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Ritchie Rich i$ the one who benefit$ the mo$t from war. Let him pay for it!

Pay up, Deadbeat!



Fuck you, America! It never was about "spreading democracy!" Hahaha!!!

OH HELL YESSSSSSS!

(anyone still using that?)

... and I've mentioned to others in group meetings recently too. I put it in the post I had right at the beginning of his campaign of us proposing a platform for him. Look at item #6 on this post here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12777539

I wonder if word filtered up, or if there are many of us out there that just have like minds.

I was thinking of earlier not just having a higher top marginal tax rate, but having a portion of that be the war tax, as long as we have some measurable criteria of our country being in a state of war.

Would serve as an incentive to pull back on funding the military industrial complex!

Good to see Bernie jumping on this! I love it!

I don't obkject to maying more in taxes, but constantly calling for new taxes for different improvements is a bad way to build support. Better to come up with ONE tax plan that covers everything.

have been proposing since we were lied into this horrendous wars, so it's no like it's a new idea for Progressive Dems.

And every Republican millionaire who votes for WAR and WAR FUNDING would have to help PAY for it.

They borrowed from OUR SS fund, then tried to get out of paying it back.

I'm for making those who support war, go fight in them AND pay for them.

In fact I would go much further than Bernie. I would give Tax Breaks to those who do NOT support war.

But then I'm radical when it comes to these republican policies Dems have been supporting, Bernie is way more mainstream than I am on these things.

I wonder how that would work out? I'd love it.

part of discussions back during the Bush regime. People were so outraged that their tax dollars were going to war profiteers they did talk about a system where if you didn't support something like that, you didn't have to pay for it.

But Bernie is at least highlighting the problem, forcing a discussion about something they don't us thinking about.

THIS is why he is so popular, he is saying the things ordinary people were saying, but they had no one in power to speak for them.

NOW there is someone, and he seems to be covering everything people wanted to see a conversation about.

Debt is paid off. Now taking into account that you are talking trillions of dollars, it could take 30 years.

And i must say, we are all aware of your personal wealth. My mother (a terrible snob, but definitely a classic grand dame who never boasted about monwy) would have had some advice in that regard.

With the 1% maybe.....

always win. It's way past time to play the billionaires game of status quo. If you want to see more of our children living in poverty, then support Goldman-Sachs and the status quo.

"Is that the same Millionaire Tax he wanted to use for free College tuition?"

No. The tuition plan will cover tuition costs by initiating a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. A .5% speculation fee will be charged on investment houses, hedge funds, and other stock trades. Additionally, a .1% fee will be charged on bonds, and a .005% fee will be charged on derivatives as opposed to the wholly separate "millionaires tax" to finance U.S. military operations.

The latter is being done in the here and now, while the former is simply a plank proposal.

others to be added later.

96 billion dollars is obscene.

opposed that abominable war.

AND yes, double it or triple it on those who profit from the war.

AND I would go further, IF you are profiting from a war, YOU must go fight in it, don't care how old you are, Vietnam Vets were in Iraq.

So off they go to war since they're so fond of it, AND they get to pay for it also.

However, since Bernie is way more mainstream than I am, I'll take his proposal as a start.

Because a lot of other people are gonna go and die and get their legs blown off for something the rich guy wants.

I've been calling for the "YOU FIRST" approach to the chickenhawks for a long time. You want the war so bad, bill kristol, then YOU - and YOUR KIDS are the ones who should go get some. YOU FIRST. YOU FIRST george will. YOU FIRST lindsey graham. YOU FIRST john mccain - even though you already fought. You're rattling sabers for it again, so go knock yerself out. YOU FIRST jeb bush. I'd even say that to Hillary. I'd say it to everybody and anybody who either advocates or agitates or refuses to rule out another war. And that goes double for all the hate radio crowd. You advocate for war? Then YOU. To the FRONT OF THE LINE with YOU. Get some skin in the game for a change. And everyone in the military contractors businesses. AND cheney. Drag him outta his fancy-ass home and his well-padded and probably expensive comfy chair and slap an Army uniform on him and SEND HIM OUT TO THE BATTLEFIELD. So he can get his war on, FIRST hand.

YOU FIRST!!!

I love it. After you, m'lord.....

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"let you and him go fight the war."

you can't accept any financial assistance from family members and your bank balance has to be near the flashing red level

And yeah, I have a family member who has to deal with this situation.

#feeling the berm is all about, isn't it.

Bernie is the man who will be our next POYUS and for reasons like what is said in this OP

Then it makes sense that they should also have to pay proportionally for the things that their government does. In the case of the last Bush, the corps wanted war with Iraq to get money in defense contracts, plus getting access to the Iraqi oil fields. It then makes sense that they should bear the brunt of the costs of that war. The argument extends to other government "functions."

This would reinstate the feedback loop where the people and corporations in control of government (through campaign donations) would be affected by the negative - financially - aspects of what they supported. They will be less likely to support such wars in the future.

Not rhetoric...action...and he has been doing this his entire career...

and NOT ONE has even yet to volunteer for military service. And he even said he and they "served." In the Private Sector.

with NO exemptions for being rich and privileged.

the rich and privileged would get desk jobs, officer commissions, and stateside assignments, just like the last time.

TPP response from Hillary on Bernie"s War Tax?

issues, his grasp of the facts, which enables him to 'tell a story' to his audience. I saw people yell and clap at various points while he was speaking, and at least two standing ovations which were loud and raucous, the excitement at hearing someone speaking FOR them after so long, was palpable in the air.

