put anything on them at ALL!

Mustard? That's an ingredient in potato salad. Relish? You can take all the relish in the world, mix it with all the coleslaw in the world, and... well I don't care what you do with it. Just keep it away from me.

I even like the Cubbies. What does THAT say about me. Eternal optimist?

This spicy sweet jalapeno relish is delicious on a hotdog or in deviled eggs.

http://www.ragincajunfoods.com/relishes_garnish.htm

With his patrician Yankee looks I'd expect him to eat it with a fork and knife, topping each slice with a dollop of mayo.

she doesn't like mustard or ketchup

I think that train has left the station

And chopped onions, if they are available.
But I rarely eat hot dogs.

It was only after I was in my 20's that someone suggested this was 'inappropriate' for a Cubs fan.

Judge me all you want, but I will continue to put ketchup on my damn hot dog. LOL

And by the way, fuck him.

Oh, you already said that.

Did he actually say that anything other than ketchup would be radical? I couldn't get the video to play.

which is a sort of depth to what's being tasted.

I find that especially true with homemade tomato catsup from vine ripe tomatoes made with balsamic, rather than cider vinegar.

"I'm not George Will."

...might not be the best thing to hear during that? Celibacy would be preferable to sex with George Will.

or for the Texas twist I'll use barbecue sauce if the hot dogs are barbecued.

but they're all children who are conspicuously fussy and picky.

some people find too many things to get upset about.

The best hot dog without question is a Michigan Coney. Natural casing Koegels brand hot dog with chili, mustard and onions.

There is some dispute over the best chili; some favor the meatier Jackson/Flint variety over the more runny Detroit style. (I prefer Detroit)

In the metro Detroit area, there is a coney restaurant on nearly every block with many owned by Greek families

Pop quiz subject: Suburban Chain Coneys

Which is best, National Coney, Leo's, or Kerby's?

For non chain, my personal favorite is the ice cream stand in downtown Auburn Hills. Followed by a Cherry Amaretto cone or shake.

Grew up near Pontiac, Waterford, and Rochester areas, but moved out to the Irish Hills 20 years ago.

Don't eat at the suburban Coney chains any more, but my current favorite is "Sparty's" in East Lansing. You can choose either "Detroit" or "Flint" style chili> FYI, Detroit all the way for me!

Rather interestingly, there is some dispute over whether the Coney was invented in Jackson or Detroit. Being near Jackson now, I hear their side of the story and they have evidence that it may be correct. Unfortunately, the Jackson Coney uses chili like they do in Flint, and since I prefer Detroit style, I don't eat them there.

Lipuma's in downtown Rochester is pretty darn good. Great thing for me is that the place is pretty much the same as it was when I went to HS in the mid 70's.

I'll have to give Lipuma's a try for my weekly coney some time.

Thanks for the tip.

He is so dry that when I opened the Sunday paper today it was entirely wet from an early-morning downpour EXCEPT for the editorial page containing Will's column -which was completely dry. Amazing.

Kimchi instead of sauerkraut The Koreans for the win on fermented cabbage.

Or the Japadog version

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...but not as a ballpark dog. Just can't get over that mental speed bump.

On edit: $%^$#%%^ autocorrect. "bulgogi"

shark fin soup

I'll trust the Chinese and Koreans with a cabbage tho

At Tiger Stadium in Detroit, and at Briggs Stadium before it -- the same stadium, just a different name -- what Will calls a hot dog was called a Red Hot. "Get yer Red Hots!" the vendor in the stands would chant. As any respectable baseball fan, and every single Tiger fan for many decades understands, a Red Hot comes with your choice of condiments, mustard and/or onions. If you ask for ketchup, or horrors relish, the vendor is going to chew you out and describe curtly how you can get wimpy ketchup at the concession under the stands. Meanwhile, "Get yer Red Hots!" It was a high volume enterprise and no self respecting Tiger fan would ask for wimpy ketchup on a hotdog, at least not from the Red Hot vendor walking up and down the stands.

And by the way, no hot dog has ketchup, George. You don't know anything more about baseball than you do about anything else, do you?

Fucking idiot!

I suppose they could -- they get whatever they tell the catering service to provide.

I suspect Mr. Will has lobster-roll dogs.... With ketchup.

but they call them "frankfurters". Srsly.

I might freak out if it turns out to be real. Then hunt it down to try it, but freak out nonetheless.

No lobster rolls out here. The crustacean of choice hereabouts is Dungeness crab.

"Frankfurter" is no problem. Been interchangeable with "hot dog" since one or the other was coined.

Downside to that: we still have George Will.

Too low-class for Niners season-ticket holders.

How on earth do we have a thread that goes on for over 80 posts, involves George Will and ballpark dogs, and NO ONE makes a wiener joke?

The fabric of space-time is fraying again...

Onions all the way! Chili if I'm in the mood.

or if not losing their power they feel the schmucks coming and they dont like it

we are the schmucks, by the way

That's blasphemy of the highest order!

fortunately several people stepped up and saved this thread for me by mentioning sauerkraut

Ketchup earns you a beat down

F'realz... We all in the area gotta rise above that shit, whether the rest of the world recognizes it or not.

onions and/or jalapenos (or sport peppers)....even better, I'll take some Chili Garlic sauce.

And I agree, fuck George Will!