His standing ovations came when he spoke about his support for Single Payer. People leaped to their feet, whistling, clapping and shouting their agreement. The other when he spoke about Race issues.

After over an hour long talk, he took over 30 minutes of questions from the audience. He seems to LOVE these question periods. Answering every one with honesty and without hesitation.

I contrasted his speeches with Hillary's and the truth is, she had to read from her notes, indicating she doesn't speak from the heart, as he does. I have not seen her hold an open question and answer session and can't imagine it frankly.

In a debate, he would win hands down. And that is just a fact.

He would also wipe the floor with every single candidate on the Republican side and probable convert even some Republicans.

HE is clear on the TPP. She is too, though she is trying to hide her position due to the massive opposition to the position she has held and clearly still does.

On this proposal from Bernie, I have no idea where she would stand. And I doubt we ever will.

long before I dreamed Sanders or anyone like him would run for President. We had a war tax to fund WWII and rightfully so.


To me, blood is infinitely more important than treasure, but both are important. We are visiting our debts on future generations, even as we visit our environmental sins on them.

Since Vietnam, we've eliminated the draft and all but eliminated war news coverage. We've made war all but invisible to the general public, with government carefully managing news of it. Instead of serving their function as watch dogs of government, corporate media allows government to manage news and enables its selling of wars to the public. We also raid Social Security to pay for wars, which is extremely unfair to elders and the disabled.

A war tax would ameliorate both the ability of the public to ignore war and the debts we run up because of wars and I could not agree more with it.

something Bernie has also said about Republicans, with no consequences whatsoever. I hope that Bernie speaking out about all these things will finally give others the backbone to do the same.

This story is three months old. I wonder what happened to the amendment? I suspect we would have heard about it had it passed. Still a good idea.

donors.

How many people knew of all the work Bernie sanders has done over the years to TRY to fight the crooked system he had to face as an elected official BEFORE he became a candidate?

Few people were allowed to hear about those, like Bernie, who struggled to get their colleagues to join them in doing something to halt the greed and corruption. But he never stopped trying, many people would have given up long ago.

However now that he IS a candidate, and this may be one of the reasons WHY he chose to run, far more attention is being given to his proposals.

THIS is an idea that was put forward years ago by Progressives, to no avail of course as they were ignored.

So it's important to get ALL of Bernie's great ideas out for the PUBLIC to decide whether or not they are worthwhile.

Doesn't matter if he made the proposal three months ago. NOW people are paying attention.

Sanders called it a 'disaster for working people'. It includes major cuts to HC eg. It would be a ten year proposition.

I doubt Bernie expected his amendment to go anywhere considering that Republicans control the House and Senate.

However, he is right to keep putting forth legislation that benefits the people.

Since he was barely known to the public just a few months ago, his proposal received little attention.

But the more people KNOW about those who are trying to stop the Republicans from cutting benefits, cutting HC, cutting EVERYTHING while rewarding their billionaire buddies with more tax cuts, also in the proposed budget, the better.

I think every attempt by any Democrat to start holding them accountable 'they get away with murder' Bernie says, SHOULD be made as public as possible.

This proposal is like to have lots of support, not just from Democrats, IF people know about it.

And now is the time to do it, since Bernie's name recognition is growing and people ARE interested in his record.

I haven't found anything about the amendment part of the Budget so far.

a profit off of it.

They stole and wasted the money and want us to pay.

Let it apply to everyone!

Make all Americans feel the pain.

Once average Americans see Uncle Sam taking extra money from their paychecks to pay for war, there will be more opposition.

... when WE are targeted to pay all of the taxes that they should be paying for way too long. This is a way to get back what has been stolen from us for decades now.

They are the ones that currently push congress people to vote in certain ways. If we push the money people, that is all that is needed with our current system where so many of our pols don't listen to the pain of the rest of us Americans feel anyway.

Ultimately if you make it an accross the board tax, they'll find some way to get them at tax loophole to get themselves out of paying it like they do everything else, and we'll wind up paying this tax just ourselves like so many other taxes are taxed today.

break to those who don't.

They were claiming that 70% of the public supported the illegal war in Iraq.

Those numbers would drop pretty quickly if they had to pay for it imo.

However, I believe Bernie is making a point here, to tax everyone wouldn't go over too well, but taxing those who profit from it, buy stock in the war machine eg, that is more popular.

This is such a great idea and should have been done all along. He sooo gets it.

have felt or proposed that there should be a “War Tax” on the wealthy, or wealth. My feeling is that it should be progressive in some way, and significant in its costs. I propose this mostly because it’s a way of “Calling Out” those that are so eager to go to war. After all, if we are in such “Mortal Danger” and Iraq/Syria/Iran/Ukraine are so vitally important then the tax should be a reasonable cost for those at the top.

That and the War Mongers should be putting their kids on the front lines. Not just poor kids like my wife’s best friend’s daughter’s boyfriend who feels joining the Army is his best option at the moment.

Glad to hear Bernie is getting the idea out there.

We need Bernie badly.

Bernie has changed the direction of this next election.

corporate funded candidates fight it out for the top job. Now what to do? He is demanding that they hold debates so that the public gets to LEARN what they all stand for.

So far, not one has been willing to debate him.

That alone tells you that he was not supposed to be running for the WH thinking we still live in a democracy.

He nees to introduce some measures dealing, with police brutality, the drug war, and measures to reduce the percentate of poor, minority and mentally ill people in Prison. That will appeal to civil libertarians and civil rights activists.